Corona Virus - Page 316

DegaBama · 04-03-2020, 05:42 AM

Reporting may not be fully in, but we have seen a day-over-day drop in deaths. Of course, one day doesn't mean much but it is something to hope for, that we'll see it start leveling off and then drop.

mattglet · 04-03-2020, 06:21 AM

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NY getting crushed by density, and density.

I know I've said this a lot already but this was always going to be a regional disaster. It's not going to effect everyone the same and it's not gonna be felt by everyone the same. While this is one country, we are a Republic that manages things in completely different ways, has different populations etc. etc.

There is not one curve, but thousands of them. The large majority of them will be just fine, but some will hurt very badly. It was always going to be this way.

Northern, dense cities will feel it harder than everyone. Not just for the obvious statistics but because of pictures like this. Hell, you could figure out which counties in the United States are most at risk, simply by looking at this map:

The blue are the at-risk zones and the darker the blue, the higher the risk for the population right now.

Without context, this chart is tough to accept as anything more than pretty colors. How is "at risk" defined?

rcmb3220 · 04-03-2020, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mattglet

Without context, this chart is tough to accept as anything more than pretty colors. How is "at risk" defined?

It means places like Glacier county, Montana are at risk because of who they voted for in 2016

Astros19 · 04-03-2020, 07:03 AM

Regarding the NYC pic, is there a possibility that some of those folks are essential workers?
Obviously I don't know but those medical people do need to get back and forth to work.

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preakness · 04-03-2020, 07:29 AM

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Regarding the NYC pic, is there a possibility that some of those folks are essential workers?
Obviously I don't know but those medical people do need to get back and forth to work.

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Maybe SOME

bustsomewax · 04-03-2020, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

Reporting may not be fully in, but we have seen a day-over-day drop in deaths. Of course, one day doesn't mean much but it is something to hope for, that we'll see it start leveling off and then drop.

Some good news. Where did you see that.

DegaBama · 04-03-2020, 07:46 AM

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Some good news. Where did you see that.

The graph near the bottom that shows deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

NeedChapmans · 04-03-2020, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mattglet

Without context, this chart is tough to accept as anything more than pretty colors. How is "at risk" defined?

The chart shows you where the population centers of the US are located. It doesn't represent individuals at risk, but populations at risk.

BostonNut · 04-03-2020, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mattglet

Without context, this chart is tough to accept as anything more than pretty colors. How is "at risk" defined?

Exactly...Vermont is "at risk?" Why? Is it because of all you GD refugee Noo Yawkers?????

NeedChapmans · 04-03-2020, 08:12 AM

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Exactly...Vermont is "at risk?" Why?

The map is the vote-by-county results from the '16 election. It's not perfect but it shows where most of the population in the U.S. is located and which clusters have much greater risk.

BostonNut · 04-03-2020, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

The map is the vote-by-county results from the '16 election. It's not perfect but it shows where most of the population in the U.S. is located and which clusters have much greater risk.

Did you mean Red is at risk?

Because there are no clusters of people in Vermont....

tennelson55 · 04-03-2020, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Unions run the trains. We'll all be dead way before they shut down transportation in NYC.

Did you know that Manhatten has 66,940 people per square mile? Basically if you want to go to the store, people are going to be at that store and with you when you're trying to get to the store. NYC has a major issue and the rest of the country will have it soon as well. It's already in 50 states and odds are there a wayyyyy more cases than what we know exist.

DegaBama · 04-03-2020, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

Did you know that Manhatten has 66,940 people per square mile? Basically if you want to go to the store, people are going to be at that store and with you when you're trying to get to the store. NYC has a major issue and the rest of the country will have it soon as well. It's already in 50 states and odds are there a wayyyyy more cases than what we know exist.

I think we can all agree that the case number is MUCH higher than the reported numbers. However, I wonder what that means for the death number? Is it possible we are seeing a % of people dying that we don't know why they died?

base set · 04-03-2020, 08:27 AM

I have read some encouraging news from a small app creator that released a mobile app that uses wifi connected thermometers to dispense health care advice. Has only been around for a few months before the virus arrived.

Their data of user temps was predicting virus hot spots several days before local health agencies detected them. Read that a week or so ago.

Yesterday I read that their data is now showing declines in human temps correlated to when schools & then businesses closed.

Sorry, too much scrolling by to share the links. But I do think access to data will re-open businesses area by area and business by business. Buffet restaurants though - they ain’t coming back for a long time.

NYC is one media capital of our country. Read yesterday that the death rate is actually higher in New Orleans.

tennelson55 · 04-03-2020, 08:34 AM

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New York City is not getting the message.

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I really don't know. Trying to figure out what kind of jobs these people have in NYC that are still open, making good money; all dressed in regular clothing (no suits on the train).

I don't know. One of the train station ...

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Unions run the trains. We'll all be dead way before they shut down transportation in NYC.

Look at all the people with masks on.

Is your town/city like that?

NYC is taking prevenative measures, but just look at the number of people with masks on. Basically everyone except 1/2 people in each photo people are wearing masks. NYC gets the message. The issue is the shear mass/number of people in a dense area. Spread out people in areas and the number of cases will decrease.

Last night Trump had me laughing because he was enthusiastic about states besides NY stating "the numbers aren't as high." Get a grip Trump. You shove 66940 people into a one mile radius and see how quickly a virus spreads.

carlo16 · 04-03-2020, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I really don't know. Trying to figure out what kind of jobs these people have in NYC that are still open, making good money; all dressed in regular clothing (no suits on the train).

I don't know. One of the train station ...

