2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by sonnyday

Is it possible to the emails were fabricated by the organization that stole them? How do you produce originals of fake items?

If someone a Russian thug stole your car. Would you let him watch your kids?

Not sure why no one is questioning the authenticity or ethics of a group that steals.

Cry me a river... maybe if Hillary had not deleted 33,000 emails she would be able to defend herself.

Hillary deserves zero benefit of the doubt in my opinion.

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by sonnyday

Assange is a criminal who belongs behind bars, now people are believing everything this guy shovels out. Huge error in judgement.

Then he and Hillary have quite a bit in common.

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Rumors are that the US is on the door step of getting Asange from the Embassy, so something big might go down tonight.

This sounds so Clinton Conspiracy-like. Asange has likely offloaded what he has to multiple sources just in case of something like this.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

then he and hillary have quite a bit in common.

Trump! Trump! Trump!

[sonnyday]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Wikileaks has never been into the "smear" business. They do the simple job of exposing government corruption as it is. It's clear that Hillarys camp knew these were real, hence the immediate blame on Russia and not a single denial yet of authenticity in weeks now.

Hard to expose government with altered emails from the Russians.

And multiple questions about their authenticity.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...mocrats-229707

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by sonnyday

Hard to expose government with altered emails from the Russians.

And multiple questions about their authenticity.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...mocrats-229707

HAIL MARY!

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[preakness]

Marlin man!

[sonnyday]

Originally Posted by Astros19

HAIL MARY!

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Hey they may be real, they may be fake. I am not saying either. I am just saying you are trusting documents that have been stolen, then changed hands from the people that stole them then handed to Wikileaks.

Yeahhhhhhh....this is totally legit. Lol.

[sonnyday]

My facebook feed is interesting...not to many political posts fortunately. But the two main trump supporters are my wife's hiiljack uncle who downs a fifth of jack Daniels a day, and some kid who grew up on my street and was infamous in my hometown for driving through the middle of town with a boot on his car.

Funny stuff.

[37Jetson]

How deep did Hillary's deletions of the emails go? Were they deleted from all of the computers and servers of the people sending and receiving them? Has this question ever been answered.

[Astros19]

Weren't some of the devices destroyed using a hammer?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I'm sure most everyone does that on a regular basis.



^^^^^^^^^^
Sarcasm.

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[tke1600]

Originally Posted by sonnyday

My facebook feed is interesting...not to many political posts fortunately. But the two main trump supporters are my wife's hiiljack uncle who downs a fifth of jack Daniels a day, and some kid who grew up on my street and was infamous in my hometown for driving through the middle of town with a boot on his car.

Funny stuff.

I think you are confusing some of us with others, but many just don't want a globalist criminal running our country with her cronies.

[natbornkiller]

Originally Posted by sonnyday

Hey they may be real, they may be fake. I am not saying either. I am just saying you are trusting documents that have been stolen, then changed hands from the people that stole them then handed to Wikileaks.

Yeahhhhhhh....this is totally legit. Lol.

curious what were you saying about 2 weeks ago with trumps tax info leak?

[houdini]

[vwnut13]

[tacoma34]

Originally Posted by tke1600

I think you are confusing some of us with others, but many just don't want a globalist criminal running our country with her cronies.

Your posts are awesome and dead on.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Wikileaks says Assange had his Internet severed by a state party. Not surprised. The Clinton corruption truly is Worldwide.

[phosgene]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Wikileaks has never been into the "smear" business. They do the simple job of exposing government corruption as it is. It's clear that Hillarys camp knew these were real, hence the immediate blame on Russia and not a single denial yet of authenticity in weeks now.

this is just incorrect. are these email leaks their work product? that is, did they hack the accounts themselves, or were these leaks provided by a source? now when a newspaper gets a leak from a source they will either identify the source, or be able to vouch for the source being someone in a position to know if anonymity is required. in most cases they will try to independently confirm the information provided by the source.

pretty sure these leaks were provided by a source and that source has an agenda. the leaks were not immediately disclosed. so they are clearly NOT exposing government corruption "as it is" they are exposing leaks obtained from a source with an agenda on a timetable that appears to be dictated by the source with an agenda. whether any emails have been altered is not known.

while they may have never been "into the 'smear' business" it appears that they are in it now. being spoonfed by putin to help elect putin's boy. pretty clear what this is. how else do you explain the republican nominee for president carrying water for putin at EVERY OPPORTUNITY like vladimir has kidnapped tiffany trump and is threatening to kill her. (btw, anybody seen tiffany?) trump says russia is bombing isis in syria. the guy is getting briefed, so that is a blatant LIE. never thought i would live to see the day when a russian president would OWN the REPUBLICAN nominee. the commies were supposed to be the democrats right?

