Official Tom Brady RC Price Tracker - Page 385

daviswr7 · 03-08-2021, 11:08 PM

This will go down as one of the worst pictures in the history of history, but a customer sent these pics to me today. Thoughts on authenticity?????...again sorry about the pics As it’s all I have to go off for now....Jersey number and all had me perking up...he’s going to bring it in on Thursday. I’ve bought some stuff from him before. All
Legit so far...

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iwinsnatch · 03-08-2021, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by daviswr7

This will go down as one of the worst pictures in the history of history, but a customer sent these pics to me today. Thoughts on authenticity?????...again sorry about the pics As it’s all I have to go off for now....Jersey number and all had me perking up...he’s going to bring it in on Thursday. I’ve bought some stuff from him before. All
Legit so far...

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Scotch tape... nice touch.

3124508 on COMC · 03-08-2021, 11:17 PM

No, of course it’s not real. These are all over eBay.

daviswr7 · 03-08-2021, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by iwinsnatch

Scotch tape... nice touch.

You should of seen his jordan and Walter Payton rookie...lol. Would’ve floored ya.

daviswr7 · 03-08-2021, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

No, of course it’s not real. These are all over eBay.

Thx 312. Your opinion is greatly appreciated.

Tonic3 · 03-08-2021, 11:18 PM

Look at the back of the real one on eBay. Then look at the back of this one.......ah no

daviswr7 · 03-09-2021, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

Look at the back of the real one on eBay. Then look at the back of this one.......ah no

Got it. Def not real. Thx for the help everyone!!!

COMCMax · 03-09-2021, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jrnelson

A BGS true mint (no 8.5's) is about to end.
Will it break the record for a BGS 9 sell???

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383979567632?ul_noapp=true

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Originally Posted by jrnelson

I believe so, right after the super bowl win.

Ended at 85K still not bad at all!

I think this is a 100K card end of next season.

The BGS 8.5 (9) auto went for $35,100. The weak auto really hurt it. Almost 20k cheaper than the last 8.5.

jgb1219 · 03-09-2021, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

The BGS 8.5 (9) auto went for $35,100. The weak auto really hurt it. Almost 20k cheaper than the last 8.5.

Wow - that's crazy that the autograph dropped the price so much. Compared with other BGS 8.5, looks like it dropped the value by $20-30K. Looking at the pictures, the two autographs actually don't look THAT different.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts on the Brady question. Similar to yesterday, would it be better to buy a lower rated (BGS 8.5, auto 9) Playoff Contenders rookie for $35K, or a Gem Mint 10 version of a different Brady rookie for a similar amount?

Asking because, when I was last collecting more frequently, there were certain "iconic cards" like the 1952 Mantle that always seemed to carry a premium to expected valuation. Of course, there's only a small number of cards that reach icon status. Wondering if you guys think the Brady Playoff Contenders is on the list?

PeytonGoat · 03-09-2021, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jgb1219

Wow - that's crazy that the autograph dropped the price so much. Compared with other BGS 8.5, looks like it dropped the value by $20-30K. Looking at the pictures, the two autographs actually don't look THAT different.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts on the Brady question. Similar to yesterday, would it be better to buy a lower rated (BGS 8.5, auto 9) Playoff Contenders rookie for $35K, or a Gem Mint 10 version of a different Brady rookie for a similar amount?

Asking because, when I was last collecting more frequently, there were certain "iconic cards" like the 1952 Mantle that always seemed to carry a premium to expected valuation. Of course, there's only a small number of cards that reach icon status. Wondering if you guys think the Brady Playoff Contenders is on the list?

Hi!

Yeah, it’s on the iconic list.

It’s his second best card after the ticket. No doubt.

Pop for the base contenders in PSA 9/10’s are 30!

Only 30!

I still think it is vastly undervalued.

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grayghost17 · 03-09-2021, 01:28 PM

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Brian48 · 03-09-2021, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jgb1219

Wow - that's crazy that the autograph dropped the price so much. Compared with other BGS 8.5, looks like it dropped the value by $20-30K. Looking at the pictures, the two autographs actually don't look THAT different.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts on the Brady question. Similar to yesterday, would it be better to buy a lower rated (BGS 8.5, auto 9) Playoff Contenders rookie for $35K, or a Gem Mint 10 version of a different Brady rookie for a similar amount?

