Vladimir Guerrero, Jr.

[Flkrsn5]

I personally think his NNO is his true RC. Sure, it’s an “SP,” but is it really? I pulled afew myself and didn’t buy a ton of it. It’s a RC without a number, and to me will be his true RC, chrome or not.

[imbluestreak23]

He has RISEN!

[BigSlim16]

His 2020 Topps rookie cup stuff is still very cheap

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by Flkrsn5

I personally think his NNO is his true RC. Sure, it’s an “SP,” but is it really? I pulled afew myself and didn’t buy a ton of it. It’s a RC without a number, and to me will be his true RC, chrome or not.

And it doesn’t matter if it’s an SP. That doesn’t preclude it from being a true RC.

But “true RC” is sort of arbitrary. If a card is rookie-year and it’s highly desirable/expensive to acquire, it doesn’t really matter how its rookie-ness is defined.


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[Redbandit]

Agreed - it’s his “first “ rookie , has the RC shield, and is an SP


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[ThoseBackPages]

if you (generic you, not pointing anyone out) collect Flagship RCs, then the NNO is the one for you

[Flkrsn5]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

And it doesn’t matter if it’s an SP. That doesn’t preclude it from being a true RC.

But “true RC” is sort of arbitrary. If a card is rookie-year and it’s highly desirable/expensive to acquire, it doesn’t really matter how its rookie-ness is defined.


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So if Topps made a Topps Now RC of a player would that be their “true RC?” What RC is Ke’Bryan Hayes’ true RC to have? It is definitely arbitrary. At what point do we draw the line?

Edit: This isn’t me arguing that fact, just simply asking the question because though I think there is difference between a RC being the one to have vs. their “true RC” inserted into products and print run having something to do with it at some point.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Flkrsn5

So if Topps made a Topps Now RC of a player would that be their “true RC?” What RC is Ke’Bryan Hayes’ true RC to have? It is definitely arbitrary. At what point do we draw the line?

Edit: This isn’t me arguing that fact, just simply asking the question because though I think there is difference between a RC being the one to have vs. their “true RC” inserted into products and print run having something to do with it at some point.

That's a clown question bruh!



I actually dig the card.

[zac949]

What a night!!!

I’m still holding strong and won’t be selling anything off until he hits Tatis+ levels. I sold way too early on Mookie Betts and I don’t want to make the same mistake twice. Here’s a small example of some of the Mookie I once owned. I had a second Orange Wave /5 BGS 9.5/10 and a few more BGS 10 colored autos.



Here are some of my graded Vlad parallels and a few ungraded autos.

[Flkrsn5]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

That's a clown question bruh!



I actually dig the card.

Lol!!!

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by Flkrsn5

So if Topps made a Topps Now RC of a player would that be their “true RC?” What RC is Ke’Bryan Hayes’ true RC to have? It is definitely arbitrary. At what point do we draw the line?

Edit: This isn’t me arguing that fact, just simply asking the question because though I think there is difference between a RC being the one to have vs. their “true RC” inserted into products and print run having something to do with it at some point.

For me, there’s no need to draw a line, other than around all the rookie-year cards with RC logos, and then you choose the card(s) you want.

I’m a big believer in the NNO—I have about 50 of them—but there are just so many options and so many levels of card (from a Topps Big League base to a Topps Chrome superfractor or US1 platinum), that I don’t think “true RC” or “the card to have” are applicable as definitive labels for any particular cards. (At least, in the last few years this is the case. The further you go back in time, the less murky the picture). Whether the card is the first to dawn an RC, or it’s a flagship or Topps Chrome base, it’s still just one of hundreds of options.

For instance, Acuna and Gleyber have cards in ‘18 Stadium Club that are technically SP photo variations. They don’t have base cards in the set, and these SP’s aren’t exactly embraced as true rookie cards. I couldn’t care less. They’re awesome rookie-year cards with print runs around 250-300. I’d rather have those than their Topps S2 cards. I still have the S2 cards because they’re great collectibles, but I appreciate the Stadium Clubs more.