[phosgene]

so not only does trump continually insist that russia and syria are "fighting isis" which is a lie, but in the last debate he insisted that he was smarter than all the generals and that there should be a "sneak attack" on mosul, a city with possibly 1 million civilians in it.

this guy has no clue about anything. in the debate he said he could think of "no reason" why there were constant press reports about the buildup to attack the isis held city. when the debate moderator, a woman who has covered the pentagon for most of her adult life suggested there may be very good reasons for it, he rejected it out of hand.
on top of that, he suggested that one of his first acts as president would be moving to put his opponent in jail. this would inject a bolus of poison into our politics not seen since the kansas-nebraska act.

the guy is just categorically disqualified. it's time to stop pretending like trump is a viable choice. everybody moaning about how corrupt hillary is and they're pretending that a guy in real estate development in one of the most crooked cities on the planet (especially in the 70s,80s) is as pure as the wind driven snow. a casino operator in new jersey no less. he's corrupt, clueless and so thin skinned he should be in therapy.

only one person running that actually knows how to do the job well. she only held one elected position, senator from new york and there isn't an honest soul who wouldn't tell you that she worked her butt off, including republicans.

from an anecdote relayed by joe scarborough on "morning joe": joe klien, author, is interviewing general david patreus for a book in the time that the us was undertaking "the surge". he asks patreus, "who knows the most about what you're having to do in iraq?" the response from patreus, "you mean other than hillary clinton?" in his opinion, no other person was on her level.

so if you want a president that actually understands what they're being told and can make informed decisions, there is only one choice in the election. that's just a simple fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB1ynO2Bfvo

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by phosgene

this is just incorrect. are these email leaks their work product? that is, did they hack the accounts themselves, or were these leaks provided by a source? now when a newspaper gets a leak from a source they will either identify the source, or be able to vouch for the source being someone in a position to know if anonymity is required. in most cases they will try to independently confirm the information provided by the source.

pretty sure these leaks were provided by a source and that source has an agenda. the leaks were not immediately disclosed. so they are clearly NOT exposing government corruption "as it is" they are exposing leaks obtained from a source with an agenda on a timetable that appears to be dictated by the source with an agenda. whether any emails have been altered is not known.

while they may have never been "into the 'smear' business" it appears that they are in it now. being spoonfed by putin to help elect putin's boy. pretty clear what this is. how else do you explain the republican nominee for president carrying water for putin at EVERY OPPORTUNITY like vladimir has kidnapped tiffany trump and is threatening to kill her. (btw, anybody seen tiffany?) trump says russia is bombing isis in syria. the guy is getting briefed, so that is a blatant LIE. never thought i would live to see the day when a russian president would OWN the REPUBLICAN nominee. the commies were supposed to be the democrats right?

Here is the thing. These people are suppose to work for the Ametican people. They receive a paycheck from Americans. They are suppose to save all work related emails. They did not. They are being exposed for the corrupt idiots they are. Who cares who havked them. It is the content of the emails that matters.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by phosgene

this is just incorrect. are these email leaks their work product? that is, did they hack the accounts themselves, or were these leaks provided by a source? now when a newspaper gets a leak from a source they will either identify the source, or be able to vouch for the source being someone in a position to know if anonymity is required. in most cases they will try to independently confirm the information provided by the source.

pretty sure these leaks were provided by a source and that source has an agenda. the leaks were not immediately disclosed. so they are clearly NOT exposing government corruption "as it is" they are exposing leaks obtained from a source with an agenda on a timetable that appears to be dictated by the source with an agenda. whether any emails have been altered is not known.

while they may have never been "into the 'smear' business" it appears that they are in it now. being spoonfed by putin to help elect putin's boy. pretty clear what this is. how else do you explain the republican nominee for president carrying water for putin at EVERY OPPORTUNITY like vladimir has kidnapped tiffany trump and is threatening to kill her. (btw, anybody seen tiffany?) trump says russia is bombing isis in syria. the guy is getting briefed, so that is a blatant LIE. never thought i would live to see the day when a russian president would OWN the REPUBLICAN nominee. the commies were supposed to be the democrats right?

