Westbrook in straight beast mode again... - Page 37

Round Mound · 01-08-2017, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Eric Gordon.

Harden does not make Eric Gordon better (BTW, it is a very short list of playerS). Gordon is just back to his younger self after a couple of injury-filled seasons!

duron · 01-08-2017, 06:30 PM

^ I've always loved Gordon. People's memories are very, very short.

Crazy recent game again from Westbrook, but again, it's funny that the media didn't really celebrate it as much just because he was a couple rebounds and passes away from a triple double.

The best was how Westbrook himself said he was sick and tired of the triple double talk. Pretty funny timing since that's what this thread really devolved into for pages and pages.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Mound

Harden does not make Eric Gordon better (BTW, it is a very short list of playerS). Gordon is just back to his younger self after a couple of injury-filled seasons!

Only "a couple" injury filled seasons?

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

Just curious...why do you come to this thread? Just to continually say how much of a ballhog westbrook is? There's a Harden is Better than Westbrook thread, there's a Who Will Win MVP thread, there's even a When's a good time to sell Westbrook thread, where you can shout to the moon how Russ isn't great or whatever. Obviously you don't like him and I'm assuming you're a Warrior fan because I think I've seen ya post in that thread. Doesn't it annoy you when people troll that thread after every loss? I guess I just don't understand why people go to threads to crap all over fans of a player when they are just simply enjoying the season Russ is having. (and I think it's equally annoying for people to troll the Warriors thread to and I'm not a fan of them) Nobody is saying OKC Finals, or anything, in a pretty mundane predictable season where odds are it's Cleveland vs the Warriors again, it's nice to see the kind of games Harden and Russ are both putting up on a nightly basis. I know you can post whereever you want, I was just curious why this thread?

I think Westbrook is ridiculously overrated and I like to remind everyone the guy is a ridiculous ballhog. This guy is a bigger ballhog than peak Kobe.

deemsterz33 · 01-08-2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I think Westbrook is ridiculously overrated and I like to remind everyone the guy is a ridiculous ballhog. This guy is a bigger ballhog than peak Kobe.

That's an opinion not based in fact. You're full of those.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

That's an opinion not based in fact. You're full of those.

The former is absolutely opinion, the latter is 100% fact.

deemsterz33 · 01-08-2017, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

The former is absolutely opinion, the latter is 100% fact.

Please explain away the 10.3 assists per game, 2nd in the league in that category.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Please explain away the 10.3 assists per game, 2nd in the league.

His usage rate this year is 4% higher than the next highest individual season for a player in the last 25 years?

deemsterz33 · 01-08-2017, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

His usage rate this year is 4% higher than the next highest individual season for a player in the last 25 years?

His assists to usage rate dwarfs anyone on that list. Please explain that.

tennelson55 · 01-08-2017, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Mound

Harden does not make Eric Gordon better (BTW, it is a very short list of playerS). Gordon is just back to his younger self after a couple of injury-filled seasons!

Have you watched Eric Gordon's game, at all?
Gordon is a shooter. He's a pure breed shooter who is limited at driving to the basket. He's not ryan Anderson immobile, but he defiantly isn't a shot creator. Gordon is also injury prone and I think him being a shooter will help his injury/career output.
This season Gordon is averaging 3.8 three made per game on a .418 average shooting 3 pt percentage. It's his most threes taken per game on a season to season basis, but he's drilling them at a higher clip overall. His average is .387 3pt shooting average and making nearly 30 more per 1000 is a lot.

In all, I think Gordon is doing much more for his team when harden is ok the court with him.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

His assists to usage rate dwarfs anyone on that list. Please explain that.

He's forced to pass when he drives into the lane at times.

Having a high assist total doesn't negate being a ballhog. Kobe was a ballhog and averaged 5 assists per game for his career. Allen Iverson was a ballhog and averaged 6 assists per game for his career. Ballhogs can usually rack up assists, not quite the level of Westbrook, but I have my own thoughts on that.

deemsterz33 · 01-08-2017, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

He's forced to pass when he drives into the lane at times.

Having a high assist total doesn't negate being a ballhog. Kobe was a ballhog and averaged 5 assists per game for his career. Allen Iverson was a ballhog and averaged 6 assists per game for his career. Ballhogs can usually rack up assists, not quite the level of Westbrook, but I have my own thoughts on that.

Do those thoughts start out with: "I don't like Russell Westbrook"?

5 or 6 assists per game isn't racking up assists.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Do those thoughts start out with: "I don't like Russell Westbrook"?

No, I think he stat hunts though.

deemsterz33 · 01-08-2017, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

No, I think he stat hunts though.

If anything that would be on the rebound front, not assists.

