First Buzz: 2019 Topps Stranger Things Season 2 - Page 4

deeceman · 07-10-2019, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

What a shame Topps got this license. Season 3 has been terrific.

Who would you have rather got the license and why keeping in mind track record at getting autos and screen worn relics and pulling off a retro design. I of course would have loved to see Topps get more of the cast to sign but I’d like to hear your thoughts and reasoning.

dd316 · 07-10-2019, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DrGhostbuster

For week #2 I recognize Rambo, Goonies, and I believe New Kids on the Block.

What are the other two?

I think the Will Byers is a Hockey design... whatever the year was with Lemieux's RC. Ted Wheeler may be from Cyndi Lauper?

dd316 · 07-10-2019, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by deeceman

Who would you have rather got the license and why keeping in mind track record at getting autos and screen worn relics and pulling off a retro design. I of course would have loved to see Topps get more of the cast to sign but I’d like to hear your thoughts and reasoning.

Because of *insert failed set here*. I think these cards look great, but I get that the value at release price hasn't been there. But hey, if people keep buying... (we all know this story)

I spoke to George from Cryptozoic years ago about the Stranger Things license, he said they tried but Netflix had no interest in doing trading cards. Fast forward a bit and Topps announced the first set. Not sure what transpired within that year.

ForceChange77 · 07-10-2019, 10:29 AM

Wasn't a big fan of Season 2, but I am enjoying Season 3 quite a bit.

KhalDrogo · 07-10-2019, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by deeceman

Who would you have rather got the license and why keeping in mind track record at getting autos and screen worn relics and pulling off a retro design. I of course would have loved to see Topps get more of the cast to sign but I’d like to hear your thoughts and reasoning.

Literally anybody but Topps. Upper Deck, Cryptozoic, Rittenhouse, whoever. Topps did such a bad job with the Season 1 release that it destroyed any future potential for the product line.

quincy · 07-10-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Literally anybody but Topps. Upper Deck, Cryptozoic, Rittenhouse, whoever. Topps did such a bad job with the Season 1 release that it destroyed any future potential for the product line.

I hear you, but I don't think the earth is quite as scorched as all that. If we're voting, Rittenhouse. They seem to have a facility to get signings lacking by every other manufacturer.

deeceman · 07-10-2019, 11:20 AM

To me, every rittenhouse release looks the same and I do t think they would have gotten the retro look and feel right. Their x-files product was a complete travesty too although many of the others have been thorough if not so visually exciting. Upper Deck makes some great looking cards from a tech standpoint but often is hard pressed to get many of the major signers. I would not have minded if Cryptozoic got a shot at it. It would be awesome to get Winona Ryder, Matthew Modine, Sean Astin, Paul Reiser, John Reynolds, Finn Wolfhard, Caleb McLaughlin, Charlie Heaton, Natalia Dyer, Dacre Montgomery, Shannon Purser and Maya Hawke to sign.

Findingtime · 07-10-2019, 11:37 AM

I wish Crypto or Rittenhouse got the license. Rittenhouse did a nice job on the vintage stock Twin Peaks cards IMO.

I love the show but have no interest in these sets. I prefer on card autos and MBB a sticker ruined it for me personally.

Topps will likely release too much of it too quick and kill what market there is.

dd316 · 07-10-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by deeceman

Upper Deck makes some great looking cards from a tech standpoint but often is hard pressed to get many of the major signers.

They have gotten almost every major Marvel superhero actor to sign at least once. With a few exceptions, I think they generally have good signers. They may not be in huge quantities, but they do get them.

KhalDrogo · 07-10-2019, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Findingtime

I wish Crypto or Rittenhouse got the license. Rittenhouse did a nice job on the vintage stock Twin Peaks cards IMO.

I love the show but have no interest in these sets. I prefer on card autos and MBB a sticker ruined it for me personally.

Topps will likely release too much of it too quick and kill what market there is.

Three sets in the span of one year.

Topps destroyed the value of the product line with the Season 1 release. They did absolutely nothing right.

deeceman · 07-10-2019, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Three sets in the span of one year.

Topps destroyed the value of the product line with the Season 1 release. They did absolutely nothing right.

I respectfully disagree. You had a bad experience with the retail debacle. Design wise it’s straight out of 1983, well written base, great parallels and they did get some real costumes and some major cast to sign. Not perfect by any stretch but I certainly don’t feel like they got absolutely nothing right.

KhalDrogo · 07-10-2019, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by deeceman

I respectfully disagree. You had a bad experience with the retail debacle. Design wise it’s straight out of 1983, well written base, great parallels and they did get some real costumes and some major cast to sign. Not perfect by any stretch but I certainly don’t feel like they got absolutely nothing right.

