Topps Chrome Ben Baller Edition(?) - Page 33

PDCCollectibles · 09-01-2020, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

But who? Is there anyone on this board doing that? I'm really just curious as to why and what they expect the long term gains to be.

I have no idea if anyone on the boards are, but every box/case I post on EB and DealerNet sell pretty quickly at current asking prices...

refuse24 · 09-01-2020, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CapeTownCards

Oh no, that’s not a good sign.

My guess is there system can’t handle the influx of new accounts and don’t be shocked if it crashes sadly

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refuse24 · 09-01-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pjray55

I think the wrong email thing also happened with the Finest raffles if I am not mistaken and it was nothing to worry about

That’s good news and hopefully your right

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cj828282 · 09-01-2020, 11:39 AM

Boxes are pretty solid at $1,000. Have to wonder what BO's bounty will be initially. Someone sold 24 single packs for $60 each. That is $1440 for the box!

speedyjg13 · 09-01-2020, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cj828282

Boxes are pretty solid at $1,000. Have to wonder what BO's bounty will be initially. Someone sold 24 single packs for $60 each. That is $1440 for the box!

Any of these sales via auction?

If they are BINs or Best Offers, they could be manipulated

premium1981 · 09-01-2020, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxcd

This seemingly has great resell out of the gate but what turned so many people on to Flashbacks is that people genuinely want to rip as much of that product that they could get their hands on. This couldn't be further from the truth with Baller Chrome.

If no one's ripping or sees the value in ripping, I think the value will drop considerably. A month from now, I think these will be $500-600 instead of $800-1,000, and if I'm wrong, it'll be due to the strength of Baller's base and not the genuine appeal of this being a loaded product.

Bad comparison. Flashbacks is selling for how many times over cost? How about this? If they were equal products this would be selling for thousands. They aren't equal, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to be expensive (as we can already see). The mob will not allow these to be sold for cheap. Isn't going to happen.

elny43 · 09-01-2020, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cj828282

Probably need to get an email to Topps Support about that issue. Not sure what is going on. Wonder if it is the same email address.

Lol, don't expect an email reply from Topps for over a month then.

gmoney328 · 09-01-2020, 11:43 AM

Here we go Group 1....best group of ALL TIME!!

cj828282 · 09-01-2020, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by elny43

Lol, don't expect an email reply from Topps for over a month then.

They sent an email reply to my MC concern fairly quick yesterday-within minutes. When they want to, they can respond fairly quickly and if it is a major concern.

hzw5wi · 09-01-2020, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardGasner

I got confirmation.

But the customer email in the confirmation isn’t mine....anybody else have this issue?

Had this exactly with Finest Flashbacks. Turned out that I was not pn in the raffle (acc Topps support).

mcwildcats · 09-01-2020, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gmoney328

Here we go Group 1....best group of ALL TIME!!

Amen brotha...group 1 is where it's at!

Maxcd · 09-01-2020, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Bad comparison. Flashbacks is selling for how many times over cost? How about this? If they were equal products this would be selling for thousands. They aren't equal, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to be expensive (as we can already see). The mob will not allow these to be sold for cheap. Isn't going to happen.

Cheap is relative. I don't see $500-600 as cheap by any means.

Cost of entry is important too. Tatis' US56 was $1-2 a month ago with the gold being $30. Now the base is $10-15 with the golds at $80-100. %wise the return is much better on the base, and that's almost entirely due to it's cheaper initial price.

There is no way to lose if you buy this product Topps.com, but I think it's more probable this ends up at $600 than $1400 given that its at about $1000 currently. Not many seem to want to rip it, everyone wants to rip Flashbacks. I don't think ROI is a good measure for this given that Flashbacks was nearly x5 cheaper on Topps.com than this.

Pacmeyer · 09-01-2020, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cj828282

They sent an email reply to my MC concern fairly quick yesterday-within minutes. When they want to, they can respond fairly quickly and if it is a major concern.

I think it's been established there's a huge disparity between Topps customer service for members and non-members. If any non-member can document that they got an ultra fast response by email that didn't come from an autoresponder, by all means let's see it.

cj828282 · 09-01-2020, 12:17 PM

If no one rips then the initial prices for singles should do well for those that do rip. A May base card from the set sold for $85 today. Sure it will go down but the first cards listed from this should do well.

premium1981 · 09-01-2020, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxcd

Cheap is relative. I don't see $500-600 as cheap by any means.

You are correct, but there are many people where $500-$600 is indeed cheap. Just because it doesn't fall into your price range doesn't mean the rest of the people buying can't afford it. I could personally care less. I think its ugly and I can't stand the guy. But I know what happens with hype and mob mentality.

Your original statement was about it not having the same value as flashbacks. Considering flashbacks is around $500 and this is around $1,000 you are way off. The value/demand is there, even if it isn't for the standard purchasers.

Middies31985 · 09-01-2020, 12:26 PM

What is the group 1 thing everybody referring to?

premium1981 · 09-01-2020, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Middies31985

What is the group 1 thing everybody referring to?

It was the winning lottery group. Everyone in group 1 got a free box of cards.

CapeTownCards · 09-01-2020, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

It was the winning lottery group. Everyone in group 1 got a free box of cards.

This. And those in group 21 got 2 for the price of 1.

