SMH Messages on eBay

[YouFold2Me]

What do you guys do when the seller charges $6.00 for shipping a single top loaded card and then ships PWE?

[mogwai316]

Originally Posted by YouFold2Me

What do you guys do when the seller charges $6.00 for shipping a single top loaded card and then ships PWE?

If the listing said that it would be shipped PWE / ESE then I do nothing cause I agreed to pay the shipping cost and it was shipped as advertised.

If the listing said that it would be shipped bubble mailer / ground advantage / priority etc. then I get pissed off but as long as the card made it to me safely, then I don't bother saying anything about it and just make a note to never buy from them again.

[Sonnys88]

Originally Posted by YouFold2Me

What do you guys do when the seller charges $6.00 for shipping a single top loaded card and then ships PWE?

I calculate shipping into my purchase price, so the seller can specify whatever shipping charge they want and ship it however they want. As long as the item gets to me in the condition as described, I don't care.

[majestik101]

Received a $50 offer yesterday on a card I have up for $499 o/b/o

Those are always fun

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by YouFold2Me

What do you guys do when the seller charges $6.00 for shipping a single top loaded card and then ships PWE?

I figure shipping into the total I am willing to pay. Generally as long as item arrives safely I don't care. Sometimes I might point it out to seller but move on with life after that

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by YouFold2Me

What do you guys do when the seller charges $6.00 for shipping a single top loaded card and then ships PWE?

Depends...if the listing said BMWT for $6...get annoyed...I've sent messages and had some refund me the difference (not really the point as I paid for the BMWT to protect the card), but others indignantly maintain it's to cover their costs (envelopes, tape, gas, "their time"...yes, pathetic individuals find that appropriate).

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by cholodolo

Depends...if the listing said BMWT for $6...get annoyed...I've sent messages and had some refund me the difference (not really the point as I paid for the BMWT to protect the card), but others indignantly maintain it's to cover their costs (envelopes, tape, gas, "their time"...yes, pathetic individuals find that appropriate).

Nothing wrong with covering things like mailers and such in your shipping. It's called shipping and HANDLING for a reason. Things like time and gas I can see but supplies used to ship the item there should be no issue. You can build those in to your shipping and still be reasonable on shipping charges.

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by YouFold2Me

What do you guys do when the seller charges $6.00 for shipping a single top loaded card and then ships PWE?

What shipping method was stated in the listing?

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Nothing wrong with covering things like mailers and such in your shipping. It's called shipping and HANDLING for a reason. Things like time and gas I can see but supplies used to ship the item there should be no issue. You can build those in to your shipping and still be reasonable on shipping charges.

With BMWT I am still under $5 for mine like that unless it is a slab. On most ESE I am Free to $1.15.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by jamcas997

With BMWT I am still under $5 for mine like that unless it is a slab. On most ESE I am Free to $1.15.

I am at 5.00 for many of my items most areas it's about 425 to ship. I am still 1.50 cheaper than most sellers in that category.

If I am doing free shipping on like an ese card I figure shipping at 1.50. Which is my standard for any card no matter how I ship it

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

I am at 5.00 for many of my items most areas it's about 425 to ship. I am still 1.50 cheaper than most sellers in that category.

If I am doing free shipping on like an ese card I figure shipping at 1.50. Which is my standard for any card no matter how I ship it

If it is Mountain or Pacific then $4.18/25 seems to be the cost. but it seems only 8% of my mailouts are BMWT . I guess unlike the usual I am not letting the cost bother me as long as I am getting sales.

[theredmenace]

I'm in the BMWT free shipping cult. I'm a low volume seller and my margins can absorb the cost. Does free shipping help with the ebay algorithm or is that bunk?

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by theredmenace

I'm in the BMWT free shipping cult. I'm a low volume seller and my margins can absorb the cost. Does free shipping help with the ebay algorithm or is that bunk?

People have done experiments and got mixed results. In the end there are too many variables that cannot be ruled out

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Received a $50 offer yesterday on a card I have up for $499 o/b/o

Those are always fun

That's always a insta-block from me after I tell them "No thanks". I don't much care for fishermen.

[dbackschamp2001]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Received a $50 offer yesterday on a card I have up for $499 o/b/o

Those are always fun

You can set a minimum offer.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by dbackschamp2001

You can set a minimum offer.

I would rather it be there so I can easily see it to block them, the best screening tool ebay gives sellers. Plus there are times where I may accept really low offers

[byronscott4ever]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Received a $50 offer yesterday on a card I have up for $499 o/b/o

Those are always fun

Depending on my mood, I may leave it there hoping someone else sees there’s an offer and comes in strong

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Depending on my mood, I may leave it there hoping someone else sees there’s an offer and comes in strong

This is another reason not to set auto decline. Cannot tell you how many times I have had items sit then get a low offer I just ignore and another buyer comes in with a stronger offer or in many cases they buy outright

Open offers seem to boost the algorithm

[DynaEtch]

I think it does too. I've done a little testing on this....on some items that I make an offer on, typically newly listed ones, I then searched by Best Match and it's magically up there up in the top couple. I think the act of making the offer tells ebay it's an item that has interest, just as watching items can boost them in Best Match, and even sending messages can.

Also, if there is an open offer on it, and someone else goes to make an offer, it will say "1 competing offer"...may give the subsequent prospective buyer incentive to close out a deal, by offering a higher amount, or even buy it outright, since they know others are interested.

[Budler]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Received a $50 offer yesterday on a card I have up for $499 o/b/o

Those are always fun

Without knowing what card, it is. I do not know if it is really a $499 or $50 card. I have to take your word which I have no reason not to.