Yes, the retail issue was a bummer. Let’s not forget the other issues.

- Hobby was inexplicably delayed until after retail.
- Dual autos weren’t made.
- Vast majority of the autos in each case were from minor characters with many duplicates.
- Split of sticker and on-card autos, with the biggest name being a sticker auto.
- Too many redemptions (Dustin hasn’t even signed yet).
- Way too many low end sketches and worthless manufactured relics.
- Three insert sets completely devoid of any thought or effort.

If Rittenhouse had the license, none of this would have happened. The drop off in group breaks from season 1 to 2 tells you how people felt about the product. Pretty sure we did 9-10 cases of season 1 between Ian and houdini, and just one case of season 2.

dd316 · 07-10-2019, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

If Rittenhouse had the license, none of this would have happened.

You're right - the Millie Bobbie Brown autos would've only been available as a 10-case incentive.

Findingtime · 07-10-2019, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dd316

You're right - the Millie Bobbie Brown autos would've only been available as a 10-case incentive.

I'd rather have that than a sp sticker.

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dd316 · 07-10-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Findingtime

I'd rather have that than a sp sticker.

Yeechhh. As much as Rittenhouse does right, I absolutely hate that they make the best autos available as incentives.

Findingtime · 07-10-2019, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dd316

Yeechhh. As much as Rittenhouse does right, I absolutely hate that they make the best autos available as incentives.

Generally, the incentives aren't the best autos available IMO.

They use a lot of duals but usually the single main cast is case inserted.

I wish all the incentives were case inserted too, but it is what it is. I'm more concerned with all of the cut autos they have been doing lately and printing extra cases for "special" clients. I hope they got this out of their system with Inflexions.

jdandns · 07-10-2019, 09:29 PM

Blaster incentives:

Week 1
Scott Clarke is "Cyndi Lauper"
Billy is "Duran Duran" (sticker)
Mike is 1985 Topps Football
Max is 1985 Topps USFL
Lucas is Rocky IV

Week 2
Karen is "Duran Duran" (sticker)
Hopper is "Goonies"
Will Byers is 1985-86 Topps Hockey
Ted Wheeler is "Cyndi Lauper" (sticker)
Erica is "Rambo: First Blood Part 2" (sticker)

DrGhostbuster · 07-16-2019, 12:12 PM

Wow! a Huge Jump in numbers for Week #2: "Print Run: 325"

That almost doubles the print run of 174 for the first week.

dd316 · 07-16-2019, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrGhostbuster

Wow! a Huge Jump in numbers for Week #2: "Print Run: 325"

That almost doubles the print run of 174 for the first week.

People must've seen the low number for week one and figured to cash in.

jdandns · 07-17-2019, 06:55 PM

Blaster incentive templates (continued):

Week 3
Jonathan Byers is Rocky IV
Nancy Wheeler is 1985 Topps Football
Demogorgon "Goonies"
Steve Harrington is 1985 Topps USFL
Barb Holland is 1985 Topps Baseball

Week 4 probables:
Joyce Byers
Eleven
Dustin Henderson
Dr. Sam Owen (Paul Reiser)
Bob Newby (Should be a "Goonies" design since Astin was in that movie)

DrGhostbuster · 07-22-2019, 02:38 PM

According to tracking, should have my week 1 order Wednesday.

I did not even know season 2 had a retail release until this promotion. All the places that carried season 1 blasters like Target & Wal-Mart never carried these season 2 blasters in my area.

DrGhostbuster · 07-23-2019, 12:43 PM

Week 1 Print Run: 174

Week 2 Print Run: 325

Week 3 Print Run: 200

...very lopsided week 2 purchases

DrGhostbuster · 07-23-2019, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

Week 4 probables:
Joyce Byers
Eleven
Dustin Henderson
Dr. Sam Owen (Paul Reiser)
Bob Newby (Should be a "Goonies" design since Astin was in that movie)

It is just the main 5 kids for the final week. You were at least 2/5 on guesses.

I loved your idea of a Bob Newby Goonies card, what an incredible missed opportunity. I wonder if this idea was even discussed at Topps.

DrGhostbuster · 07-23-2019, 02:08 PM

Ok, I virtually never tweet. I only ever created a account to enter some Funko contest years ago, but I had to send this to Topps. I hope I did it correctly.