Asking because, when I was last collecting more frequently, there were certain "iconic cards" like the 1952 Mantle that always seemed to carry a premium to expected valuation. Of course, there's only a small number of cards that reach icon status. Wondering if you guys think the Brady Playoff Contenders is on the list?

I don't think it's so much the auto grade, but rather the post SB hangover period finally bringing cards back down from the peak. I've been tracking the SPA PSA 9s since the SB. Multiple sales at or over $40k+ for a few weeks, but the last one sold for only $32k+. Pretty big drop, but it's understandable as fatigue is setting in. Might be a good time to buy again when the post season lull fully kicks in.

gkc · 03-09-2021, 11:24 PM

Does anybody know if BGS is still grading the contenders? It looks like they are since one was graded about a month ago..

my question - if PSA won't grade it beyond authentication now (regardless of trimming and card size), why would anybody with an authentic copy not try to cross to BGS?

Anish · 03-09-2021, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gkc

Does anybody know if BGS is still grading the contenders? It looks like they are since one was graded about a month ago..

my question - if PSA won't grade it beyond authentication now (regardless of trimming and card size), why would anybody with an authentic copy not try to cross to BGS?

PSA is not grading them?

GrangerCollectr · 03-10-2021, 09:16 AM

I know it's not his rookie but was shocked and happy to see this go for over $5K last night

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Topps-...1/383994913264

Brian48 · 03-10-2021, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GrangerCollectr

I know it's not his rookie but was shocked and happy to see this go for over $5K last night

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Topps-...1/383994913264

The link wasn't working for me.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383994913264

Really not certain what dictates demand for these early chrome/refactors type cards. Some are highly desired, others (like Topps Finest) are only meh even in high grade. Seems all over the place.

gkc · 03-10-2021, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Anish

PSA is not grading them?

That is my understanding. I read that the contenders auto were cut at different lengths at the factory. Also, they didn't want any additional liability since this case
http://www.sportscardradio.com/card-...brady-rc-card/

Brian48 · 03-10-2021, 10:51 AM

They won't come out and admit that though. Oh they'll take the submissions. It's just that they're very quick to pull the N6 trigger if there's the slightest hint that the card is undersized (trimmed or not). They want the money, but not the headache or liability.

Also, for those cards that do pass muster with the MIN size, expect a lower grade than what you might get with BGS. You might have a card with a BGS sub-grade of 7 for example. If the other sub-grades are high enough, this elevates the overall grade to 8 or higher. More often than not, PSA will simply give you the lower sub-grade as the final grade.

Brian48 · 03-10-2021, 12:06 PM

Update! Over a Mil as of this date with 23 days left on the auction. Can't wait to see the final hammer price.

Lot # 1: 2000 Playoff Contenders Championship Rookie Ticket #144 Tom Brady Rookie Autograph 99/100 BGS NM-MT+ 8.5

Hellcat · 03-10-2021, 01:51 PM

Fractional companies have to be going bananas over this card to add to their portfolio.

jgb1219 · 03-10-2021, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian48

They won't come out and admit that though. Oh they'll take the submissions. It's just that they're very quick to pull the N6 trigger if there's the slightest hint that the card is undersized (trimmed or not). They want the money, but not the headache or liability.

Also, for those cards that do pass muster with the MIN size, expect a lower grade than what you might get with BGS. You might have a card with a BGS sub-grade of 7 for example. If the other sub-grades are high enough, this elevates the overall grade to 8 or higher. More often than not, PSA will simply give you the lower sub-grade as the final grade.

Do you think that implies that PSA graded versions will carry a premium, since there's a more limited universe of them? Or maybe interesting factoid, but no real difference in value?

Brian48 · 03-10-2021, 02:45 PM

No, I still think the PSA registry plays the biggest factor when it comes to graded cards across the board. That may change since there's fewer and fewer set collectors these days, especially for the modern cards.