As one can set a Min offer amount I always wonder why do people complain about getting low ball offers. If you do not set a Min. You are just asking for low ballers to make offers.

Asking $499 but would take $400 and maybe if you were in the mood, you would take $390. So set the Min at $390 that way no more $50 offers. If for some reason you may accept a $50 offer, then let it as is.

If you are just doing that for fun, then do not complain about it or word it differently so we know it is just for the fun of it.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Budler

Without knowing what card, it is. I do not know if it is really a $499 or $50 card. I have to take your word which I have no reason not to.

As one can set a Min offer amount I always wonder why do people complain about getting low ball offers. If you do not set a Min. You are just asking for low ballers to make offers.

Asking $499 but would take $400 and maybe if you were in the mood, you would take $390. So set the Min at $390 that way no more $50 offers. If for some reason you may accept a $50 offer, then let it as is.

If you are just doing that for fun, then do not complain about it or word it differently so we know it is just for the fun of it.

Sherilyn Fenn Twin Peaks Limited Edition autograph from 2018 Rittenhouse Twin Peaks.

One sold for $120 in September with one bid. Doubt very highly that was a legitimate sale though, considering that this card is extremely rare and typically sells for 350-$500.

There's one on eBay priced higher than mine ($600). Seller is in China. So I know my card is in the neighborhood.

Currently I have my BO set at 2/3 my posted price. I am willing to negotiate if it reaches the halfway mark. A $50 offer is just a ridiculous troll-job.

[shrevecity]

If it came through messages then it would not matter what min is set at anyway.

[Budler]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

If it came through messages then it would not matter what min is set at anyway.

That is a bummer!!

I was not aware you could do that.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Sherilyn Fenn Twin Peaks Limited Edition autograph from 2018 Rittenhouse Twin Peaks.

One sold for $120 in September with one bid. Doubt very highly that was a legitimate sale though, considering that this card is extremely rare and typically sells for 350-$500.

There's one on eBay priced higher than mine ($600). Seller is in China. So I know my card is in the neighborhood.

Currently I have my BO set at 2/3 my posted price. I am willing to negotiate if it reaches the halfway mark. A $50 offer is just a ridiculous troll-job.

I see two sold listings on 130pt from sept for the exact card, one $129.99 and one 130.00 EUR. Could that be around market value? Maybe. But tbh when there are no other active listings on ebay other than the 600 obo, it's kinda a nice position to be in as the seller, and no harm in trying for more.

As a seller myself, when it comes to these offers.....eh I dunno. I'd go out of my way to block if it's absolutely outrageous like $2 on a $500 listing. I just got offers of like $50, $60, and $50 on three items I have listed in the $400-$500 a piece range, which were way lowballs. I just strict declined them..doesnt take any effort at least, but they're not in the counteroffering range. Probably wont block for just that, but if they send more offers like $75 or $90 I might just let the offer sit without response, so then at least there wont be an option to send more offers until they expire, and most buyers just move on then. If a seller wants to block for a $50 offer for a $500 item, in their right of course

I've done the auto-decline option....idk, I think my biggest issue with it is it reveals your cards in the negotiation as a seller- buyers like to fish for that auto-decline amount, and once arrived at it, will think 'hey the seller seems to be ok with that price since it's more than the autodecline', and then feel like they have no reason to pay more than that. I know the seller doesnt have to be ok with that price still and certainly can hold out for higher...but it still seems like revealing their hand, in the same vein of that oh so common question buyers ask in messages: 'whats the lowest you'll go?'
Plus all the other reasons to not have autodecline mentioned above. That said, if it's like a $3000 item, I may still just go with an autodecline of like $1000 to weed out the troll offers, even though it's not the lowest I would go (as in I wouldnt go that low).

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I see two sold listings on 130pt from sept for the exact card, one $129.99 and one 130.00 EUR. Could that be around market value? Maybe. But tbh when there are no other active listings on ebay other than the 600 obo, it's kinda a nice position to be in as the seller, and no harm in trying for more.

As a seller myself, when it comes to these offers.....eh I dunno. I'd go out of my way to block if it's absolutely outrageous like $2 on a $500 listing. I just got offers of like $50, $60, and $50 on three items I have listed in the $400-$500 a piece range, which were way lowballs. I just strict declined them..doesnt take any effort at least, but they're not in the counteroffering range. Probably wont block for just that, but if they send more offers like $75 or $90 I might just let the offer sit without response, so then at least there wont be an option to send more offers until they expire, and most buyers just move on then. If a seller wants to block for a $50 offer for a $500 item, in their right of course

I've done the auto-decline option....idk, I think my biggest issue with it is it reveals your cards in the negotiation as a seller- buyers like to fish for that auto-decline amount, and once arrived at it, will think 'hey the seller seems to be ok with that price since it's more than the autodecline', and then feel like they have no reason to pay more than that. I know the seller doesnt have to be ok with that price still and certainly can hold out for higher...but it still seems like revealing their hand, in the same vein of that oh so common question buyers ask in messages: 'whats the lowest you'll go?'
Plus all the other reasons to not have autodecline mentioned above. That said, if it's like a $3000 item, I may still just go with an autodecline of like $1000 to weed out the troll offers, even though it's not the lowest I would go (as in I wouldnt go that low).

Market is more than $130 for this card. As I said, I'd be shocked if those were 'legitimate' sales. She's a highly sought out autograph out of that set. I can't speak on the "Modern" parallel, those are much more common, hence the cheaper price tag.

I just rack it up to some kid or grown man/loser type trying to be cute with a $50 bid. Regardless I did change my OBO settings to weed those types out. Unfortunately, that won't stop 100% of the low offers, since eBay doesn't screen out or remove low offers from being sent through eBay messenger.