"@Topps Why was this card never included in your @Stranger_Things
Online Exclusive Set? Where is the Goonies love? #gooniesneversaydie"

https://twitter.com/DrGhostbuster_/s...41201410891777

deeceman · 07-23-2019, 04:33 PM

I don't know how to tweet either but I wish a bunch of people would tweet at Topps wondering where the heck the Gaten Matarazzo auto cards are at!

07-10-2019, 11:37 AM	#83
Findingtime Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: The Woods Posts: 2,552	I wish Crypto or Rittenhouse got the license. Rittenhouse did a nice job on the vintage stock Twin Peaks cards IMO. I love the show but have no interest in these sets. I prefer on card autos and MBB a sticker ruined it for me personally. Topps will likely release too much of it too quick and kill what market there is. Last edited by Findingtime; 07-10-2019 at 11:41 AM.

07-10-2019, 09:29 PM	#92
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 23,326	Blaster incentives: Week 1 Scott Clarke is "Cyndi Lauper" Billy is "Duran Duran" (sticker) Mike is 1985 Topps Football Max is 1985 Topps USFL Lucas is Rocky IV Week 2 Karen is "Duran Duran" (sticker) Hopper is "Goonies" Will Byers is 1985-86 Topps Hockey Ted Wheeler is "Cyndi Lauper" (sticker) Erica is "Rambo: First Blood Part 2" (sticker) __________________ Glad tidings from the City of Unconditional Love!

07-16-2019, 12:12 PM	#93
DrGhostbuster Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,710 arealghostbuster DrGhostbuster	Wow! a Huge Jump in numbers for Week #2: "Print Run: 325" That almost doubles the print run of 174 for the first week. __________________ Looking for Cryptozoic GHOSTBUSTERS Sketches & Printing Plates!

07-17-2019, 06:55 PM	#95
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 23,326	Blaster incentive templates (continued): Week 3 Jonathan Byers is Rocky IV Nancy Wheeler is 1985 Topps Football Demogorgon "Goonies" Steve Harrington is 1985 Topps USFL Barb Holland is 1985 Topps Baseball Week 4 probables: Joyce Byers Eleven Dustin Henderson Dr. Sam Owen (Paul Reiser) Bob Newby (Should be a "Goonies" design since Astin was in that movie) __________________ Glad tidings from the City of Unconditional Love!

07-22-2019, 02:38 PM	#96
DrGhostbuster Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,710 arealghostbuster DrGhostbuster	According to tracking, should have my week 1 order Wednesday. I did not even know season 2 had a retail release until this promotion. All the places that carried season 1 blasters like Target & Wal-Mart never carried these season 2 blasters in my area. __________________ Looking for Cryptozoic GHOSTBUSTERS Sketches & Printing Plates!

07-10-2019, 10:29 AM	#79
ForceChange77 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 3,627 chansterbogey	Wasn't a big fan of Season 2, but I am enjoying Season 3 quite a bit.

07-10-2019, 11:20 AM	#82
deeceman Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,370 deeceman	To me, every rittenhouse release looks the same and I do t think they would have gotten the retro look and feel right. Their x-files product was a complete travesty too although many of the others have been thorough if not so visually exciting. Upper Deck makes some great looking cards from a tech standpoint but often is hard pressed to get many of the major signers. I would not have minded if Cryptozoic got a shot at it. It would be awesome to get Winona Ryder, Matthew Modine, Sean Astin, Paul Reiser, John Reynolds, Finn Wolfhard, Caleb McLaughlin, Charlie Heaton, Natalia Dyer, Dacre Montgomery, Shannon Purser and Maya Hawke to sign.

07-23-2019, 12:43 PM	#97
DrGhostbuster Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,710 arealghostbuster DrGhostbuster	Week 1 Print Run: 174 Week 2 Print Run: 325 Week 3 Print Run: 200 ...very lopsided week 2 purchases __________________ Looking for Cryptozoic GHOSTBUSTERS Sketches & Printing Plates!

07-23-2019, 02:08 PM	#99
DrGhostbuster Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,710 arealghostbuster DrGhostbuster	Ok, I virtually never tweet. I only ever created a account to enter some Funko contest years ago, but I had to send this to Topps. I hope I did it correctly. "@Topps Why was this card never included in your @Stranger_Things Online Exclusive Set? Where is the Goonies love? #gooniesneversaydie" https://twitter.com/DrGhostbuster_/s...41201410891777 __________________ Looking for Cryptozoic GHOSTBUSTERS Sketches & Printing Plates!

07-23-2019, 04:33 PM	#100
deeceman Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,370 deeceman	I don't know how to tweet either but I wish a bunch of people would tweet at Topps wondering where the heck the Gaten Matarazzo auto cards are at!