Blowout member chainsaw has buyer's remorse and is now making up stuff to return luka - Page 4

Mountaineer · 03-06-2019, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Even after he left feedback ?

My goodness I’m done selling cards

Based on most of your responses in this thread and your actions, you should definitely give up selling cards or let someone else do it for you. I'm surprised that Houdini allowed your negative to stand but that is his decision. And any smart member here would most likely avoid dealing with you in the future.

prospects · 03-06-2019, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer

Based on most of your responses in this thread and your actions, you should definitely give up selling cards or let someone else do it for you. I'm surprised that Houdini allowed your negative to stand but that is his decision. And any smart member here would most likely avoid dealing with you in the future.

Go kick rocks zero feedbacker. You are of no interest to me.

shrevecity · 03-06-2019, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Go kick rocks zero feedbacker. You are of no interest to me.

What does itrader have to do with anything? Whem members start using that as an epeen it usually does not end well for them

TMILL · 03-06-2019, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Go kick rocks zero feedbacker. You are of no interest to me.

smh the lack of professionalism

LALeakers · 03-06-2019, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Go kick rocks zero feedbacker. You are of no interest to me.

I will be stunned if you are over the age of 15.

oldgoldy97 · 03-06-2019, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LALeakers

I will be stunned if you are over the age of 15.

My 15 year old is insulted.

chezball · 03-06-2019, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Even after he left feedback ?

My goodness I’m done selling cards

So does this mean you won't be looking for table space at the National?

Mountaineer · 03-06-2019, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

So does this mean you won't be looking for table space at the National?

Hopefully he didn't quit his day job after reading this thread.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1275042

GeechQuest · 03-06-2019, 11:42 PM

Is it just me or does prospects give off a Myers vibe? Is Prospects just Myers’ burner account so that they can post in this section...???

cking · 03-07-2019, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer

I'm surprised that Houdini allowed your negative to stand but that is his decision.

Why would you think chainsaw does not deserve a negative for what he did?

He completly deserved it.

Mountaineer · 03-07-2019, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cking

Why would you think chainsaw does not deserve a negative for what he did?

He completly deserved it.

The card was not in the condition that the seller described it as. Both were at fault in various ways throughout the ordeal. Hence, why a neutral should have been given and not a negative since the money and cards got returned.

cking · 03-07-2019, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer

The card was not in the condition that the seller described it as. Both were at fault in various ways throughout the ordeal. Hence, why a neutral should have been given and not a negative since the money and cards got returned.

The buyer left positive feeback saying he was happy with the transaction.

He asked for a refund AFTER.

If the card was not in good condition why did he leave a positive?

Mountaineer · 03-07-2019, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cking

The buyer left positive feeback saying he was happy with the transaction.

He asked for a refund AFTER.

If the card was not in good condition why did he leave a positive?

According to the buyer, he was busy with work and left feedback and did not even look the card over good. There is plenty of members here and over plenty of forums that leave positive feedback upon receiving payment or paying for the card and this is all in good faith most of the time. Should the buyer have left such quick feedback, no. He has even admitted to this. However, if you receive your card and you're traveling or busy with work, I can see where you just don't have the time to thoroughly look the card over after the seller promised that the card was perfect. As I said, the buyer messed up leaving feedback so early without thorough looking. The seller was wrong by not accurately describing the condition.

If you sell a raw card, your best bet is to undershoot the condition instead of overshooting and trying to say it looks "perfect" or even "gem". You're just begging to have a card returned based on condition when you overshoot. The card in question would not be graded a "9" as you mentioned before in an earlier post, especially just based on that corner.

Both parties come out bad in this deal, however the buyer seems to have stated his story and accepted his mistakes without going on rants like the seller did, which if he is going to try and play at the big boy table of selling cards as a business, he needs to learn how the business is ran, understand that returns do happen and not all of them are based on the current market value of a certain card, and and invest in a better camera to highlight the cards condition. His comments in this thread and others about his "start-up business" are childish in many ways. Which one of the two handled the situation like a man and which one acted like a child?

shrevecity · 03-07-2019, 06:27 AM

I think the neg was justified, but the seller came out far worse than the buyer did. And frankly I do not think from what I can see that the card is as the seller described it. That one corner looks pretty bad and the seller admits there is a flaw on the back that you cannot see that the buyer was not concerned with either. The flaw the buyer was concerned with has not really been shown in photos yet. Without holding the card in hand ourselves we can never really perceive how bad it is.

