Shaq does not sign his Panini cards - Page 4

duron · 11-21-2016, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rimshaqer34

If this indeed is true, it kinda make me looks like an a** LOL

Thanks for the thorough analysis. Hope this thread can raise attention to Panini America

Haha, na man. Not your fault at all.

Imo there's no chance Panini has NOT seen this thread already.

Bigalloyd13 · 11-22-2016, 02:10 AM

This is just so sad. It's pretty clear he isn't signing his cards. Something should be done about this. I want to believe it's not true but the evidence is too strong. Panini really needs to look into this.

mtlinroc · 11-22-2016, 02:28 AM

I don't know if these Super Break signatures should also be used as evidence that the panini cards from 2013-present are abnormal but Shaq was even filmed signing these pieces and the signatures are consistent with older sample autos but not the newest ones:

regularp · 11-22-2016, 02:38 AM

COMCMax · 11-22-2016, 08:54 AM

So Shaq/Kobe still don't have a on card autograph together

Thank goodness for the acetate manufacturing defect or I would be the proud owner of one of these. Price have softened up quite a bit since the release.

15-16 Panini Immaculate Kobe Bryant / Shaquille O'Neal # 07/25 Dual Auto

Rareairx23 · 11-22-2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rimshaqer34

If this indeed is true, it kinda make me looks like an a** LOL

Thanks for the thorough analysis. Hope this thread can raise attention to Panini America, cross my fingers though

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Oh not at all dude, i just meant how does it make you feel about your cards and how do you feel towards shaq? And does it make you feel like youve wasted your money now?

BestRCs · 11-22-2016, 11:20 AM

I tweeted Panini and Shaq. Questioned why the autos are different for panini and included the pic by shaqer. I doubt anyone will answer but I threw it out there.

I for one will be boycotting anything that looks like the not so shaq autos.

My wife was saying she would never collect shaq after this. Lol. but then again she isn't a collector. Lol

ljandkg · 11-22-2016, 12:15 PM

Man, I'm glad KG's auto has had this much scrutiny. He's had about 20 different versions!!

KG 21 Autos by Alistair Banks | Photobucket

If you can get past all the damn ads...

harkthesound · 11-22-2016, 02:29 PM

Is it just me, or do these 2001-02 Bowman's Best autos look suspicious as well? No vertical stroke to the right of the "S."

COMCMax · 11-22-2016, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BestRCs

I tweeted Panini and Shaq. Questioned why the autos are different for panini and included the pic by shaqer. I doubt anyone will answer but I threw it out there.

I for one will be boycotting anything that looks like the not so shaq autos.

My wife was saying she would never collect shaq after this. Lol. but then again she isn't a collector. Lol

Wonder what Panini would have to do if it was somehow proven 100% without a doubt that Shaq didn't sign the cards. Just pass the buck (to Shaq)?

Deadshot · 11-22-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

Wonder what Panini would have to do if it was somehow proven 100% without a doubt that Shaq didn't sign the cards. Just pass the buck (to Shaq)?

They might address him in private or go out of their way to avoid the issue. At most, they'll bring him in house for one signing and show off all of the pictures on their Instagram.

messier2 · 11-22-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by harkthesound

Is it just me, or do these 2001-02 Bowman's Best autos look suspicious as well? No vertical stroke to the right of the "S."

Nah, that one is good. The strokes looks consistent with the authentic ones.

hche · 11-22-2016, 03:05 PM

To me, the closing loop of the "S" and the extra "^" in the next stroke of the current Panini sig are really different from the other sigs.

SteveO21 · 11-22-2016, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadshot

They might address him in private or go out of their way to avoid the issue. At most, they'll bring him in house for one signing and show off all of the pictures on their Instagram.

Exactly this. I can't see them handling it any other way, and that's IF they even address it.

jcardstore · 11-22-2016, 04:03 PM

I will be very surprised if Panini does anything about it. They'll sell the exact same amount of product whether he signs or someone else does for him.

If it doesn't impact their bottom line they don't care

byronscott4ever · 11-22-2016, 04:08 PM

Tweet your suspicions to Beckett, SCD, Darren Rovell, etc. because that's the kind of attention they would find harder to ignore.

Chain · 11-22-2016, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ljandkg

Man, I'm glad KG's auto has had this much scrutiny. He's had about 20 different versions!!

