Corona Virus

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Timmay

Listen to the doctors...

https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/statu...71422576812032
https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1246156119938080776

Everyone is just playing the guessing game. Eventually someone has to be right.

[deansayso]

How has India not been decimated by this? Also, how is Iran holding out?

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by deansayso

How has India not been decimated by this? Also, how is Iran holding out?

They are saying the onslaught is coming for India.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by TanksCards

So you just ignore all of the medical experts who are saying younger people who were once considered "not at risk" can have the virus, not show symptoms, and spread to to dozens of people who will turn around and spread it to dozens more? The most entertaining and pathetic part of this thread is seeing people still trying to claim this isn't a big thing or it's as simple as just keeping "at-risk" people home and the problem will work itself out. I went back and looked over the early pages of this thread and the amount of people who completely dismissed COVID-19 and who are still trying to backup those claims is mind-boggling.

I don't know what you do for a living, but I am assuming you aren't a doctor, or a scientist, or someone who has experiences with infectious diseases or viruses...why do you dismiss the information given to us by professionals?

LOL. There's no such thing as a COVID professional. The ones who classify themselves as such are on TV telling you something different every week. You go ahead and keep listening to them, your brain will turn into jelly. It's not a thing, it is a thing. Don't wear a mask, wear a mask etc. etc. No one knows, it's fluid and knowledge is sparse.

As for the at-risk crowd ... the country can't stay closed. Not possible beyond May. There has to be people, and large groups of them, that begin to get the economy going again. And it would seem to me that the lowest risk professionals are the ones to do that. Not to mention the rioting happening in Italy right now, we can't have that happening here. Get the people who want to work, who can work, and who have very low risk profile to work. Figure it out ASAP.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

LOL. There's no such thing as a COVID professional. The ones who classify themselves as such are on TV telling you something different every week. You go ahead and keep listening to them, your brain will turn into jelly. It's not a thing, it is a thing. Don't wear a mask, wear a mask etc. etc. No one knows, it's fluid and knowledge is sparse.

As for the at-risk crowd ... the country can't stay closed. Not possible beyond May. There has to be people, and large groups of them, that begin to get the economy going again. And it would seem to me that the lowest risk professionals are the ones to do that. Not to mention the rioting happening in Italy right now, we can't have that happening here. Get the people who want to work, who can work, and who have very low risk profile to work. Figure it out ASAP.

And to expand. Start random testing ASAP. We have to get a sense of how spread this virus really is beyond just the positive tests.

[mattglet]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

And to expand. Start random testing ASAP. We have to get a sense of how spread this virus really is beyond just the positive tests.

Start random testing with what tests, and who is going to be doing the testing?

[zachtruitt]

Originally Posted by mattglet

Start random testing with what tests, and who is going to be doing the testing?

Snap your fingers and get it done, the man just spoke!!!

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by mattglet

Start random testing with what tests, and who is going to be doing the testing?

Walmart

[MFaulkCollector]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

And to expand. Start random testing ASAP. We have to get a sense of how spread this virus really is beyond just the positive tests.

common sense should tell people this; the only way to figure out mortality rates is to have a more complete picture of the people infected

nobody is missing death because of this; but they sure as sh*t are missing active cases due to lack of tests/not testing in what is perceived to be low incidence areas/not testing everyone

it's not feasible to test 350 million people....... but i think they need to make a serious attempt to test entire populations in maybe 25-30 counties that stretch over at least 10-12 states.... you can take some lowest incidence, some middle, then some high.

if they could do this properly in a reasonable way it would give a significantly clearer picture of what is actually happening. from that point we could make more educated decisions.... instead of everyone changing their mind in 30 minute intervals for a period of months

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mattglet

Start random testing with what tests, and who is going to be doing the testing?

Originally Posted by zachtruitt

Snap your fingers and get it done, the man just spoke!!!

Test for the virus. We still have no idea how deadly this virus is. We poll Americans everyday to pull results for elections, test a random sample of 5,000 Americans across the country and see how many actually have the virus at this very moment.

We need to know how deadly this virus actually is. We still have no idea just how many people have it ... and it's invaluable information.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by MFaulkCollector

common sense should tell people this; the only way to figure out mortality rates is to have a more complete picture of the people infected

nobody is missing death because of this; but they sure as sh*t are missing active cases due to lack of tests/not testing in what is perceived to be low incidence areas/not testing everyone

it's not feasible to test 350 million people....... but i think they need to make a serious attempt to test entire populations in maybe 25-30 counties that stretch over at least 10-12 states.... you can take some lowest incidence, some middle, then some high.

if they could do this properly in a reasonable way it would give a significantly clearer picture of what is actually happening. from that point we could make more educated decisions.... instead of everyone changing their mind in 30 minute intervals for a period of months

I think that's a LOT of testing, but even a smaller amount will work wonders. Right idea, get it going now.

