Let the Franmil Reyes eBay Returns BEGIN!

[D-Lite]

Originally Posted by paparoke

Ebay needs to refine their return process, especially on collectibles. A large portion of people buy cards for the investment aspect, this is a risk and gamble that they must assume. Allowing folks to return cards and taking away the risk from buyers will eventually drive sellers to sell elsewhere. This is liking buying stocks from a broker and selling it back at full price once it tanks. Ebay is one of the worst run business I've ever seen, it's only a matter of time before a better platform is out there and they'll go away.

The problem is eBay treats collectible sales the same as vacuum cleaners. You buy a vacuum and expect it to work in 180 days. A collectible, especially of a living, active athlete is like stocks as you note, it fluctuates. As such eBay should have different rules for this.

One day I should actually show up to one of those eBay town hall events.

[paparoke]

Originally Posted by D-Lite

The problem is eBay treats collectible sales the same as vacuum cleaners.

Exactly, they don't differentiate when they should. You would think that with the size and volume of sales in this category compounded with the frivolous returns, that they would've identified this problem a long time ago. At a minimum, they should remove members that constantly return items or at least give sellers the ability to filter out these buyers and prevent sales to them, if the seller chooses to.

[7nohitter]

I feel for all of you big sellers on ebay, I read time and again how you get screwed over.

People ( buyers) have got to take the good with the bad. Case in point:

Last week I bought a card on the BST here....my mistake for not checking ebay first because the same card was going for $25-$30 less....BUT, I had already committed to the purchase, so I followed through.

Next time, I'll check the bay first, BUT certainly not the seller's fault for me not being diligent....not going to stiff him or her.

[Bowman1951]

Karma will come back around to you when those cards end up back in your hands and go up 5x in value because people are stupid and they should never rely on super small sample sizes to initiate "buyers remorse".

[ThoseBackPages]

any new stories today?

[Maxim104]

I just got a return request an hour ago for a 2 Card Base Auto Lot I sold. Got delivered today and buyer simply said, “I changed my mind”. Cancel request denied. Sorry!

[StlScott]

Originally Posted by Bowman1951

Karma will come back around to you when those cards end up back in your hands and go up 5x in value because people are stupid and they should never rely on super small sample sizes to initiate "buyers remorse".

As has a been said earlier, Ebay needs to do a better job with collectibles. Again, people will lie to get want they want. Like someone said, I do root for the players I sell.

With that said, it seems like there is a certain amount of Karma that goes around everytime a prospector sells a prospect. They are getting as much as they think they would EVER get for a card. They assume, more often then not, the card will drop in value sooner rather than later. So, they get rid of the hot potato. There is a buyer beware to this of course. Karmacally(?), not cool...

Many say I wish I hadnt sold that Trout or Kershaw or whoever. If you knew where the prices were going you wouldnt have! The ones that sold because they didnt think it would go any higher, got what was coming to them.

[jrg1128]

Not trying to hijack this thread but quick question for you guys. I filed my first return ever today on ebay. I know that cards aren't expected to be gem mint when I buy, but I received an Isaac Paredes green chrome refractor today that was placed in a toploader and no penny sleeve. Took it out and there were many noticeable scratches on the card. Seller stated very good condition in description but pictures were a little fuzzy. Now I contacted the seller and he said "sorry I do not accept returns." So I filed for a return with ebay, do you guys think I am justified in filing for the return? I know that usually if you have to ask then it's not justified, but if they guy just puts the card in a penny sleeve before the toploader then the card wouldn't have scratches all over it. I really wanted the card also so it was kind of a bummer for me.

[RoyalsFan]

I put no returns accepted and have no issues! But I only sell 30-50 items a month and am not a big time seller like most here.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Maxim104

I just got a return request an hour ago for a 2 Card Base Auto Lot I sold. Got delivered today and buyer simply said, “I changed my mind”. Cancel request denied. Sorry!

