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Old 11-20-2016, 01:07 AM   #9576
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I'm still amazed at the prices the top SP singles and 1st appearance cards are bringing.

The Jake Arrieta came out of nowhere.
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Old 11-20-2016, 01:38 AM   #9577
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WOW.... I didn't even realize the Arrieta sold that well. The low print run Cubs are selling really well.
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Old 11-20-2016, 09:25 AM   #9578
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This is totally fortune telling out 10-20 years, but Trout is obviously a future hall of famer and one of the great ones. If Kris Bryant continues his path way and does close to the same, won't the first dual of these two potential greats be sought after hard?

And even more when their 1st card is a dual auto card celebrating their MVPs together? I'm obviously leaning one way, but I say this more so to generate discussion.

I almost bit on your discussion generator! Someone else do it please so I have something to read when I get back this evening!
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Old 11-20-2016, 10:32 AM   #9579
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Nice Armstrong..

Other considerations:

1. Has Topps, in its' 65th year, caught onto something huge with "Topps Now"? In 5 years, the morning after awards are announced, will we all be waiting for Topps Now Awards autos to be available, or is this a 1-3 year fad that fades away?
2. A long shot here, but could...could the 2016 Topps Now cards become akin to 1952 Topps, the "first edition" cards in a series that becomes a hobby standard?
3. If 1. And 2. Happen,does the Trout MVP "single" auto also turn into a huge card, as it is his first Topps Now single auto?
4. The Topps Now phenomenon will be something to follow in the coming years..the "digital age" says this may be huge for Topps. But as already stated, the Bryant/Trout dual auto will depend on the future: does Trout, with his 917 hits and 2 MVPs by age 25 play near this level until he's close to 40 and become the greatest player we have seen? Can Bryant become this century's Mike Schmidt? A lot of chapters are left on those careers..

But both players are off to a great start.

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Old 11-20-2016, 10:52 AM   #9580
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I think one possible downside is the card stock of these cards versus base Topps, Chrome, etc. I don't own any TN relics/autos but the base TN to me has a cheaper feel to it. I think if a dual Trout/Bryant is done in another product, that's a factor for me as a buyer. I think that brands like Chrome, Heritage, etc. have some rabid followers too.
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Old 11-20-2016, 11:32 AM   #9581
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Positive I have noticed on Topps Now: A lot of cards are selling. All kinds, older, newer, etc.

Negative: Way too many are selling for $4-$6.

Your thoughts?
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:03 PM   #9582
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Positive I have noticed on Topps Now: A lot of cards are selling. All kinds, older, newer, etc.

Negative: Way too many are selling for $4-$6.

Your thoughts?
This, in bold.
If I'm buying a popular player's card in multiple qttys, I become most definitely on the losing end of reselling due to below reasons.

1. I don't sell until the cards are in my hand, and by then, most of the presellers have sold at the bare minimum profit line already.

2. I never do economy shipping (always in secure bubble/padded mailer with tracking), so even if I sell the card itself at $4 with adding the shipping cost of $3.50, I'm already at loss considering the eBay fees and paypal fees.

Maybe I need to reconsider the way of shipping depending on a value of the individual card.
Or consider holding onto the cards a lot longer, so there is more value added as time goes on...
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:06 PM   #9583
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This, in bold.
If I'm buying a popular player's card in multiple qttys, I become most definitely on the losing end of reselling due to below reasons.

1. I don't sell until the cards are in my hand, and by then, most of the presellers have sold at the bare minimum profit line already.

2. I never do economy shipping (always in secure bubble/padded mailer with tracking), so even if I sell the card itself at $4 with adding the shipping cost of $3.50, I'm already at loss considering the eBay fees and paypal fees.

Maybe I need to reconsider the way of shipping depending on a value of the individual card.
Or consider holding onto the cards a lot longer, so there is more value added as time goes on...
I'm holding most of mine. I am not desperate to get my money back despite charging my card way too much.

I keep thinking etopps 2nd year when I think of Topps Now 2017. If this is the case, I will be doing quite well next year.

If not, I will be sitting on a ton of cards I can't profit from.

I look at the soccer. The PR of one of the cards is 34. If I can't make money on that, there is no way to make money!
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:11 PM   #9584
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I'm holding most of mine. I am not desperate to get my money back despite charging my card way too much.

I keep thinking etopps 2nd year when I think of Topps Now 2017. If this is the case, I will be doing quite well next year.

If not, I will be sitting on a ton of cards I can't profit from.

I look at the soccer. The PR of one of the cards is 34. If I can't make money on that, there is no way to make money!
Yeah, I'm actually not putting any of my Topps Now on eBay yet, except for some autos.
Maybe I will sell 1 or 2 of the multiples that I have which are currently selling well in the market, just to make some good money on the short term.
Cards like the Ichiro 3k will need a lot of time to develop on its value though. Maybe 10 years or so...
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Old 11-20-2016, 12:17 PM   #9585
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Yeah, I'm actually not putting any of my Topps Now on eBay yet, except for some autos.
Maybe I will sell 1 or 2 of the multiples that I have which are currently selling well in the market, just to make some good money on the short term.
Cards like the Ichiro 3k will need a lot of time to develop on its value though. Maybe 10 years or so...
I'm going back and forth trying to decide if now is the best time to sell the Hellickson and Russell that sell for way more than they should.

Tomorrow the market could drop like a rock or in May they could go through the roof (a la Tony Banks in etopps) so I'm torn. I only have one of each so it's no big deal. But bringing in $150 or so on the $13 investment is an attractive thought!
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:23 PM   #9586
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I'm pretty sure it's Blowout Buzz's job to put this up here, but...