Yeah, the most popular card that’s widely available is one way to identify the card to have, but that’s more the safe, cover-your-bases approach. In today’s market, with so many quality options, we have the luxury of choosing what we want and still ending up with a great card brimming with value potential.




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[MiamiMarlinsFan]

I believed in the Vlady breakout this year, but for some reason didn’t act much on it. I added this guy (see pic) to go with my TC RC PSA 10, but sadly, that was it.

[Rabs]

Vladdy the not so Fatty is good!

[Akphillips86]

I had told myself I was done buying any cards for a while. Last night from Vlad brought out the FOMO as well as my credit card out of hibernation for a quick purchase before his stuff gets too silly.

Nothing big, but picked up a 2019 Topps Update Auto 1984 PSA 9 150th Anniversary /150 for $250. Wish I would have went with my gut (no offense meant to the old Vlad Jr.) and picked up a few things in the offseason.


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[shortstopguy12]

I agree... and there is some nice stuff. I only have 2 really nice ones, and the higher end stuff will probably not be affordable for me anymore, so I’m probably done

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

His 2020 Topps rookie cup stuff is still very cheap

[tblood]

Originally Posted by zac949

What a night!!!

I’m still holding strong and won’t be selling anything off until he hits Tatis+ levels. I sold way too early on Mookie Betts and I don’t want to make the same mistake twice. Here’s a small example of some of the Mookie I once owned. I had a second Orange Wave /5 BGS 9.5/10 and a few more BGS 10 colored autos.



Here are some of my graded Vlad parallels and a few ungraded autos.

Wow


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[dmanrico]

It really is surprising to me how many people are dumping Vlad cards right now.

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by dmanrico

It really is surprising to me how many people are dumping Vlad cards right now.

FOMP

Fear Of Missing Profit

Very shortsighted in my opinion.

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by dmanrico

It really is surprising to me how many people are dumping Vlad cards right now.

Keep it coming so I can keep buying!

[dmanrico]

Originally Posted by gmoney328

FOMP

Fear Of Missing Profit

Very shortsighted in my opinion.

Totally agree. I know that many on BO promote the “you never lose money taking profit” adage, but this ignores what you then do with the money after selling. If you’re taking it and using it for life, then I get it. If you’re sinking it back into cards however, then selling to take profit could be a bad decision. You have to compare the performance of the new card you’re buying vs keeping it invested in the current card. And wow, I can’t think of many other modern cards I’d rather have than Vlad cards right now.

[ddearing]

Originally Posted by Robles Fan

Is there any realistic possibility that Vlad’s NNO RC could end up being the same equivalent to Acuna’s bat down RC if his stuff ends up skyrocketing?

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

20k Acunas
100k NNOs

...you can take a guess from here.

Understood, and not disagreeing, but currently PSA 10's of the Acuna bat down are around $3,000 and the Vlad NNO are around $225 (and were consistently $100 all off season). I think there is still lots of room to run for the Vladdy (maybe for both).

It's worth remembering that a large percentage of collectors don't own a card worth $3000, but may own lots of cards in the $300-$500 range.

[Clause37]

I was considering selling off some Nno's with soft corners with the spike, but I don't think we're anywhere near the current peak.

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by ddearing

Understood, and not disagreeing, but currently PSA 10's of the Acuna bat down are around $3,000 and the Vlad NNO are around $225 (and were consistently $100 all off season). I think there is still lots of room to run for the Vladdy (maybe for both).

It's worth remembering that a large percentage of collectors don't own a card worth $3000, but may own lots of cards in the $300-$500 range.

Agreed. I could see the NNO being a $500-700 card in PSA 10.

Not to mention how difficult they are to grade a 10.

[baseballmitts]

Originally Posted by Clause37

I was considering selling off some Nno's with soft corners with the spike, but I don't think we're anywhere near the current peak.

I wouldn't want to be selling soft corners at the peak for any card. With eBay's return policy that's just begging for returns when it starts to drop down in value.

[BigSlim16]

HODL!! I really think we're just scratching the surface on where his prices could go