Can't they still send it back? I thought you had no choice on ebay but to accept returns or the person could just do a paypal chargeback. I havent sold that much over the last year or so, but that is how it used to be.

[StlScott]

and what about a restocking fee? if they say it is not as described do they have have to pay it?

[superdan49]

Originally Posted by jrg1128

Not trying to hijack this thread but quick question for you guys. I filed my first return ever today on ebay. I know that cards aren't expected to be gem mint when I buy, but I received an Isaac Paredes green chrome refractor today that was placed in a toploader and no penny sleeve. Took it out and there were many noticeable scratches on the card. Seller stated very good condition in description but pictures were a little fuzzy. Now I contacted the seller and he said "sorry I do not accept returns." So I filed for a return with ebay, do you guys think I am justified in filing for the return? I know that usually if you have to ask then it's not justified, but if they guy just puts the card in a penny sleeve before the toploader then the card wouldn't have scratches all over it. I really wanted the card also so it was kind of a bummer for me.

Yes, that is a legitimate reason to return. Any seller who ships in a toploader without a penny sleeve deserves to have damaged cards sent back to them. File for a return despite his policy. eBay will have your back.

The type of returns being discussed here are wholly different than your situation.

[bobthewondercat]

Originally Posted by paparoke

Ebay is one of the worst run business I've ever seen, it's only a matter of time before a better platform is out there and they'll go away.

I agree with the first part, but I wish I could agree with the second.

The infrastructure needed to build a serious competitor to ebay is huge. Plus the margins are minimal compared to what tech startups are aiming for these days.

No one has come close in 15 years so I'm not holding my breath.

[majestik101]

About 90% of my sales are on FB groups nowadays. eBay is just too much of a headache, especially when trying to sell prospects or high end.

[D-Lite]

Originally Posted by jrg1128

Not trying to hijack this thread but quick question for you guys. I filed my first return ever today on ebay. I know that cards aren't expected to be gem mint when I buy, but I received an Isaac Paredes green chrome refractor today that was placed in a toploader and no penny sleeve. Took it out and there were many noticeable scratches on the card. Seller stated very good condition in description but pictures were a little fuzzy. Now I contacted the seller and he said "sorry I do not accept returns." So I filed for a return with ebay, do you guys think I am justified in filing for the return? I know that usually if you have to ask then it's not justified, but if they guy just puts the card in a penny sleeve before the toploader then the card wouldn't have scratches all over it. I really wanted the card also so it was kind of a bummer for me.

Yes, because the seller is responsible for the SAFE delivery of the card. A penny sleeve is essential. It's rare to find a seller that doesn't use a penny sleeve, so much so that it is considered common/basic practice.

[dmanrico]

Originally Posted by bobthewondercat

I agree with the first part, but I wish I could agree with the second.

The infrastructure needed to build a serious competitor to ebay is huge. Plus the margins are minimal compared to what tech startups are aiming for these days.

No one has come close in 15 years so I'm not holding my breath.

The infrastructure is there already. I think Facebook will emerge as a serious competitor.

[Cavaliercards]

We will take less to sell on here just to make things easier.

[Jaypers]

Welp, guess who just hit his first dinger.

[monkeymcgee]

He just hit a nice one out--buy, buy, buy

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Welp, guess who just hit his first dinger.

Juan Soto. We heard.

Jeez JP. Don't have to rub it in.

[Schocktown]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Juan Soto. We heard.

Jeez JP. Don't have to rub it in.

I think he is referring to Reyes hitting his first.

[ThoseBackPages]

now he and Soto can have a dual Topps NOW card tomorrow lol

[Wiseguy917]

Originally Posted by Schocktown

I think he is referring to Reyes hitting his first.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Wiseguy917

This forum is an awesome place.

[dasiegel]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

now he and Soto can have a dual Topps NOW card tomorrow lol

Topps Right The F Now Edition!!!

OP, screw all those returns, laugh when they sell higher!