"Is now the time to sell 2016 Topps Now sets? One dealer thinks so …"
https://blowoutbuzz.wordpress.com/20...ler-thinks-so/
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:42 PM   #9587
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I'm pretty sure it's Blowout Buzz's job to put this up here, but...

"Is now the time to sell 2016 Topps Now sets? One dealer thinks so …"
https://blowoutbuzz.wordpress.com/20...ler-thinks-so/
It will be shilled up to 10K. Thats my bet.
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:54 PM   #9588
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Positive I have noticed on Topps Now: A lot of cards are selling. All kinds, older, newer, etc.

Negative: Way too many are selling for $4-$6.

Your thoughts?
How is that a negative, considering at quantity pricing cards cost $4 each.

There is no way every card is going to be a $20+ card, but there are MANY in this set that are, and quite a few now that are $50 plus.

Topps Now has been my largest rate of return on investment as a business for all products in 2016, by far.
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Old 11-20-2016, 04:22 PM   #9589
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How is that a negative, considering at quantity pricing cards cost $4 each.

There is no way every card is going to be a $20+ card, but there are MANY in this set that are, and quite a few now that are $50 plus.

Topps Now has been my largest rate of return on investment as a business for all products in 2016, by far.
I don't think HadWaysTooMuch's comment was so inclined heavily on the negative side.
He is just stating that there are negative aspects to some card as well.

Not everyone is buying 20 cards value bundle all the time for every card.
And while the shipping is free from Topps, from us when reselling to customers are not.
So, if the card cost $4, and we sell with $4, there is at least the loss of eBay final fee, paypayl fee, and the shipping fee.

But such loss is much more limited than what we face in other products, so I also do believe there is more of the positive side to this program than the negative.

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Old 11-20-2016, 04:33 PM   #9590
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How is that a negative, considering at quantity pricing cards cost $4 each.

There is no way every card is going to be a $20+ card, but there are MANY in this set that are, and quite a few now that are $50 plus.

Topps Now has been my largest rate of return on investment as a business for all products in 2016, by far.
Of course not every card is going to skyrocket. The program has plenty of positives but when I see Kris Bryant cards for $5, it depresses me. When I see Addison Russell cards for $100, it makes me happy.

I've spent a pretty penny on these cards so I'm all in so to speak. But I will speak of both the positives and the negatives and am interested in other people's thoughts, so thank you for responding.

It'll be quite interesting to see how things pan out a year from today.
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Old 11-20-2016, 09:02 PM   #9591
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I'm pretty sure it's Blowout Buzz's job to put this up here, but...

"Is now the time to sell 2016 Topps Now sets? One dealer thinks so …"
https://blowoutbuzz.wordpress.com/20...ler-thinks-so/
And it ended without any bids in the last couple hours. Let's see if it gets paid for... or relisted.
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Old 11-20-2016, 09:43 PM   #9592
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And it ended without any bids in the last couple hours. Let's see if it gets paid for... or relisted.
He picked a wrong time for doing it. Can't get the most bang for your buck when the auction occurs so close to everyone spending so much money on World Series cards / relics / autos and MVP cards. Everyone is tapped out.
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Old 11-20-2016, 10:14 PM   #9593
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Wow... final price was only $4,594.50 for the set. If he only included cards 1-665, that would have just been $6.91 per card. He also included the all star cards and off season cards, so it is even lower per card. Ouch!
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Old 11-20-2016, 10:18 PM   #9594
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He picked a wrong time for doing it. Can't get the most bang for your buck when the auction occurs so close to everyone spending so much money on World Series cards / relics / autos and MVP cards. Everyone is tapped out.
And maybe people are saving up for Black Friday purchases, not only limited to baseball cards...
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Old 11-20-2016, 10:18 PM   #9595
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Wow... final price was only $4,594.50 for the set. If he only included cards 1-665, that would have just been $6.91 per card. He also included the all star cards and off season cards, so it is even lower per card. Ouch!
But how many of those were legit bids? I'm sure a few on this board helped it along. I bid $197.50... but never touched it after that. Was the 194 bidder legit? He bid like 25 times
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Old 11-20-2016, 10:21 PM   #9596
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And maybe people are saving up for Black Friday purchases, not only limited to baseball cards...
^ very true. Summer time before All Star Game is probably best time; or 1st Week of Baseball season in April.
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Wow... final price was only $4,594.50 for the set. If he only included cards 1-665, that would have just been $6.91 per card. He also included the all star cards and off season cards, so it is even lower per card. Ouch!
He actually made even less with those cards but what about all the top loaders and the ebay costs and paypal costs..If you asked me it's a dead loss...To early to sell...couldn't happen to a nicer guy superbowl34champs He is selling the full set here as a buy it now..

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Old 11-21-2016, 09:20 AM   #9598
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Got my Bryzzo last out of the world series base card yesterday. Awesome card. Unfortunately some peeling on the left side. Don't know if this is common.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:27 AM   #9599
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BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS PERSON HAD A PROBLEM WHEN HE USED HIS OTHER NAME superbowl34champs ...THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON...WATCH OUT
Will do thanks...didn't buy the set anyway.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:28 AM   #9600
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Got my Bryzzo last out of the world series base card yesterday. Awesome card. Unfortunately some peeling on the left side. Don't know if this is common.
Ask Topps via storehelp@topps.com for replacement.
The peeling issues did happen to a lot on the older cards, but I haven't seen those damages too often recently.
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