Which is it on the assists? He passes the ball to hunt stats, or passes the ball because he is a ball-hog who is only forced to because he didn't have an open shot in the lane? Those are two totally different basketball scenarios.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

If anything that would be on the rebound front, not assists.

Which is it on the assists? He passes the ball to hunt stats, or passes the ball because he is a ball-hog who is only forced to because he didn't have an open shot in the lane? Those are two totally different basketball scenarios.

It can be both, bud.

deemsterz33 · 01-08-2017, 11:09 PM

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It can be both, bud.

You spout your opinions like they're truth.

I get the feeling you don't watch any OKC games.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

You spout your opinions like they're truth.

I get the feeling you don't watch any OKC games.

A lot of people take what I say that way, it happens.

deemsterz33 · 01-08-2017, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

A lot of people take what I say that way, it happens.

Your narrative is actually this: "I don't like Russell Westbrook. I failed to invest in him, so it's a bit frustrating to watch his cards triple in price since the beginning of the year. Although there are no actual facts that support my claims, I'm still going to push my anti-WB agenda in any way I can, to hopefully, even minutely, devalue the unprecedented accomplishments of his this year."

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Your narrative is actually this: "I don't like Russell Westbrook. I failed to invest in him, so it's a bit frustrating to watch his cards triple in price since the beginning of the year. Although there are no actual facts that support my claims, I'm still going to push my anti-WB agenda in any way I can, to hopefully, even minutely, devalue the unprecedented accomplishments of his this year."

You think I'm mad because I didn't invest in his cards? I don't 'invest' in cards, the closest I've come is having a PC for Draymond Green that I sold because his stuff blew up, but I could care less that I didn't bank on his cards. LMAO

Nice talk, bud.

tjforce · 01-08-2017, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Your narrative is actually this: "I don't like Russell Westbrook. I failed to invest in him, so it's a bit frustrating to watch his cards triple in price since the beginning of the year. Although there are no actual facts that support my claims, I'm still going to push my anti-WB agenda in any way I can, to hopefully, even minutely, devalue the unprecedented accomplishments of his this year."

Dude, it does no good arguing this guy with logic.

Best case scenario is you clearly prove your point and he goes away for a while, like he did after Game 7 last year.

JustinVerlander07 · 01-08-2017, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Dude, it does no good arguing this guy with logic.

Best case scenario is you clearly prove your point and he goes away for a while, like he did after Game 7 last year.

"His usage rate is historically high, he's not a ballhog though!!"

You Westbrook fans....

Chris P · 01-08-2017, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I think Westbrook is ridic. Lously overrated and I like to remind everyone the guy is a ridiculous ballhog. This guy is a bigger ballhog than peak Kobe.

Well I guess if it makes you feel better to crap over his fans every chance you get..go nuts i guess..seems like a waste of time here since the majority in this thread like him..but keep fighting the good fight

tjforce · 01-08-2017, 11:37 PM

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Well I guess if it makes you feel better to crap over his fans every chance you get..go nuts i guess..seems like a waste of time here since the majority in this thread like him..but keep fighting the good fight

Seems to me like it's the Michigan State-Michigan inferiority complex. Always something to prove.

Common around East Lansing.

Chris P · 01-08-2017, 11:41 PM

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Seems to me like it's the Michigan State-Michigan inferiority complex. Always something to prove.

Common around East Lansing.

Guess so...i agree with you though..the serious best thing to do is ignore him and people like him. Its not like arguing will ever change his mind. Let him have his fun reminding us how much Westbrook is overrated every day and just ignore it. He wants the reaction. Its cliche but he wins when you respond to his posts

ninjacookies · 01-09-2017, 02:49 AM

Tis ironic much of the Westbrook criticisms in this thread happen to be coming from Golden State fans. Whom, ironically enough, now seem to tout Durant as being a Demigod of sorts and leagues better from an individual standpoint based on 'team' record comparisons.

The same guy who bricked like 4 free throws in the final 2 minutes against Memphis.

This is some fun rhetoric.

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duron Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 12,006 drewtang duron	^ I've always loved Gordon. People's memories are very, very short. Crazy recent game again from Westbrook, but again, it's funny that the media didn't really celebrate it as much just because he was a couple rebounds and passes away from a triple double. The best was how Westbrook himself said he was sick and tired of the triple double talk. Pretty funny timing since that's what this thread really devolved into for pages and pages. __________________ IG: Darz90sCardz PC: MJ/Penny

01-09-2017, 02:49 AM	#925
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,397	Tis ironic much of the Westbrook criticisms in this thread happen to be coming from Golden State fans. Whom, ironically enough, now seem to tout Durant as being a Demigod of sorts and leagues better from an individual standpoint based on 'team' record comparisons. The same guy who bricked like 4 free throws in the final 2 minutes against Memphis. This is some fun rhetoric.