[MFaulkCollector]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I think that's a LOT of testing, but even a smaller amount will work wonders. Right idea, get it going now.

Yea it’s a lot of testing; but to extrapolate out you would need a lot to achieve the necessary statistical power. I’d leave those calculations to an actuary; but something along these lines is necessary. A straight up random like you said would be a great idea too. I think 50-75k would be needed. But we can talk until blue in the face. There are no resources for this, nor the framework to actually make it happen right now. It’s just a losing battle where nobody wants to just dig in and make it happen at all costs

[mattglet]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Test for the virus. We still have no idea how deadly this virus is. We poll Americans everyday to pull results for elections, test a random sample of 5,000 Americans across the country and see how many actually have the virus at this very moment.

We need to know how deadly this virus actually is. We still have no idea just how many people have it ... and it's invaluable information.

You didn't answer my questions. And I'm not trying to be difficult - they are sincere.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mattglet

You didn't answer my questions. And I'm not trying to be difficult - they are sincere.

We have tests. The 15 minute point of care Abbott tests. Put together a dozen teams, one in each of 12 different states and have them set up ~500 citizens in each state for a test. In five short days, you can figure out how many of those 6,000 American citizens, (that do not currently have symptoms, or have had the virus) have the virus at this present time.

Then the antibody test is available, you do the exact same thing. We still don't know what we're dealing with here; and the hope is that a large swath of the population has both had the virus and current has the virus so that we don't have "waves". We won't know until we get asymptomatic people tested.

It's just like a political poll.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

LOL. There's no such thing as a COVID professional. The ones who classify themselves as such are on TV telling you something different every week. You go ahead and keep listening to them, your brain will turn into jelly. It's not a thing, it is a thing. Don't wear a mask, wear a mask etc. etc. No one knows, it's fluid and knowledge is sparse.

As for the at-risk crowd ... Get the people who want to work, who can work, and who have very low risk profile to work. Figure it out ASAP.

First...
No one knows anything
No one is a viral or epidemiological professional
Knowledge is sparse

Then...
High risk
Low risk
Figure it out

So who is high risk? How does anything get figured out if no one can be trusted to have any knowledge on this? You keep bringing nonsense to this thread.

My guess is there is a vaccine for this before you stop your nonsense. Who wants to take up bets?

[Soxfanguy]

So many businesses will close down. The small businesses loans aren’t even close to good enough. I’ll be fine, but I bet a ton of other businesses won’t

[majestik101]

Well, 80' music superstar Christopher Cross finally got it. That's it. I'm off to clean my guns now.

[bustsomewax]

So, how the did sports conference call go with trump...

[CoolG]

There’s a reason doctors call it a
PRACTICE

Hopefully this will significantly diminish in the coming months

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

My guess is there is a vaccine for this before you stop your nonsense. Who wants to take up bets?

It better. Because there's no stopping my nonsense!

[Onions]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

My wife's colleague passed away.

Late 40s, healthy, not known to have any underlying health issues....

Leaves behind 3 children and a spouse.

So sorry to hear this. Can't imagine what that family is going through.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

First...
No one knows anything
No one is a viral or epidemiological professional
Knowledge is sparse

Then...
High risk
Low risk
Figure it out

So who is high risk? How does anything get figured out if no one can be trusted to have any knowledge on this? You keep bringing nonsense to this thread.

My guess is there is a vaccine for this before you stop your nonsense. Who wants to take up bets?

And I've posted this graph a few times already, but you start here. If you don't have one of these conditions, you're going to be just fine.

[TheWrightStuff]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

So many businesses will close down. The small businesses loans aren’t even close to good enough. I’ll be fine, but I bet a ton of other businesses won’t

Take the loan, declare bankruptcy. Nice going out of business gift.

[Joan p]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

So many businesses will close down. The small businesses loans aren’t even close to good enough. I’ll be fine, but I bet a ton of other businesses won’t

Businesses always claim they are entitled to more of the profits because they take all the risks. Welcome to the risks


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[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

Take the loan, declare bankruptcy. Nice going out of business gift.

Wouldn’t surprise me if there was rules against that with the loans