Topps 582 Montgomery Club

[Mattsurewood]

Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

I learned mine.

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

You should see the boycott of Star Wars Stellar. BO cancelled the breaks because they couldn't even fill one.

It just sucks right now. I hate when cruiserdaddy says i was "Suckered in", but I was, and I'm to blame. It's guys like me that need to stop buying this crap.. If there are 500 of me in this club, and we stop buying into it, maybe it would affect the bottom line for Topps, but probably not. I enjoy ripping wax, I collect, I have a great PC.. Maybe singles is the way to go. I guess this club membership lasts the year. They have time to make it right to a sheep like me, but i'd be surprised if they did.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

It just sucks right now. I hate when cruiserdaddy says i was "Suckered in", but I was, and I'm to blame. It's guys like me that need to stop buying this crap.. If there are 500 of me in this club, and we stop buying into it, maybe it would affect the bottom line for Topps, but probably not. I enjoy ripping wax, I collect, I have a great PC.. Maybe singles is the way to go. I guess this club membership lasts the year. They have time to make it right to a sheep like me, but i'd be surprised if they did.

It's your money don't let other people judge you how you spend your money

[Peteybass]

Mine came today, six cards. nothing special but could have been worse. Thought I would at least get one rookie and an /5 though. Luckily I received decent color combinations I dont mind keeping a few and collect Bob Gibson. Cards are way better looking in person but obviously over priced. Im done buying this kind of stuff and Topps Now but was fun to dream of an Ohtani 1/1.

Im open to trading as well except for Bob Gibson.

[Soxfanguy]

On the bright side, probably will be lots of cheap singles on eBay

[mcgoo2]

Honestly, I think the cards look nice. I also think anyone busting at $1,000 a box is insane.

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

I played the fool, didn’t remove my credit card, just got my bloodbath box..

Springer /5
Thor/25
Rosario/25
Randy Johnson/25
McGwire/5
Koufax Redemption “Red” /15

I will say condition on these is great, autos are clean..but I can only polish this turd so much. Redeemed the Koufax and hope it will be a nice add to the PC. Not selling anything, why bother, there ain’t no $300 winners in there, I’ll just keep ‘em.

If anyone from Topps is reading this, this is for you: your company needs to right this wrong you have done to people who paid $1000 for this product. You should have given buyers at least an option to pick 3 players we collect and send us one of them. I sent you an email stating I collect Trout, Soto, and Ripken, thinking you’d at least slide me a Ripken..nope, you just used the automated system and sent it out. Many of us who joined this club have the disposable income to spend a lot on your products. I open personal cases regularly and don’t post “results” in the forum, but a lot is spent. I’m the prototypical customer you desire, yet you are about to lose me (low 6 figure income, married but no kids, money to spend)..I DO feel like the Jim Carrey character in “Dumb and Dumber” now, and it’s all my fault.. I’ve been loyal to you to a fault. But this is it. I’ll find another hobby, or just buy basketball singles or something. You need to contact people who joined this club, paid the $1000, and take care of them. Honestly, just ask us who we collect and send us an on card Auto of that player, a nice one, even a Dynasty one, you can afford to do it. Make this right to your loyal consumers.

I don't see why they should. Just call it a loss and boycott future products before seeing a checklist

[justin80]

It was clear early on this product would be a bloodbath. Some took the gamble anyway. They have no one to blame but themselves. Learn from this mistake and be more careful in the future. Blindly giving a company money is almost never a good idea.

I speak from experience. I've been burned before and have significantly cut my Topps budget. In the past I've spent $20k+/year on this hobby, but I've become MUCH more selective. Topps lost my trust long before the Brooklyn Collection.

[base set]

How many baseball players actually have an on-card autograph card that sells for $200?

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by base set

How many baseball players actually have an on-card autograph card that sells for $200?

lets see here.. on card auto /25 > $200..



Trout, Ohtani rc, Jeter, Acuna rc, soto rc, maybe harper or judge, ichiro, koufax, mays, aaron, maybe Bonds or Griffey

[hoos]

Got my box today. Most of the cards look great in person, with good quality control. Like almost all, I’ll lose on the proposition, but got 6 hits and some nice cards

Gleyber /10 redemption
Clemens /5
Sanchez /5
Piazza /15
Altuve /15
McCutchen /15

[1989FF]

Originally Posted by anusinha

lets see here.. on card auto /25 > $200..



Trout, Ohtani rc, Jeter, Acuna rc, soto rc, maybe harper or judge, ichiro, koufax, mays, aaron, maybe Bonds or Griffey

Just quickly looked up Aaron that sold /25. Assume many other will have similar results. 20 have sold for $150-$200 the last few months. There's only 13 on your list vs. the 50/55 in BC. I assume many of those in your list are more expensive to sign. If they trim the fat how do they made up the revenue wanted? Be like Moments and Milestones and print so many 1/1 they're a joke?