Here is the thing. These people are suppose to work for the American people. They receive a paycheck from Americans. They are suppose to save all work related emails. They did not. They are being exposed for the corrupt idiots they are. Who cares who hacked them. It is the content of the emails that matters.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by phosgene

so not only does trump continually insist that russia and syria are "fighting isis" which is a lie, but in the last debate he insisted that he was smarter than all the generals and that there should be a "sneak attack" on mosul, a city with possibly 1 million civilians in it.

this guy has no clue about anything. in the debate he said he could think of "no reason" why there were constant press reports about the buildup to attack the isis held city. when the debate moderator, a woman who has covered the pentagon for most of her adult life suggested there may be very good reasons for it, he rejected it out of hand.
on top of that, he suggested that one of his first acts as president would be moving to put his opponent in jail. this would inject a bolus of poison into our politics not seen since the kansas-nebraska act.

the guy is just categorically disqualified. it's time to stop pretending like trump is a viable choice. everybody moaning about how corrupt hillary is and they're pretending that a guy in real estate development in one of the most crooked cities on the planet (especially in the 70s,80s) is as pure as the wind driven snow. a casino operator in new jersey no less. he's corrupt, clueless and so thin skinned he should be in therapy.

only one person running that actually knows how to do the job well. she only held one elected position, senator from new york and there isn't an honest soul who wouldn't tell you that she worked her butt off, including republicans.

from an anecdote relayed by joe scarborough on "morning joe": joe klien, author, is interviewing general david patreus for a book in the time that the us was undertaking "the surge". he asks patreus, "who knows the most about what you're having to do in iraq?" the response from patreus, "you mean other than hillary clinton?" in his opinion, no other person was on her level.

so if you want a president that actually understands what they're being told and can make informed decisions, there is only one choice in the election. that's just a simple fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB1ynO2Bfvo

Being qualified or unqualified is a moot point.
What she and her ungodly party stands for is the issue for many.
Doesn't matter that Trump is an idiot - the big picture is what's at stake.

I will hold my nose and vote for Trump (against Clinton).

[phosgene]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Here is the thing. These people are suppose to work for the American people. They receive a paycheck from Americans. They are suppose to save all work related emails. They did not. They are being exposed for the corrupt idiots they are. Who cares who hacked them. It is the content of the emails that matters.

this is just incorrect. the most recent story is about the hacking of john podesta's private email account and his secrets for making risotto are not "work related". they are emails written by campaign people about optics and messaging, etc. podesta was never a state dept employee.

not aware that it has been established that hillary or any other state department employee definitely did not turn over a work related email. i know it burns you up that the highest unelected official in the government got to independently determine which of her emails were private and delete them, but that's what happened.

in the words of shark tank's kevin o'leary, "this is a nothingburger". you could have 17 more congressional investigations and an impeachment, which is all but certain. bupkis is all that will be produced.

not that the republicans give a rip about the truth. all they wanted to do was bring her numbers down so they could defeat her in 2016. but their voters outsmarted them and nominated the one person in america (perhaps besides OJ) that americans disapprove of more than hillary. and she will thank you from the bottom of her heart.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by phosgene

this is just incorrect. the most recent story is about the hacking of john podesta's private email account and his secrets for making risotto are not "work related". they are emails written by campaign people about optics and messaging, etc. podesta was never a state dept employee.

not aware that it has been established that hillary or any other state department employee definitely did not turn over a work related email. i know it burns you up that the highest unelected official in the government got to independently determine which of her emails were private and delete them, but that's what happened.

in the words of shark tank's kevin o'leary, "this is a nothingburger". you could have 17 more congressional investigations and an impeachment, which is all but certain. bupkis is all that will be produced.

not that the republicans give a rip about the truth. all they wanted to do was bring her numbers down so they could defeat her in 2016. but their voters outsmarted them and nominated the one person in america (perhaps besides OJ) that americans disapprove of more than hillary. and she will thank you from the bottom of her heart.

I just want the truth about what our government is doing.Why is it ok for the government to read our emails, but we cant read theirs?

[oldgoldy97]

Wikileaks will soon overtake the Bible as the conservative go to reading material.