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Old 01-11-2021, 05:11 PM   #901
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This card will mirror Mantle.
Even PSA 1 and 2 Mantles are sky high.

With time, MJ rookie will be at that level. All grades will be high as hell and folks will have to settle for great looking low graded copies. Same for Bron TC and Brady Playoff. Just have to let time play out.

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Old 01-11-2021, 06:02 PM   #902
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That is what I have been doing since 2018. I have been selling Acuna, Soto, Trout, Luka, some Mahomes and reinvesting the profits in Jordan and Lebron.
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Like your style basically the only logical thing I could agree with....

Thanks!!!
Yep. Big fan of turning modern into GOATs

4 years ago I bought a 2013 Silver Giannis. I recently sold it and bought a PSA 8 Jordan RC. That was my plan once the Silver started to go up. If I had thought about it a few months ago I probably could have bought a PSA 9.

I don't have the nice stuff like pcp...but the Trouts, Giannis, Mahomes I do have will hopefully become more GOATs.
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:04 PM   #903
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Yep. Big fan of turning modern into GOATs

4 years ago I bought a 2013 Silver Giannis. I recently sold it and bought a PSA 8 Jordan RC. That was my plan once the Silver started to go up. If I had thought about it a few months ago I probably could have bought a PSA 9.

I don't have the nice stuff like pcp...but the Trouts, Giannis, Mahomes I do have will hopefully become more GOATs.
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:17 PM   #904
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Default 1987 , 2nd year MJ fleer

I think this card offers A TON of value.

I believe it was short printed, and yet the cost / entry point for the "everyman" collector is still there.

# 57, and the 84 star, and now the '86 sticker going BANANAS leaves us where ?????

as the original OP of this thread I've learned SO MUCH over the last 8 months,
thanks to ALL for their feedback.

this post is for the collector, much like myself, who really enjoys MJ cards, but does have budget limitations.

you can still get in a 6,7, or even 8 at a "relatively" affordable cost.

full disclosure: I have a handful, not gonna make me "rich" either way. LOL

"the train is beginning to leave the station on these", BUT ,their is VALUE.

as always, just my opinion. but, I think its an educated one. hope this helps
and adds to the Jordan discussion.

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Old 01-11-2021, 06:25 PM   #905
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I think this card offers A TON of value.

I believe it was short printed, and yet the cost / entry point for the "everyman" collector is still there.

# 57, and the 84 star, and now the '86 sticker going BANANAS leaves us where ?????

as the original OP of this thread I've learned SO MUCH over the last 8 months,
thanks to ALL for their feedback.

this post is for the collector, much like myself, who really enjoys MJ cards, but does have budget limitations.




you can still get in a 6,7, or even 8 at a "relatively" affordable cost.

full disclosure: I have a handful, not gonna make me "rich" either way. LOL

"the train is beginning to leave the station on these", BUT ,their is VALUE.

as always, just my opinion. but, I think its an educated one. hope this helps
and adds to the Jordan discussion.

Thanks Vintg for starting it. I was lucky enough to have found this forum back in April with all the shut downs of covid. Definitely a pleasure meeting others who have the same passion for #57. It has been a hell of a run up and this tread inspired me to add to my collection of #57 a few times already....I owe u a steak dinner Vintg,,,,
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:59 PM   #906
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Is there a good rule of thumb to estimate prices on a PSA 8.5? I always look at what the 8s are selling for and just assume I can get a little more than that. I don't even bother looking at the prices for 9s because I figure an 8.5 is much closer to an 8 than a 9 in terms of value.
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:00 PM   #907
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His PSA 9s (LeBron) are def climbing in last week or so.
I was recommending PSA 9's for $800-900 early last year to some members here when PSA 10's were hitting 4K. There was a huge premium difference between PSA 9 and PSA 10 at some point. I should have grabbed few myself at those prices

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Insane, I was checking comps earlier today because I've been considering moving my BGS 9.5, was pretty astounded to see the jump even in such a short period of time. I keep thinking man this bull can't keep running, and every time it seems to lose some giddy-up and then boom there it goes again. We shall see how corrections play out...
I would not be surprised if PSA 10's hit 25K by May.
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:02 PM   #908
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This!

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Old 01-11-2021, 08:22 PM   #909
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Thanks Vintg for starting it. I was lucky enough to have found this forum back in April with all the shut downs of covid. Definitely a pleasure meeting others who have the same passion for #57. It has been a hell of a run up and this tread inspired me to add to my collection of #57 a few times already....I owe u a steak dinner Vintg,,,,
thanks

congrats to you for "pulling the trigger".

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Old 01-11-2021, 08:31 PM   #910
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Is there a good rule of thumb to estimate prices on a PSA 8.5? I always look at what the 8s are selling for and just assume I can get a little more than that. I don't even bother looking at the prices for 9s because I figure an 8.5 is much closer to an 8 than a 9 in terms of value.

2nd year mj's , #59 if you will, 8.5's are reasonable at $ 750 - $ 850

(9's are just taking off north of 2.5k)

anyways, a bit of advice on ALL 2nd year jordans: I have seen smeared
black print ink on the middle E in fleer in the upper left corner.
on 7's and 8's. kind of blows my mind how that doesn't bring it down to a max 6.

also, I much prefer the top/bottom centering shift as opposed to the left to right. (similar to the #57)

6's are climbing ......to 275-350

7's are the biggest steal in the 350 range

8's have just started their climb 500-675

again, NOT blindly hitting BIN (or high bidder), really study the card.

