Running PSA Order Tracker

[JakeTheSnake]

Originally Posted by kabrune2

There is no way PSA is opening up Bulk grading anytime soon. I’ve got 3 Quarterly Special orders that will hit 1 year from PSA receiving the package (10 months after being logged in). These were all received in June according to USPS and all 3 are still in grading. We all know it got worse in the 2nd half of 2020, is it possible that PSA is out 18 months for bulk orders sent in December 2020, and won’t see them till July 2022?

Agreed. If there current Bulk TCG pace continues, I expect my 2 bulk orders delivered in February to return to me around June/July 2022. I assume the other bulk will have around the same return. Like you said, sitting at about 1 yr, 5-6 months turnaround at this pace. If they reopen July 1, they are gonna get flooded and cause another March debacle. Lowest they should open up is Regular on 1 July I think. But I’m a newbie, what the experienced folks think?

[panamamyers]

They have to keep super express and above open.
You don't want all the good cards ending up in other cases. You need the best of the best in a PSA case.

[Woodsy074]

Originally Posted by panamamyers

They have to keep super express and above open.
You don't want all the good cards ending up in other cases. You need the best of the best in a PSA case.

If its that great of a card, isn't it worth waiting for?

[mnvikingstwins]

Bulk UM order that sat for month+ in QA2

5 1
6 3
7 4
8 15
8.5 7
9 58
10 89
Grand Total 177

[mnvikingstwins]

They look to be almost completely caught up on entering orders with a ton of progress this week

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

They look to be almost completely caught up on entering orders with a ton of progress this week

They aren't progressing, they are falling further behind actually. They have focused on economy orders, but bulk are just sitting there. They are grading 120,000 collectibles a week. That is about 500,000 collectibles a month. They received 3,000,000 collectibles in January, February, and March 2021. It may look like they are making a dent, but turnaround times will continuously fall further behind as they make it to later months.

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

They aren't progressing, they are falling further behind actually. They have focused on economy orders, but bulk are just sitting there. They are grading 120,000 collectibles a week. That is about 500,000 collectibles a month. They received 3,000,000 collectibles in January, February, and March 2021. It may look like they are making a dent, but turnaround times will continuously fall further behind as they make it to later months.

Not true, once the order logging is finished they have more resources for the other steps

[rroboo]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Not true, once the order logging is finished they have more resources for the other steps

PSA times will get bottlenecked with the graders that they have. I don't think order logging employees are trained the same way but maybe I am wrong.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Not true, once the order logging is finished they have more resources for the other steps

This is all speculation about what PSA's bottleneck is. IMO their bottleneck will always be grading. Sure, you can take people from other departments to help out, but you can't put someone into grading from shipping. Even if they start grading 20% more collectibles that will put them at 150,000 cards a week. Their backlog is still probably over 7 million cards at this point. They won't get rid of this mess for a year plus.

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by rroboo

PSA times will get bottlenecked with the graders that they have. I don't think order logging employees are trained the same way but maybe I am wrong.

currently QA2 is quite the bottleneck so they could move employees over to there or shipping

[oddstuff]

Originally Posted by kabrune2

There is no way PSA is opening up Bulk grading anytime soon. I’ve got 3 Quarterly Special orders that will hit 1 year from PSA receiving the package (10 months after being logged in). These were all received in June according to USPS and all 3 are still in grading. We all know it got worse in the 2nd half of 2020, is it possible that PSA is out 18 months for bulk orders sent in December 2020, and won’t see them till July 2022?

For bulk/value level, at the minimum not this year but I could see them opening with a modified version (i.e. $20-25+ per card) next spring. People will know by then to stop sending low end stuff as the grading standards have toughened where low end stuff will more than likely get a 9 or worse and cause submitters to lose money at $20-25 a card.

[oddstuff]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Bulk UM order that sat for month+ in QA2

5 1
6 3
7 4
8 15
8.5 7
9 58
10 89
Grand Total 177

Just about a 50/50 split between gems/non-gems...meet expectations?

