✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 306

HunterConnorMom · 04-01-2022, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Nice!
I was very impressed with the metal case

Agree 100% 😀 My son loved the case and kept asking when I will play. Probably play tomorrow. Did you play yet?

Trueblue · 04-02-2022, 09:43 PM

Few observations. Despite Ohtani's strong spring and expectations for MVP favorite, his prices are pretty flat - maybe even slightly down compared to lockout period. Those who sold in hotter times with money on the sideline are in good position to do some scoops (looking at a few of you in the thread).

There are also random second year cards that are fetching material prices. I feel there are many people that desire to enter the Ohtani market but can't handle the big increase to rare 2018 stuff. I think this type of stuff catches up on the front end (as long as Ohtani performs). I expect some jumps in 2018 rare this season.

I think there are also some external factors driving the flatness of price, but when nba/March madness ends, people will turn their eyes back to baseball. At that time, if Ohtani is still doing Ohtani things, we will all be doing a happy dance. There are only so many hobby dollars and the biggest headliner gets 80% of the pot. Look at poor Vlad Jr. from last season, as excellent as he was. And let's face it - it's always more fun watching a 5-tool 6'4 handsome two way superstar rather than a rotund very good hitter.

Picked up a nice RC Auto I'll post when I get it.

90skid · 04-03-2022, 12:33 PM

I'm new to Ohtani collecting, but wanted to share a few pick-ups. Sho Time starts in a few more days!

To bring up a discussion, what's up with the variances in his autograph format over the past few years? I'm not an expert in this at all but this appears to be his new format of signature and isn't like anything he's done in the past. Was just curious.

imbluestreak23 · 04-03-2022, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 90skid

To bring up a discussion, what's up with the variances in his autograph format over the past few years? I'm not an expert in this at all but this appears to be his new format of signature and isn't like anything he's done in the past. Was just curious.

It was all Shohei being nice, coming from a great country and culture, he was happy to be here and sign cards. Topps broke him

NYRE2PECT · 04-03-2022, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 90skid

I'm new to Ohtani collecting, but wanted to share a few pick-ups. Sho Time starts in a few more days!

To bring up a discussion, what's up with the variances in his autograph format over the past few years? I'm not an expert in this at all but this appears to be his new format of signature and isn't like anything he's done in the past. Was just curious.

TrueBlue has a great response in this thread about Sho’s auto. It would be worth a search!

It’s come a long way - not good way for sure.

Great cards^!

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hammertime · 04-03-2022, 04:25 PM

Nice ones! I've had my eye on the nickname Heritage. There's been some discussion of the signature changes...I've seen 3 different versions just in the past year. I assumed he was simplifying it due to being asked to sign more products, but then it seemed like he changed it to something even more elaborate. Maybe someone told him to step it up.

hammertime · 04-03-2022, 04:30 PM

Actually really 4 variations...these are all 2021 products...that's nuts.

NYRE2PECT · 04-03-2022, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Actually really 4 variations...these are all

Is Ippei signing some things!?!?

That's wild.

Rage · 04-03-2022, 09:29 PM

Big fly off of Buehler

NYRE2PECT · 04-03-2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Big fly off of Buehler

He just missed one in the first inning on that 3-2 slider (i think), and the one he got was all arms. Dude's a beast - love watching him play.

I don't know boys....the Angels lineup looks fast and strong

!

Trueblue · 04-03-2022, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

It was all Shohei being nice, coming from a great country and culture, he was happy to be here and sign cards. Topps broke him

So hilarious and true!

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

TrueBlue has a great response in this thread about Sho’s auto. It would be worth a search!

It’s come a long way - not good way for sure.

Truncated response is that you should buy RC year Bowman (first release), Topps Chrome (not update), Finest, and Heritage (Low) autos if you want the "excited to sign and delight fans" penmanship

majestik101 · 04-03-2022, 11:58 PM

He most definitely doesn't put much effort into his autographs these days. There is a real drop off of quality after 2020.

hammertime · 04-04-2022, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

I don't know boys....the Angels lineup looks fast and strong

!

Indeed...fingers crossed they can all stay healthy.

BigL7370 · 04-04-2022, 03:40 AM

His contract with Fanatics probably messed up the way he signs his autographs - however, I've seen newer Fanatics signed items with the newer, shortened autograph, where that is just how it looks now regardless.

Raleigh504 · 04-04-2022, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Few observations. Despite Ohtani's strong spring and expectations for MVP favorite, his prices are pretty flat - maybe even slightly down compared to lockout period. Those who sold in hotter times with money on the sideline are in good position to do some scoops (looking at a few of you in the thread).

There are also random second year cards that are fetching material prices. I feel there are many people that desire to enter the Ohtani market but can't handle the big increase to rare 2018 stuff. I think this type of stuff catches up on the front end (as long as Ohtani performs). I expect some jumps in 2018 rare this season.

I think there are also some external factors driving the flatness of price, but when nba/March madness ends, people will turn their eyes back to baseball. At that time, if Ohtani is still doing Ohtani things, we will all be doing a happy dance. There are only so many hobby dollars and the biggest headliner gets 80% of the pot. Look at poor Vlad Jr. from last season, as excellent as he was. And let's face it - it's always more fun watching a 5-tool 6'4 handsome two way superstar rather than a rotund very good hitter.