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Old 01-11-2021, 08:44 PM   #911
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2nd year mj's , #59 if you will, 8.5's are reasonable at $ 750 - $ 850

(9's are just taking off north of 2.5k)

anyways, a bit of advice on ALL 2nd year jordans: I have seen smeared
black print ink on the middle E in fleer in the upper left corner.
on 7's and 8's. kind of blows my mind how that doesn't bring it down to a max 6.

also, I much prefer the top/bottom centering shift as opposed to the left to right. (similar to the #57)

6's are climbing ......to 275-350

7's are the biggest steal in the 350 range

8's have just started their climb 500-675

again, NOT blindly hitting BIN (or high bidder), really study the card.

VALUE
I picked up a BGS 8.5(with subs that add up to 35.5) a couple of weeks ago for $550 so I feel like I got a pretty good deal on it.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:01 PM   #912
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there was another psa 10 1986 sold on ebay today for 211,000....how does one buy a card or should I say make a transaction like this over ebay...I would only trust an auction house to make a large transaction like this one. counting i believe its either the 6th or 7th sold over 200k in the past two months....
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:42 PM   #913
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Zero feedback bidder hijacks the latest PSA 8.

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Old 01-11-2021, 10:44 PM   #914
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there was another psa 10 1986 sold on ebay today for 211,000....how does one buy a card or should I say make a transaction like this over ebay...I would only trust an auction house to make a large transaction like this one. counting i believe its either the 6th or 7th sold over 200k in the past two months....
I would personally fly to where the seller is and complete the transaction at his or her bank.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:45 PM   #915
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Zero feedback bidder hijacks the latest PSA 8.

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Doesn’t mean it’s bogus tons of new people coming into the hobby have to start somewhere.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:58 PM   #916
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Doesn’t mean it’s bogus tons of new people coming into the hobby have to start somewhere.
That bid came in 2 hours before the auction ended. Would you enter a bidding war with a zero feedback bidder on a $15k item? I would not.

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Old 01-11-2021, 11:14 PM   #917
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That bid came in 2 hours before the auction ended. Would you enter a bidding war with a zero feedback bidder on a $15k item? I would not.

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A 8 is bringing 15k??? You have got to be kidding me!
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Old 01-11-2021, 11:32 PM   #918
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A 8 is bringing 15k??? You have got to be kidding me!
You could almost get a 9 for that price a couple months ago. Insane!

Can't wait to see what the 2 PSA 9s go for next.
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Old 01-11-2021, 11:59 PM   #919
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You could almost get a 9 for that price a couple months ago. Insane!

Can't wait to see what the 2 PSA 9s go for next.
Me either...

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Old 01-12-2021, 12:28 AM   #920
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BGS 9.5 is worth no more than PSA 9
BGS grades sheet cut Fleer 86
BGS 9.5 to PSA Authentic

Will your next genius finding be BGS 10 fleer is worth no more than a PSA 10 or did you announce that already? I am kidding
Pcptrade the genius buys a BGS 9.5 for $37k then tries to cross to a PSA 10 but it comes back as PSA authentic lol.
I am kidding...
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Old 01-12-2021, 12:51 AM   #921
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Hi all - I've been saving up for this card for a while but I simply can't save fast enough! I ended up pulling the trigger on a PSA 4 for $3,500. Part of me feels embarrassed to share this, as I'm a collector who prides himself on having mostly immaculate cards but I'm a lifelong Jordan fan who's also wanted this card since the age of 7 so I feel like I had to get in while I still could. Unless I want to sell my used Prius... Hmm...
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Old 01-12-2021, 12:59 AM   #922
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Hi all - I've been saving up for this card for a while but I simply can't save fast enough! I ended up pulling the trigger on a PSA 4 for $3,500. Part of me feels embarrassed to share this, as I'm a collector who prides himself on having mostly immaculate cards but I'm a lifelong Jordan fan who's also wanted this card since the age of 7 so I feel like I had to get in while I still could. Unless I want to sell my used Prius... Hmm...
Imagine the shape you'd be in if you had to ride a bike everywhere.

Prius? Jordan??


Grats on the 4.
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Old 01-12-2021, 01:18 AM   #923
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Hi all - I've been saving up for this card for a while but I simply can't save fast enough! I ended up pulling the trigger on a PSA 4 for $3,500. Part of me feels embarrassed to share this, as I'm a collector who prides himself on having mostly immaculate cards but I'm a lifelong Jordan fan who's also wanted this card since the age of 7 so I feel like I had to get in while I still could. Unless I want to sell my used Prius... Hmm...
Nothing wrong with a fantastic 4!

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Old 01-12-2021, 02:04 AM   #924
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This card will mirror Mantle.
Even PSA 1 and 2 Mantles are sky high.

With time, MJ rookie will be at that level. All grades will be high as hell and folks will have to settle for great looking low graded copies. Same for Bron TC and Brady Playoff. Just have to let time play out.

*My personal humble opinion.

Hey I got one of those! Nothing else really to add to this convo....




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Old 01-12-2021, 07:01 AM   #925
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Pcptrade the genius buys a BGS 9.5 for $37k then tries to cross to a PSA 10 but it comes back as PSA authentic lol.
I am kidding...
You don't have to be a genius to make money in sports cards. All you need is common sense and lack of delusional thinking! I acquired my Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 for 37.5K and made a 20K (50%) paper profit in two weeks. Better yet, I acquired it in a 100% trade deal. I traded a Trout and Soto RC for my Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 and my cost basis on Trout and Soto cards was 6K. I am glad that I was able to turn 6K into 60K in two years. Imagine if I had delusional thinking (BGS 9.5 is worth no more than PSA 9) like you
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