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by oddstuff

Just about a 50/50 split between gems/non-gems...meet expectations?

yeah mostly Chronicles and Score. The awful grades will be fun to sell

5 2019 Panini Score 334 Drew Lock
6 2019 Panini Chronicles 159 Luka Doncic
6 2019 Panini Chronicles 571 Kendrick Nunn
6 2018 Panini Donruss 301 Sam Darnold
7 2019 Panini Chronicles 664 Zion Williamson
7 2019 Panini Chronicles 120 Zion Williamson
7 2018 Panini Donruss 162 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
7 2017 Panini Score 373 Christian McCaffrey

[imbluestreak23]

Regular movement to Grading which is nice

Order Type: Bulk - Value Ultra Modern (2017 - present)
# of cards: 366
Order received per USPS (if possible): Shipped 11/12/20, Received 11/15/20
Order received per PSA: R&D 2/4/21
Order popped: pending

Order Type: Bulk - Value Modern (1972 - 2016)
# of cards: 239
Order received per USPS (if possible): Shipped 11/12/20, Received 11/15/20
Order received per PSA: R&D 11/17/20
Order Popped: pending

Order Type: Regular
# of cards: 19
Order received per USPS (if possible): Shipped 11/12/20, Received 11/15/20
Order received per PSA: R&D 11/16/20
Order Popped: 12/18/20
Graded Video:


Order Type: Bulk Ultra Modern
# of cards: 158
Order received per USPS (if possible): Arrived 12/22/20
Order received per PSA: 12/22/20, R&D 2/22/21
Order Popped: TBD

Order Type: Bulk Modern
# of cards: 102
Order received per USPS (if possible): Arrived 12/22/20
Order received per PSA: 12/22/20, R&D 2/23/21
Order Popped: TBD

Order Type: Regular
# of cards: 33
Order received per USPS (if possible): Arrived 12/22/20
Order received per PSA: 12/22/20, R&D 12/19/20, QA2 2/3/21
Order Popped: 2/5/20

Order Type: Bulk Ultra Modern
# of cards: 88
Order received per USPS (if possible): Arrived 2/2/2
Order received per PSA: 2/2/21, R&D 3/25/21
Order Popped: TBD

Order Type: Bulk Modern
# of cards: 198
Order received per USPS (if possible): Arrived 2/2/21
Order received per PSA: 2/2/21, R&D 3/25/21
Order Popped: TBD

Order Type: Regular
# of cards: 14
Order received per USPS (if possible): Arrived 2/2/21, R&D 2/4/21
Order received per PSA: 2/21/21, R&D 2/4/21, Grading 3/1/21, Assembly 3/23/21, QA1 3/23/21, QA2 3/23/21
Order Popped: 3/31/21

Order Type: Regular
# of cards: 138
Order received per USPS (if possible): 4/5/21
Order received per PSA: 4/5/21, Grading 5/13/21
Order Popped: TBD

Order Type: Super Express
# of cards: 4
Order received per USPS (if possible): 4/5/21
Order received per PSA: 4/5/21, R&D 4/7, Grading 4/7, Assembly 4/9, QA1 4/9, QA2 4/11
Order Popped: 4/13/21

[rroboo]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Regular movement to Grading which is nice


Order Type: Super Express
# of cards: 4
Order received per USPS (if possible): 4/5/21
Order received per PSA: 4/5/21, R&D 4/7, Grading 4/7, Assembly 4/9, QA1 4/9, QA2 4/11
Order Popped: 4/13/21

Interested in your super express results and what you sent in.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by rroboo

Interested in your super express results and what you sent in.

Oh just wait. I'm putting together a vid to do a nice comparison between the PSA results and the same 4 cards going to BGS.

In summary, it wasn't good results with PSA in comparison lol.

[panamamyers]

Originally Posted by Woodsy074

If its that great of a card, isn't it worth waiting for?

If someone has a Kobe rookie refractor for example they want to get graded and PSA has all levels shut down, they will just find someone else to grade it and then sell it
One card like that is worth hundreds of thousands of Joey Gallo rookies in terms of building the brand for PSA.

[Woodsy074]

Originally Posted by panamamyers

If someone has a Kobe rookie refractor for example they want to get graded and PSA has all levels shut down, they will just find someone else to grade it and then sell it
One card like that is worth hundreds of thousands of Joey Gallo rookies in terms of building the brand for PSA.

That would be very short sighted by someone and a great opportunity to buy a card to crack that will go to PSA anyway at the end of the day. Its all hypotheticals anyway because rather than do a full shut down like they need to get the backlog manageable, PSA shot themselves in the foot by announcing they are on track to begin introducing service levels on July 1st. Even if its just Express, they are going to get flooded again and lower levels are just going to get pushed further back in the queue. It is going to get much worse before anything gets better.