As far as BGS is concerned, I think the sub grades do hurt in some cases and help in others. if I see a BGS 9.5 with a 9.5 for the corners or better yet, 9.5s for all the subs, I know it's just as good if not better than a PSA 10. If there's one 9 or below for any of the subs, I'd have to assess closer.

jasonm2121 · 03-10-2021, 03:20 PM

Trying to decide if I should retire or not.

jasonm2121 · 03-10-2021, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jgb1219

Do you think that implies that PSA graded versions will carry a premium, since there's a more limited universe of them? Or maybe interesting factoid, but no real difference in value?

PSA already carries a premium on these cards. I was checking the Champ Ticket pop and man, just about all are BGS, so there would likely be an additional premium on any PSA on that version, more than normal I would think.

hatchd · 03-10-2021, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonm2121

Trying to decide if I should retire or not.

This is what I was going to ask when I asked about your 8.5 earlier. $2M, even if I had to pay taxes on it, would get me really really close to retiring. Make it $3M and I'm there. While it might continue increasing in value I think I'd have to take the money and run.

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03-08-2021, 11:08 PM	#9601
daviswr7 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dagobah Posts: 7,554	This will go down as one of the worst pictures in the history of history, but a customer sent these pics to me today. Thoughts on authenticity?????...again sorry about the pics As it’s all I have to go off for now....Jersey number and all had me perking up...he’s going to bring it in on Thursday. I’ve bought some stuff from him before. All Legit so far... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by daviswr7; 03-08-2021 at 11:11 PM.

03-08-2021, 11:17 PM	#9603
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,476	No, of course it’s not real. These are all over eBay. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

03-09-2021, 01:28 PM	#9611
grayghost17 Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 163	..... Last edited by grayghost17; 03-09-2021 at 01:31 PM.

03-10-2021, 09:16 AM	#9615
GrangerCollectr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,374 millercrows millercrows31	I know it's not his rookie but was shocked and happy to see this go for over $5K last night https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Topps-...1/383994913264 __________________ *"If you're not having fun, you're probably doing it wrong"* Instagram - indy_card_collector

03-08-2021, 11:18 PM	#9606
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,601	Look at the back of the real one on eBay. Then look at the back of this one.......ah no

03-09-2021, 11:24 PM	#9613
gkc Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 18	Does anybody know if BGS is still grading the contenders? It looks like they are since one was graded about a month ago.. my question - if PSA won't grade it beyond authentication now (regardless of trimming and card size), why would anybody with an authentic copy not try to cross to BGS?

03-10-2021, 10:51 AM	#9618
Brian48 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 2,245	They won't come out and admit that though. Oh they'll take the submissions. It's just that they're very quick to pull the N6 trigger if there's the slightest hint that the card is undersized (trimmed or not). They want the money, but not the headache or liability. Also, for those cards that do pass muster with the MIN size, expect a lower grade than what you might get with BGS. You might have a card with a BGS sub-grade of 7 for example. If the other sub-grades are high enough, this elevates the overall grade to 8 or higher. More often than not, PSA will simply give you the lower sub-grade as the final grade.

03-10-2021, 12:06 PM	#9619
Brian48 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 2,245	Update! Over a Mil as of this date with 23 days left on the auction. Can't wait to see the final hammer price. Lot # 1: 2000 Playoff Contenders Championship Rookie Ticket #144 Tom Brady Rookie Autograph 99/100 BGS NM-MT+ 8.5

03-10-2021, 01:51 PM	#9620
Hellcat Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 2,502	Fractional companies have to be going bananas over this card to add to their portfolio.

03-10-2021, 02:45 PM	#9622
Brian48 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 2,245	No, I still think the PSA registry plays the biggest factor when it comes to graded cards across the board. That may change since there's fewer and fewer set collectors these days, especially for the modern cards. As far as BGS is concerned, I think the sub grades do hurt in some cases and help in others. if I see a BGS 9.5 with a 9.5 for the corners or better yet, 9.5s for all the subs, I know it's just as good if not better than a PSA 10. If there's one 9 or below for any of the subs, I'd have to assess closer.

03-10-2021, 03:20 PM	#9623
jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 12,027	Trying to decide if I should retire or not.