[gmarutiak]

Originally Posted by hoos

Got my box today. Most of the cards look great in person, with good quality control. Like almost all, I’ll lose on the proposition, but got 6 hits and some nice cards

Gleyber /10 redemption
Clemens /5
Sanchez /5
Piazza /15
Altuve /15
McCutchen /15

This is the first box I’ve seen with all color. Nice!

[22emmittfan]

Originally Posted by hoos

Got my box today. Most of the cards look great in person, with good quality control. Like almost all, I’ll lose on the proposition, but got 6 hits and some nice cards

Gleyber /10 redemption
Clemens /5
Sanchez /5
Piazza /15
Altuve /15
McCutchen /15

why is torres pictured in promos but always a redemption? se a lot of people mocking these, but the cards are really nice. don't knock what you haven't seen in person

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

why is torres pictured in promos but always a redemption? se a lot of people mocking these, but the cards are really nice. don't knock what you haven't seen in person

If looking nice is what cards were based on, stadium club would be number 1

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

why is torres pictured in promos but always a redemption? se a lot of people mocking these, but the cards are really nice. don't knock what you haven't seen in person

It could be that Torres' cards came in too late to boxed up but were on hand to take pictures. Could be a fast turn around for people redeeming the card.

[WSU11]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

why is torres pictured in promos but always a redemption? se a lot of people mocking these, but the cards are really nice. don't knock what you haven't seen in person

I don’t think people are having an issue with how the cards look, so it’s more of an issue with the cost and less than amazing roll out of this product. Or lack there of more specifically. It seems like an ill-conceived cash grab, which I guess is an oxymoron???


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[hoos]

Originally Posted by cj828282

It could be that Torres' cards came in too late to boxed up but were on hand to take pictures. Could be a fast turn around for people redeeming the card.

I've redeemed my /10, so we'll see soon

[ziggyz129]

the real issue for Topps is a bet they make that the perfect high end set of beautiful cards will bring more value to vet autos than of vet autos in other sets. This happens with higher end basketball cards. For example a flawless patch Kobe auto /5 could have upto 20x more value vs Kobe absolute auto patch auto /5. In baseball no matter what topps trys to do (ie the mint, Brooklyn collection) to get collectors in a similar place as basketball it doesn’t happen. For example I find in baseball a Koufax on card auto /5 in 2018 compared to to a Koufax on card auto high end /5 will bare be a slight premium for a higher end good looking one. we are talking 10%-20% max difference in value.

I am actually really rooting for collectors to make these high end vet auto cards redicolusly more valuable than one you’d find in the next 100 dollar a box product - I think it be great for the hobby in that it will actually give purpose to high end baseball cards to compliment all the bowman products for draft picks.

[TheWrightStuff]

Seems like sellers are trying with all the crazy high BIN prices being put on these cards on ebay. But nothing at all is selling. Looks like only two of these auto cards have actually sold.

[WSU11]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

Seems like sellers are trying with all the crazy high BIN prices being put on these cards on ebay. But nothing at all is selling. Looks like only two of these auto cards have actually sold.

You mean $950 for a deGrom 12/25 Auto is too high?


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[bd3d86]

Originally Posted by base set

How many baseball players actually have an on-card autograph card that sells for $200?

I posted this earlier in the thread when people were still deciding. It is exactly why I didn't buy this.

Prices for each player based on similar cards in other products. Very few winners in this list.

