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#7826 |
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The card molesters have been around long enough so that they know how to play the game. They know, for instance, that 1948 Leaf baseball come in two different sizes. They're also aware that 1951 to 1955 Parkhurst are either full of size variations or appear to have unusually large borders to most TPG graders, who are pretty ignorant when it comes to vintage hockey. The result is a sh!tload of chopped cards. In fact, if not for BODA, the first five years of Parkhurst hockey would be totally uncollectible in PSA holders...although we're rapidly approaching that threshold right now. The only way to really clean up the hobby at this point would be to pull every submission from all the dealers in my sig line and for PSA (and other TPGs) to decertify every single card.
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#7827 |
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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it.
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This is an instance where an already altered card was
altered again by Gary Moser to achieve a PSA number grade. SGC AUTHENTIC to PSA 6 PSA Cert #26928973 1955 Topps Roberto Clemente #164 Value gain of $2,462.52 PSA Set Registry: Private This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Ebay seller PWCC as a SGC AUTH on November 09, 2016 for $908.69. Same card was sold by eBay seller PWCC as a PSA 6 for $3,371.21 on March 13, 2018. Card has since sold multiple times: ![]() Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red boxes identify added rough cut and "worn" left and right edges. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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SGC 6 to PSA 7
PSA Cert #41697357 1954 Bowman Willie Mays #89 Value gain of $475.00 PSA Set Registry: None found This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Ebay seller globalcoincollector as a SGC 6 on October 29, 2017 for $330.00. Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA 7 for $805.00 on November 11, 2018. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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#7829 |
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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it.
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PSA 6 to PSA 9 - Pop 2 (w/o qualifiers)
PSA Cert #42313864 1954 Bowman Hank Bauer #129 Value gain of $2,191.37 PSA Set Registry: olemiss This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Ebay seller mscrazyyetti as a PSA 6 on September 16, 2018 for $19.48. Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA 9 for $2,210.85 on March 13, 2019. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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#7830 |
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#7831 |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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That Clemente is pretty crazy.
If one fails (gets caught), just alter again.
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#7832 |
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I guess SGC thought the edges were too sharp to be real, so he cut them down and frayed them. Wow.
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Quote:
I would love to know who bought that Clemente in 2019 and 2021.
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#7834 |
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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
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SGC 6 to PSA 8.5 - Pop 1 (none higher)
PSA Cert #41697361 1954 Parkhurst Terry Sawchuk #33 Value gain of $3,732.00 PSA Set Registry: Private This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Heritage Auctions as a SGC 6 on April 08, 2018 for $144.00. Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA 8.5 for $3,876.00 on November 19, 2018. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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This trimmed 54 Bowman Mays does not look right. Easy to say in hindsight with the evidence in front of me, but those borders look laughably narrow.
The pre-trimmed Mays (presumably unaltered) was a nice-looking card too. Grading is such a farce. Quote:
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#7836 |
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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
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PSA 6 to PSA 7
PSA Cert #20946885 1959 Parkhurst Canadiens On Guard #1 Value gain of $39.77 PSA Set Registry: kalibontu This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 6 on December 09, 2012 for $53.23. Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA 7 for $93.00 on April 07, 2013. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges (as viewed). ![]() ![]() ![]()
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#7837 |
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BODA
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PSA Authentic Altered to SGC 2
![]() SGC Cert #6372180 1928 Yuengling's Ice Cream Lou Gehrig #26 Value gain of $2,289.00 This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA Authentic Altered on February 28, 2019 for $610.00. Same card was sold by Probstein123 as a SGC 2 for $2,899.00 on March 15, 2022. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Heavy crease has been minimized. I used a scanned image from a prior sale for reference. With the PWCC scanned images being so different with contrast and brightness I am unable to see the pencil marks referred to by PWCC in the listing description. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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BODA
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I went back to the beginning of this thread and decided to revisit the PSA cert number run
that included the card that started this thread - the 1952 Topps Mantle. This Hodges card cert number is just two numbers before the Mantle. I have also added the PWCC listing descriptions of the card for each sale. ![]() ![]() PSA 9 to PSA 9 PSA Cert #42775199 1951 Bowman Gil Hodges #7 Value gain of $424.16 PSA Set Registry: Andy's '51 Bowman Bums This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 on August 13, 2018 for $2,315.84. Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA 9 for $2,740.00 on March 13, 2019. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red boxes identify corner work. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I went back to the beginning of this thread and decided to revisit the PSA cert number run
that included the card that started this thread - the 1952 Topps Mantle. This Cobb card cert number is just 26 numbers before the Mantle. The purchase was made buy an unknown (to me) masked buyer ID of 1***a. One of the 'Buyers Club' members? ![]() PSA 3.5 to PSA 4 PSA Cert #42775175 1932 U.S. Caramel Ty Cobb #14 Value gain of $237.00 PSA Set Registry: None found This card was purchased by an unknown buyer (1***a) from Ebay seller ppgustafson as a PSA 3.5 on November 18, 2018 for $2,100.00. Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA 4 for $2,337.00 on August 11, 2019. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red boxes identify corner work, pressed out creases/wrinkles. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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#7842 |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Maybe some of our Net54 members can reach out to ppgustafson and see if he still has the buyers info?
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#7843 |
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Join Date: Aug 2019
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All added and updated https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database
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#7844 |
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That Cobb is a case of someone being slab blind and not looking at the item they are buying.
That card is 90 years old, even if it was slabbed 20 years ago it would still have 70 years of absorbing its surrounding environment and color fading in its appearance. The shocking bright red background is a dead giveaway it's been fiddled with. All that real patina frittered away for $237.
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#7845 |
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: So Cal
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Even if they did and I doubt any of them would ask him, Gustafson would most likely not cooperate or state he does not have the information any longer. I encountered that a majority of the time when I was assisting.
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#7846 |
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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
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PSA 9 to PSA 10 - Pop 1
![]() PSA Cert #28151576 1960 Topps Willie McCovey #554 All-Star Value gain of $5,777.01 PSA Set Registry: Private This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 9 on April 13, 2017 for $988.99. Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA 10 for $6,766.00 on December 11, 2017. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red boxes identify color added to red ink imperfections (fisheyes/hickies). ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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#7847 |
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The shape and contour of all four corners appear to have changed on the PSA 10 1960 Topps Willie McCovey All Star.
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#7848 |
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BODA
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PSA 7 to PSA 8
PSA Cert #46310624 1951 Bowman Emlen Tunnell #91 Value gain of $428.66 PSA Set Registry: none found Card was sold again in May of 2022. ![]() This card was purchased by Gary Moser (whitman111) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 7 on July 22, 2018 for $138.34. Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA 8 for $567.00 on July 26, 2020. Yellow circles are print, chipping, stain or fiber identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed left edge (as viewed). ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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#7849 |
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#7850 |
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Really interesting to see that the first documented sale of the Tunnell occurred after PWCC claimed to have stopped their relationship/partnership with Moser.
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