Maxcd · 09-01-2020, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

You are correct, but there are many people where $500-$600 is indeed cheap. Just because it doesn't fall into your price range doesn't mean the rest of the people buying can't afford it. I could personally care less. I think its ugly and I can't stand the guy. But I know what happens with hype and mob mentality.

Your original statement was about it not having the same value as flashbacks. Considering flashbacks is around $500 and this is around $1,000 you are way off. The value/demand is there, even if it isn't for the standard purchasers.

The exact opposite can be said, in that just because $500-600 falls into your constraints of cheap, doesn't mean it's actually cheap.

I never said there isn't money to be made here. Usually, a big factor in a product becoming valuable is that people actually want to open it. Seemingly, people buying this at $1,000 aren't collectors and are buying this because they think it'll soar in value even more. It's the same people buying Jamieson/Trout dual autos for $3,000 each thinking they'll make bank, when actuality the collector that actually wants it would not pay anywhere near that.

There's a tangible difference to a product having legitimate value and it being a game of hot potato. That being said, there's no losing at $250 from Topps.

1989FF · 09-01-2020, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CapeTownCards

This. And those in group 21 got 2 for the price of 1.

But group 21 gets a IRS audit since the price of 2 boxes constitutes grand theft.

refuse24 · 09-01-2020, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

It was the winning lottery group. Everyone in group 1 got a free box of cards.

Did someone say free

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Middies31985 · 09-01-2020, 01:05 PM

So the email I received about the raffle confirmation signup says Customer Group 1. I guess I am still lost because I didn't see any of this info from Topps. I was under the impression that after the 48 Hour window they would conduct a raffle and winners would be contacted, but the group 1 and 21 stuff is throwing me off. Seems troll-ish haha.

Maybe I should read the thread because I'm sure some joke began on Page 10 and has just continued running its course like P2020 thread.

speedyjg13 · 09-01-2020, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Middies31985

So the email I received about the raffle confirmation signup says Customer Group 1. I guess I am still lost because I didn't see any of this info from Topps. I was under the impression that after the 48 Hour window they would conduct a raffle and winners would be contacted, but the group 1 and 21 stuff is throwing me off. Seems troll-ish haha.

Maybe I should read the thread because I'm sure some joke began on Page 10 and has just continued running its course like P2020 thread.

Winners are announced on Thursday.

Don't read into group #s too much.

Just check your email on Thursday

premium1981 · 09-01-2020, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Middies31985

So the email I received about the raffle confirmation signup says Customer Group 1. I guess I am still lost because I didn't see any of this info from Topps. I was under the impression that after the 48 Hour window they would conduct a raffle and winners would be contacted, but the group 1 and 21 stuff is throwing me off. Seems troll-ish haha.

Maybe I should read the thread because I'm sure some joke began on Page 10 and has just continued running its course like P2020 thread.

You aren't lost. You just have to sit back and wait for your box to show up at this point. They have your address on file and everything will be mailed out in the morning.

premium1981 · 09-01-2020, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxcd

The exact opposite can be said, in that just because $500-600 falls into your constraints of cheap, doesn't mean it's actually cheap.

I never said there isn't money to be made here. Usually, a big factor in a product becoming valuable is that people actually want to open it. Seemingly, people buying this at $1,000 aren't collectors and are buying this because they think it'll soar in value even more. It's the same people buying Jamieson/Trout dual autos for $3,000 each thinking they'll make bank, when actuality the collector that actually wants it would not pay anywhere near that.

There's a tangible difference to a product having legitimate value and it being a game of hot potato. That being said, there's no losing at $250 from Topps.

If I double, triple, or quadruple my money I could care less if the receiving end is a "legitimate" buyer or a link in the hot potato game. The money in the bank is the same. I don't care if its a hobby enthusiast of 40 years or a twitter douche buying because another twitter douche says so.

It seems to me that your argument has two detached parts to it. The part about value and the part about who is buying it. You seem to agree that the value is there at this point. You just don't like the fact that it may not be coming from our normal cluster of buyers in the hobby.

09-01-2020, 11:39 AM	#804
cj828282 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 13,967	Boxes are pretty solid at $1,000. Have to wonder what BO's bounty will be initially. Someone sold 24 single packs for $60 each. That is $1440 for the box!

09-01-2020, 11:43 AM	#808
gmoney328 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 4,192	Here we go Group 1....best group of ALL TIME!!

09-01-2020, 12:17 PM	#814
cj828282 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 13,967	If no one rips then the initial prices for singles should do well for those that do rip. A May base card from the set sold for $85 today. Sure it will go down but the first cards listed from this should do well.

09-01-2020, 12:26 PM	#816
Middies31985 Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 965 mercer6huz Mercer85	What is the group 1 thing everybody referring to?

09-01-2020, 01:05 PM	#822
Middies31985 Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 965 mercer6huz Mercer85	So the email I received about the raffle confirmation signup says Customer Group 1. I guess I am still lost because I didn't see any of this info from Topps. I was under the impression that after the 48 Hour window they would conduct a raffle and winners would be contacted, but the group 1 and 21 stuff is throwing me off. Seems troll-ish haha. Maybe I should read the thread because I'm sure some joke began on Page 10 and has just continued running its course like P2020 thread.