BC1-AB Adrian Beltre Texas Rangers® 2018 Five Star #/10 - $37
BC1-AJ Aaron Judge New York Yankees® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $125
BC1-AM Andrew McCutchen San Francisco Giants® 2018 Update Red #/25 - $78
BC1-AP Andy Pettitte New York Yankees® 2018 Definitive Collection #/10 - $23.50
BC1-AR Anthony Rizzo Chicago Cubs® 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $49.99
BC1-BG Bob Gibson St. Louis Cardinals® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $41
BC1-BH Bryce Harper Washington Nationals® 2018 Ginter X #/5 - $156
BC1-BJ Bo Jackson Kansas City Royals® 2018 Five Star #/5 - $123
BC1-BW Bernie Williams New York Yankees® 2018 Definitive #/5 - $32
BC1-CB Craig Biggio Houston Astros® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $39.99
BC1-CJ Chipper Jones Atlanta Braves™ 2018 Five Star #/5 - $161
BC1-CR Cal Ripken Jr. Baltimore Orioles® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $113
BC1-DJ Derek Jeter New York Yankees® 2018 Five Star #/5 - $650
BC1-DM Don Mattingly New York Yankees® 2018 Five Star #/5 - $82
BC1-DO David Ortiz Boston Red Sox® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $73
BC1-FL Francisco Lindor Cleveland Indians® 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $31
BC1-FT Frank Thomas Chicago White Sox® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $115
BC1-GM Greg Maddux Atlanta Braves™ 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $83
BC1-GS George Springer Houston Astros® 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $40
BC1-GSA Gary Sanchez New York Yankees® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $37
BC1-GT Gleyber Torres New York Yankees® Rookie 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $113
BC1-HA Hank Aaron Atlanta Braves™ 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $226
BC1-HM Hideki Matsui New York Yankees® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $137
BC1-IR Ivan Rodriguez Texas Rangers® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $39
BC1-JA Jose Altuve Houston Astros® 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $77
BC1-JB Johnny Bench Cincinnati Reds® 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $45
BC1-JBA Jeff Bagwell Houston Astros® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $93
BC1-JD Jacob deGrom New York Mets® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $47
BC1-JSO Juan Soto Washington Nationals® Rookie 2018 Triple Threads #/25 - $300
BC1-JV Joey Votto Cincinnati Reds® 2018 Five Star #/5 - $70
BC1-KB Kris Bryant Chicago Cubs® 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $140
BC1-MM Mark McGwire St. Louis Cardinals® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $76
BC1-MMA Manny Machado Baltimore Orioles® 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $49
BC1-MP Mike Piazza New York Mets® 2018 Definitive #/5 - $65
BC1-MR Mariano Rivera New York Yankees® 2018 Definitive #/5 - $145
BC1-MT Mike Trout Angels® 2018 Tribute #/10 - $297
BC1-MTA Masahiro Tanaka New York Yankees® 2018 Definitve #/5 - $92
BC1-NR Nolan Ryan Texas Rangers® 2018 Five Star #/10 - $123
BC1-NS Noah Syndergaard New York Mets® 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $30
BC1-PM Pedro Martinez Boston Red Sox® 2018 Definitive #/5 - $78
BC1-RA Ronald Acuña Jr. Atlanta Braves™ Rookie 2018 Five Star #/5 - $510
BC1-RC Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox® 2018 Tribute #/10 - $47
BC1-RD Rafael Devers Boston Red Sox® Rookie 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $50
BC1-RH Rickey Henderson Oakland Athletics™ 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $75
BC1-RHO Rhys Hoskins Philadelphia Phillies® Rookie 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $83
BC1-RJ Randy Johnson Seattle Mariners™ 2018 Luminaries #/5 - $58
BC1-RJA Reggie Jackson New York Yankees® 2018 Diamond Icons #/5 - $65
BC1-SK Sandy Koufax Los Angeles Dodgers® 2018 Five Star #/5 - $300
BC1-SO Shohei Ohtani Angels® Rookie 2018 Gold Label #/5 - $800
BC1-YM Yadier Molina St. Louis Cardinals® 2018 Five Star #/5 - $152

[Americards]

They priced it correctly as they dont care if you want to sell it...
They sell to the end consumer.
If you want to sell it, then you lose.
If you dont sell it and keep what you own, then you dont actually lose anything.
Its when you sell, you lose.


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[seanbros55]

Originally Posted by Americards

They priced it correctly as they dont care if you want to sell it...
They sell to the end consumer.
If you want to sell it, then you lose.
If you dont sell it and keep what you own, then you dont actually lose anything.
Its when you sell, you lose.


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[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

If anyone from Topps is reading this, this is for you: your company needs to right this wrong you have done to people who paid $1000 for this product. You should have given buyers at least an option to pick 3 players we collect and send us one of them. I sent you an email stating I collect Trout, Soto, and Ripken, thinking you’d at least slide me a Ripken..nope, you just used the automated system and sent it out. Many of us who joined this club have the disposable income to spend a lot on your products. I open personal cases regularly and don’t post “results” in the forum, but a lot is spent. I’m the prototypical customer you desire, yet you are about to lose me (low 6 figure income, married but no kids, money to spend)..I DO feel like the Jim Carrey character in “Dumb and Dumber” now, and it’s all my fault.. I’ve been loyal to you to a fault. But this is it. I’ll find another hobby, or just buy basketball singles or something. You need to contact people who joined this club, paid the $1000, and take care of them. Honestly, just ask us who we collect and send us an on card Auto of that player, a nice one, even a Dynasty one, you can afford to do it. Make this right to your loyal consumers.

Yep - they have your money, they are done. I’m happy they lost me a few months back. They got my $200 to be a member of this, but I avoided this $1,000 debacle.

[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

If looking nice is what cards were based on, stadium club would be number 1

Facsimile signatures - they use them all the time to show us images of upcoming cards.