The buyer should have held off on feedback until he could examine the card more, but the buyer has handled this way more maturely.

prospects · 03-07-2019, 07:14 AM

Except for the fact that the card was sold at $650 when the one before that sold at 880 lol.

And no, The back corner was not bad. And it was not like that when I shipped it

prospects · 03-07-2019, 07:17 AM

Let’s all ignore that Lukas prices are in free fall and conveniently lets return this card because of “damage”

shrevecity · 03-07-2019, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Let’s all ignore that Lukas prices are in free fall and conveniently lets return this card because of “damage”

What would be best for you now would be to move on. Returns are a fact of life when selling online. Your respones are hurting you more than anything

shrevecity · 03-07-2019, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Except for the fact that the card was sold at $650 when the one before that sold at 880 lol.

And no, The back corner was not bad. And it was not like that when I shipped it

Now all the sudden the buyer caused it. You sai the only flaw when you got it bac was on the back. Why no mention of the corner being worse?

tier1dc · 03-07-2019, 10:01 AM

glen87 · 03-07-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer

According to the buyer, he was busy with work and left feedback and did not even look the card over good. There is plenty of members here and over plenty of forums that leave positive feedback upon receiving payment or paying for the card and this is all in good faith most of the time. Should the buyer have left such quick feedback, no. He has even admitted to this. However, if you receive your card and you're traveling or busy with work, I can see where you just don't have the time to thoroughly look the card over after the seller promised that the card was perfect. As I said, the buyer messed up leaving feedback so early without thorough looking. The seller was wrong by not accurately describing the condition.

If you sell a raw card, your best bet is to undershoot the condition instead of overshooting and trying to say it looks "perfect" or even "gem". You're just begging to have a card returned based on condition when you overshoot. The card in question would not be graded a "9" as you mentioned before in an earlier post, especially just based on that corner.

Both parties come out bad in this deal, however the buyer seems to have stated his story and accepted his mistakes without going on rants like the seller did, which if he is going to try and play at the big boy table of selling cards as a business, he needs to learn how the business is ran, understand that returns do happen and not all of them are based on the current market value of a certain card, and and invest in a better camera to highlight the cards condition. His comments in this thread and others about his "start-up business" are childish in many ways. Which one of the two handled the situation like a man and which one acted like a child?

whose fault is that???

then don't leave FB until you have a chance to look it over better

neg 100% deserved.

Cubsfanp · 03-07-2019, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by glen87

whose fault is that???

then don't leave FB until you have a chance to look it over better

neg 100% deserved.

Yep. Neg is deserved, and the buyer has even accepted as much.

Seller doesnt deserve a neg...but i think there is a BIG one in the minds of anyone viewing the posts and threads.

prospects · 03-07-2019, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

Now all the sudden the buyer caused it. You sai the only flaw when you got it bac was on the back. Why no mention of the corner being worse?

I don’t understand the question honestly.

prospects · 03-07-2019, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

Now all the sudden the buyer caused it. You sai the only flaw when you got it bac was on the back. Why no mention of the corner being worse?

The corner is on the back.

shrevecity · 03-07-2019, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by prospects

The corner is on the back.

You said the damage on the back was barely noticeable. That corner sticks out and is very noticable.

tonedef2oo8 · 03-07-2019, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Go kick rocks zero feedbacker. You are of no interest to me.

Mostly scammers or people on the road to being banned say this. We can all hope can’t we?

03-06-2019, 11:42 PM	#84
GeechQuest Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 10,779 GeechQuest	Is it just me or does prospects give off a Myers vibe? Is Prospects just Myers’ burner account so that they can post in this section...???

03-07-2019, 06:27 AM	#89
shrevecity Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28,059	I think the neg was justified, but the seller came out far worse than the buyer did. And frankly I do not think from what I can see that the card is as the seller described it. That one corner looks pretty bad and the seller admits there is a flaw on the back that you cannot see that the buyer was not concerned with either. The flaw the buyer was concerned with has not really been shown in photos yet. Without holding the card in hand ourselves we can never really perceive how bad it is. The buyer should have held off on feedback until he could examine the card more, but the buyer has handled this way more maturely.

03-07-2019, 07:14 AM	#90
prospects Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,059	Except for the fact that the card was sold at $650 when the one before that sold at 880 lol. And no, The back corner was not bad. And it was not like that when I shipped it

03-07-2019, 07:17 AM	#91
prospects Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,059	Let’s all ignore that Lukas prices are in free fall and conveniently lets return this card because of “damage”

03-07-2019, 10:01 AM	#94
tier1dc Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 5,541