KG 21 Autos by Alistair Banks | Photobucket

If you can get past all the damn ads...

Though KG has had many auto variations, I think the stroke on them have been consistent, parts that remain the same look the same, and the variations are consistent for the time period they were signed in. Same with Kobe and D Wade. LeBron on the other hand has had completely different strokes in his autographs, but at least the variations are consistent for the time period; have not dug deeper in to his autos though.

rimshaqer34 · 11-23-2016, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mtlinroc

I don't know if these Super Break signatures should also be used as evidence that the panini cards from 2013-present are abnormal but Shaq was even filmed signing these pieces and the signatures are consistent with older sample autos but not the newest ones:

Super break most likely signed by Shaq himself IMHO

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Originally Posted by Bigalloyd13

This is just so sad. It's pretty clear he isn't signing his cards. Something should be done about this. I want to believe it's not true but the evidence is too strong. Panini really needs to look into this.

I want to believe that this isn't true too

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Originally Posted by Rareairx23

Oh not at all dude, i just meant how does it make you feel about your cards and how do you feel towards shaq? And does it make you feel like youve wasted your money now?

Pretty much yeah...paid lots of money for cards signed by others than Shaq on Shaa Cards...

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

So Shaq/Kobe still don't have a on card autograph together

Thank goodness for the acetate manufacturing defect or I would be the proud owner of one of these. Price have softened up quite a bit since the release.

15-16 Panini Immaculate Kobe Bryant / Shaquille O'Neal # 07/25 Dual Auto

It'll softened more I think...

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Originally Posted by Deadshot

They might address him in private or go out of their way to avoid the issue. At most, they'll bring him in house for one signing and show off all of the pictures on their Instagram.

Probably not....they just let it slip...

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Originally Posted by harkthesound

Is it just me, or do these 2001-02 Bowman's Best autos look suspicious as well? No vertical stroke to the right of the "S."

Yours is better than mine, I'll show u mine later on

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestRCs

I tweeted Panini and Shaq. Questioned why the autos are different for panini and included the pic by shaqer. I doubt anyone will answer but I threw it out there.

I for one will be boycotting anything that looks like the not so shaq autos.

My wife was saying she would never collect shaq after this. Lol. but then again she isn't a collector. Lol

Silent response I believe

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

Wonder what Panini would have to do if it was somehow proven 100% without a doubt that Shaq didn't sign the cards. Just pass the buck (to Shaq)?

Do nothing? LOL

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

I will be very surprised if Panini does anything about it. They'll sell the exact same amount of product whether he signs or someone else does for him.

If it doesn't impact their bottom line they don't care

That is true, it's just maybe 0.5% of all their autographed cards or even less, it won't hurt their already "not-good" reputation at all...

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COMCMax · 11-24-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BestRCs

I tweeted Panini and Shaq. Questioned why the autos are different for panini and included the pic by shaqer. I doubt anyone will answer but I threw it out there.

So did we hear back from either? ::crickets::

Hugh Wahl · 11-25-2016, 07:05 AM

I have an auto from his earlier years that resembles the newer panini signatures much more than the standard "S" "H" you usually see him sign. Back in the day he used to sign the full Shaq O'Neal. I hope this isn't true,

rimshaqer34 · 12-07-2016, 09:28 PM

It was just posted on instagram few hour ago, was it Sports Kings product? If you zoom at the autographed card, it looked like the auto was quite consistent with early Panini autographs

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the27guy · 12-07-2016, 10:13 PM

Welp.... there went that.

bjho852 · 12-08-2016, 12:42 AM

The photo was actually taken a few years ago. Those Shaq cards are for Sportkings Series F in 2013 if my memories serve. Cristiano Ronaldo (football/soccer star from Real Madrid) had also signed on for that product.

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Originally Posted by rimshaqer34

It was just posted on instagram few hour ago, was it Sports Kings product? If you zoom at the autographed card, it looked like the auto was quite consistent with early Panini autographs

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rimshaqer34 · 12-08-2016, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bjho852

The photo was actually taken a few years ago. Those Shaq cards are for Sportkings Series F in 2013 if my memories serve. Cristiano Ronaldo (football/soccer star from Real Madrid) had also signed on for that product.

Yes it was from that Sports Kings series, I recognize the card. The thing is, I was pointing that Shaq's Autographs on thise Sport Kings series was pretty consistent with early Panini autographs....