Not sure about NYC but CT allows for building sanitation, landscaping, fast food and takeout services, big box stores, grocery etc..
The city is a big place with a lot of people and a lot of those jobs don’t require suits. Compound that with the amount of people that don’t own a car and you have a lot of people on the subway. You already posted the graphic detailing how our metro areas are more at risk.

BostonNut · 04-03-2020, 08:44 AM

Is that bagel sitting on the trash can up for grabs?

NeedChapmans · 04-03-2020, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

I think we can all agree that the case number is MUCH higher than the reported numbers. However, I wonder what that means for the death number? Is it possible we are seeing a % of people dying that we don't know why they died?

Everything will be revised when it's all said and done. Total number of people who had the virus will increase substantially, deaths will be revised as well and years down the road, we'll have a clear picture of just how strong/weak a virus this really was.

There's no methodology to anything right now.

spuds1961 · 04-03-2020, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

Look at all the people with masks on.

Is your town/city like that?

NYC is taking prevenative measures, but just look at the number of people with masks on. Basically everyone except 1/2 people in each photo people are wearing masks. NYC gets the message. The issue is the shear mass/number of people in a dense area. Spread out people in areas and the number of cases will decrease.

Last night Trump had me laughing because he was enthusiastic about states besides NY stating "the numbers aren't as high." Get a grip Trump. You shove 66940 people into a one mile radius and see how quickly a virus spreads.

Correction. Used to have 66940 people in a one mile radius.

Dbacksbaseball · 04-03-2020, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

Look at all the people with masks on.

Is your town/city like that?

NYC is taking prevenative measures, but just look at the number of people with masks on. Basically everyone except 1/2 people in each photo people are wearing masks. NYC gets the message. The issue is the shear mass/number of people in a dense area. Spread out people in areas and the number of cases will decrease.

Last night Trump had me laughing because he was enthusiastic about states besides NY stating "the numbers aren't as high." Get a grip Trump. You shove 66940 people into a one mile radius and see how quickly a virus spreads.

No they are not lol. And yes actually even rural towns and small metropolis areas are wearing mask. Its not uncommon to walk into a Wegmans and 75-80% of people with mask on right now.

NeedChapmans · 04-03-2020, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by carlo16

Not sure about NYC but CT allows for building sanitation, landscaping, fast food and takeout services, big box stores, grocery etc..
The city is a big place with a lot of people and a lot of those jobs don’t require suits. Compound that with the amount of people that don’t own a car and you have a lot of people on the subway. You already posted the graphic detailing how our metro areas are more at risk.

Forget landscaping but you're right. Sanitation and food are the big ones.

CC_123 · 04-03-2020, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

The chart shows you where the population centers of the US are located. It doesn't represent individuals at risk, but populations at risk.

That chart doesn't seem to be accurate in my opinion.

That shows my county of 35k people "at risk", but we have had 6-8 positive cases (with 4-6 of those coming from a prison transport). It shows a county of 421k people as "not at risk", but they have had 35-40 positive cases. The 421k people county also borders the county that has had the most positive cases in the state.

bustsomewax · 04-03-2020, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Everything will be revised when it's all said and done. Total number of people who had the virus will increase substantially, deaths will be revised as well and years down the road, we'll have a clear picture of just how strong/weak a virus this really was.

There's no methodology to anything right now.

How do we ever get out of quarantine state without a proper methodology and testing?

Astros19 · 04-03-2020, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tennelson55

Look at all the people with masks on.

Is your town/city like that?

NYC is taking prevenative measures, but just look at the number of people with masks on. Basically everyone except 1/2 people in each photo people are wearing masks. NYC gets the message. The issue is the shear mass/number of people in a dense area. Spread out people in areas and the number of cases will decrease.

Last night Trump had me laughing because he was enthusiastic about states besides NY stating "the numbers aren't as high." Get a grip Trump. You shove 66940 people into a one mile radius and see how quickly a virus spreads.

Yea dog gone it, he should have been stark raving mad!
I just don't understand why some don't understand he's supposed to be calm, cool and collected. You know, positive like leaders typically are supposed to be in times like these.

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bustsomewax · 04-03-2020, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CC_123

That chart doesn't seem to be accurate in my opinion.

That shows my county of 35k people "at risk", but we have had 6-8 positive cases (with 4-6 of those coming from a prison transport). It shows a county of 421k people as "not at risk", but they have had 35-40 positive cases. The 421k people county also borders the county that has had the most positive cases in the state.

The chart is a county by county election map in 2016. I would not try to make too many correlations with it. But no doubt, you can see where the most densely populated areas are. If there was only a map that actually showed population density...

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04-03-2020, 05:42 AM	#7876
DegaBama Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,583	Reporting may not be fully in, but we have seen a day-over-day drop in deaths. Of course, one day doesn't mean much but it is something to hope for, that we'll see it start leveling off and then drop.

04-03-2020, 07:03 AM	#7879
Astros19 Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 5,994	Regarding the NYC pic, is there a possibility that some of those folks are essential workers? Obviously I don't know but those medical people do need to get back and forth to work. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

04-03-2020, 08:27 AM	#7889
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,672	I have read some encouraging news from a small app creator that released a mobile app that uses wifi connected thermometers to dispense health care advice. Has only been around for a few months before the virus arrived. Their data of user temps was predicting virus hot spots several days before local health agencies detected them. Read that a week or so ago. Yesterday I read that their data is now showing declines in human temps correlated to when schools & then businesses closed. Sorry, too much scrolling by to share the links. But I do think access to data will re-open businesses area by area and business by business. Buffet restaurants though - they ain’t coming back for a long time. NYC is one media capital of our country. Read yesterday that the death rate is actually higher in New Orleans.