[Springerj23]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

yeah mostly Chronicles and Score. The awful grades will be fun to sell

5 2019 Panini Score 334 Drew Lock
6 2019 Panini Chronicles 159 Luka Doncic
6 2019 Panini Chronicles 571 Kendrick Nunn
6 2018 Panini Donruss 301 Sam Darnold
7 2019 Panini Chronicles 664 Zion Williamson
7 2019 Panini Chronicles 120 Zion Williamson
7 2018 Panini Donruss 162 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
7 2017 Panini Score 373 Christian McCaffrey

You don’t sell them graded
Crack and throw in your $1 box or 5 for $10, etc.

[panamamyers]

Originally Posted by Woodsy074

That would be very short sighted by someone and a great opportunity to buy a card to crack that will go to PSA anyway at the end of the day. Its all hypotheticals anyway because rather than do a full shut down like they need to get the backlog manageable, PSA shot themselves in the foot by announcing they are on track to begin introducing service levels on July 1st. Even if its just Express, they are going to get flooded again and lower levels are just going to get pushed further back in the queue. It is going to get much worse before anything gets better.

Not so sure that I'd agree that every card will ultimately end up in PSA. BGS has pretty good resale value as well. PSA does not want to lose market share on the important cards. They will never turn off all levels of service.

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by Springerj23

You don’t sell them graded
Crack and throw in your $1 box or 5 for $10, etc.

I've still yet to sell a card for a loss after grading and have had some real duds

[panamamyers]

Originally Posted by panamamyers View Post
Order Type: Super Express
Shipped: 5/9/2021
Delivered USPS: 5/12/2021
Received: 5/14/2021
Order Prep:5/14/2021
Research & ID:5/14/2021
Grading:
Assembly:
QA Check 1:
QA Check 2:
Shipped:

[BuddyCards]

Order Type: Super Express
Shipped: 3/3/2021
Delivered USPS: 3/5/2021
Received: 3/11/2021
Order Prep: 4/29/2021
Shipped: 5/5/2021
Order Type: Super Express
Shipped: 5/8/2021
Delivered: 5/10/2021
Received: 5/10/2021
Order Prep: 5/13/2021
RID: 5/13/2021
Grading: 5/13/2021
Assembly: 5/14/2021
QA1:
QA2:
Shipped:

[LondonGames]

Just got poppage on a 124 card Ultra Modern submission.

25/124 Gem.
12/124 Near Mint.
The rest Mint.

I gotta say, 20% GEM rate is by far the worst GEM rate I've ever had. This is the first time ever under 50%, and most orders have been around 80%.

110 or more of these cards fit what I would consider to be near flawless standards. I would be surprised if I sent in the 90+ cards that did not GEM to Beckett if less than 3-4 did not Pristine with at least 1 Black label.

This submission was sent in before the NFL season, and at the time the cards were valued between $3 and $80 each. Now the cards are valued at between $3 and $1000 each ungraded. Zero cards valued at over $100 currently ungraded received a GEM, for which there were a total of 20 in the package.

1 particular card that I had previously gotten 38 out of 40 GEMs on, went 1 for 5 in this package. The 5 cards were in the same group of the best copies for the same card as the previous 38 GEMs.

I would say there is not only pop control, but also value control. What PSA is doing in regards to upcharges and value control is pretty incredible. I don't know how they can hold onto your cards for a year, and then upcharge you based on current value. While at the same time if the card goes down you cannot get a refund based on what tier you could've sent in at. I suppose either their solve for this at times is to not upcharge on Ultra Modern, and merely grade strict so that you have to re send in again. That seems to be a little too much of a conspiracy though, so I'll just chalk it up to pop control and strict grading on valuable cards relative to the submission cost. I will say that the only times I've felt like I've gotten unfair grading in the past year or so was when my cards turned out to be way under declared value, due to them going up while they were at PSA.

Anyways, good luck to everyone who has Ultra Modern out there from last year that has cards that are worth a lot now. I hope you do well.

[rroboo]

Originally Posted by LondonGames

Just got poppage on a 124 card Ultra Modern submission.

25/124 Gem.
12/124 Near Mint.
The rest Mint.

I gotta say, 20% GEM rate is by far the worst GEM rate I've ever had. This is the first time ever under 50%, and most orders have been around 80%.

I wrote off the conspiracy. I have not seen anyone do well in the past couple of weeks. There are people that send in junk that is justified, however, there are too many people including me that are doing terribly when we previously had 70%+ Gem Rates. PSA better be careful or subgrades will become a necessity and make them obsolete to the market trend.