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BestRCs · 12-08-2016, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

So did we hear back from either? ::crickets::

Nada.. Tostada.

11-22-2016, 02:10 AM	#77
Bigalloyd13 Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,836	This is just so sad. It's pretty clear he isn't signing his cards. Something should be done about this. I want to believe it's not true but the evidence is too strong. Panini really needs to look into this. __________________ Ryan Anderson Supercollector Instagram: @ryanandersonpc

11-22-2016, 02:28 AM	#78
mtlinroc Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 1,870 mtlinroc	I don't know if these Super Break signatures should also be used as evidence that the panini cards from 2013-present are abnormal but Shaq was even filmed signing these pieces and the signatures are consistent with older sample autos but not the newest ones: __________________ Wants: KAT,Lauri Markkanen,MJ,LBJ,Kobe,Panarin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mtlinroc/ KAT PC FOLDER(NFS/NFT): https://www.flickr.com/photos/137698163@N04/albums/72157681939941956

11-22-2016, 11:20 AM	#82
BestRCs Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,471 BestRCs	I tweeted Panini and Shaq. Questioned why the autos are different for panini and included the pic by shaqer. I doubt anyone will answer but I threw it out there. I for one will be boycotting anything that looks like the not so shaq autos. My wife was saying she would never collect shaq after this. Lol. but then again she isn't a collector. Lol __________________ LF Rare/Cool Ichiro's (2001-2012): Especially - 2001-04 UD era autos - 2001 RC's #/100 or less. - 2002-12 Refractor's #/25 or less. - 2001-12 Cool Patch cards <50

11-22-2016, 12:15 PM	#83
ljandkg Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,428	Man, I'm glad KG's auto has had this much scrutiny. He's had about 20 different versions!! KG 21 Autos by Alistair Banks \| Photobucket If you can get past all the damn ads... __________________ Garnett jersey #'d count - 424 https://www.flickr.com/photos/152215151@N02/albums/72157685722278255 'KG is a mercenary and Eric Williams was a better Celtic.' - someone on Blowout

11-22-2016, 02:29 PM	#84
harkthesound Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 74 harkthesound	Is it just me, or do these 2001-02 Bowman's Best autos look suspicious as well? No vertical stroke to the right of the "S." Attached Thumbnails Last edited by harkthesound; 11-22-2016 at 02:34 PM.

11-22-2016, 02:38 AM	#79
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11-22-2016, 08:54 AM	#80
COMCMax Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,912 Maximoose	So Shaq/Kobe still don't have a on card autograph together Thank goodness for the acetate manufacturing defect or I would be the proud owner of one of these. Price have softened up quite a bit since the release. 15-16 Panini Immaculate Kobe Bryant / Shaquille O'Neal # 07/25 Dual Auto

11-22-2016, 03:05 PM	#88
hche Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,295	To me, the closing loop of the "S" and the extra "^" in the next stroke of the current Panini sig are really different from the other sigs.

11-22-2016, 04:03 PM	#90
jcardstore Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 21,791 Jcardstore	I will be very surprised if Panini does anything about it. They'll sell the exact same amount of product whether he signs or someone else does for him. If it doesn't impact their bottom line they don't care __________________ Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell

11-22-2016, 04:08 PM	#91
byronscott4ever Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11,364	Tweet your suspicions to Beckett, SCD, Darren Rovell, etc. because that's the kind of attention they would find harder to ignore.

11-25-2016, 07:05 AM	#95
Hugh Wahl Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Delaware Posts: 117 Rowdyeg6	I have an auto from his earlier years that resembles the newer panini signatures much more than the standard "S" "H" you usually see him sign. Back in the day he used to sign the full Shaq O'Neal. I hope this isn't true, __________________ "Don't fake the funk, on a nasty dunk" Always looking for Shaquille O'neal!!!

12-07-2016, 09:28 PM	#96
rimshaqer34 Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Indonesia Posts: 772 rimshaqer34 rimshaqer34	It was just posted on instagram few hour ago, was it Sports Kings product? If you zoom at the autographed card, it looked like the auto was quite consistent with early Panini autographs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Lifetime SHAQ collector ebay/FB/instagram/wechat ID : rimshaqer34

12-07-2016, 10:13 PM	#97
the27guy Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 14,673 the27guy the27guy	Welp.... there went that. __________________ @thereal27guy Founder of Basketball Card Fanatic Magazine