Picked up a nice RC Auto I'll post when I get it.

Agreed, his stuff has been pretty flat and even down. I had a few cards looking to offload and they have seemed to go down in price from a few months ago. I think for a lot of players it is a wait and see once the season starts.

BC Hunt · 04-04-2022, 11:28 AM

I'm a sucker for Rookie Cups!

NYRE2PECT · 04-04-2022, 11:36 AM

^^Big cards, literally and physically

!

I think that he is going to have another monster year!

BC Hunt · 04-04-2022, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

^^Big cards, literally and physically

!

I think that he is going to have another monster year!

Thanks! and my bad on the size! haha

Agree, another MVP season let's go

seanrs1 · 04-04-2022, 12:08 PM

Assuming Ohtani has a year similar to last year....anyone care to speculate how they see the his card market reacting? If he has another MVP(like) year, I could see his low and mid end cards doubling and his his high end cards becoming astronomical. Thoughts?

imbluestreak23 · 04-04-2022, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

Assuming Ohtani has a year similar to last year....anyone care to speculate how they see the his card market reacting? If he has another MVP(like) year, I could see his low and mid end cards doubling and his his high end cards becoming astronomical. Thoughts?

Hard to say with low/mid end as there's still several cards that need slabbed.

But high end, I've always said the ceiling is Trout. High end color BCs for blue/gold/orange should get closer to Mike. Not reach Mike, but there shouldn't be that much of a price discrepancy IMO if Shohei again is an MVP candidate, and dare I say, wins it.

Mister2Bits · 04-04-2022, 09:22 PM

Been working on some more Stadium Club projects and thought I'd share some scans.

It's my favorite Ohtani image. As a photographer myself, it's a fantastic image with really nice bokeh that adds to the refractor effect.

2021 Stadium Club Paper
missing 1st Day Issue (not chasing 1/1's)

Blue Foil /50

30 Years /30

Rainbow Foil /25

Members Only

Photographers Proof /10

2021 Stadium Club Chrome Refractor Inserts

Chrome Refractor

Orange Refractor /99

Pearl White Refractor /30 (looks the same as base refractor just #d /30)

Gold Minted Refractor

NYRE2PECT · 04-04-2022, 09:36 PM

^^ love it! Love Stadium Club imagery - nicely done

!

shaqobe · 04-05-2022, 02:34 PM

Trueblue · 04-05-2022, 02:36 PM

I just got up charged $720 by PSA for an Ohtani card. Good grief. There's a strong net casted for Ohtani now it seems.

seanrs1 · 04-05-2022, 02:37 PM

It is behind a paywall....but the article is just based on hitting only.

https://theathletic.com/3223790/2022...e-yastrzemski/

Ohtani is ranked in the Top 5 (implied Top 3)

04-02-2022, 09:43 PM	#7627
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,339	Few observations. Despite Ohtani's strong spring and expectations for MVP favorite, his prices are pretty flat - maybe even slightly down compared to lockout period. Those who sold in hotter times with money on the sideline are in good position to do some scoops (looking at a few of you in the thread). There are also random second year cards that are fetching material prices. I feel there are many people that desire to enter the Ohtani market but can't handle the big increase to rare 2018 stuff. I think this type of stuff catches up on the front end (as long as Ohtani performs). I expect some jumps in 2018 rare this season. I think there are also some external factors driving the flatness of price, but when nba/March madness ends, people will turn their eyes back to baseball. At that time, if Ohtani is still doing Ohtani things, we will all be doing a happy dance. There are only so many hobby dollars and the biggest headliner gets 80% of the pot. Look at poor Vlad Jr. from last season, as excellent as he was. And let's face it - it's always more fun watching a 5-tool 6'4 handsome two way superstar rather than a rotund very good hitter. Picked up a nice RC Auto I'll post when I get it. Last edited by Trueblue; 04-02-2022 at 09:53 PM.

04-03-2022, 04:30 PM	#7632
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,574	Actually really 4 variations...these are all 2021 products...that's nuts. Last edited by hammertime; 04-03-2022 at 04:32 PM.

04-03-2022, 09:29 PM	#7634
Rage Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: CA Posts: 3,351 santacruzbaseballcards1	Big fly off of Buehler __________________ Check out my eBay store

04-03-2022, 11:58 PM	#7637
majestik101 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Socially Distanced Posts: 42,299 majestik101	He most definitely doesn't put much effort into his autographs these days. There is a real drop off of quality after 2020. __________________ "Watson alone sells for over $20" https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182760

04-04-2022, 09:22 PM	#7646
Mister2Bits Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Florida Man Posts: 5,082 mistertwobits mistertwobits	Been working on some more Stadium Club projects and thought I'd share some scans. It's my favorite Ohtani image. As a photographer myself, it's a fantastic image with really nice bokeh that adds to the refractor effect. 2021 Stadium Club Paper missing 1st Day Issue (not chasing 1/1's) Blue Foil /50 30 Years /30 Rainbow Foil /25 Members Only Photographers Proof /10 2021 Stadium Club Chrome Refractor Inserts Chrome Refractor Orange Refractor /99 Pearl White Refractor /30 (looks the same as base refractor just #d /30) Gold Minted Refractor __________________ Collecting: Ohtani, Judge \| Skateboarding Cards, Autographs & Decks

04-03-2022, 12:33 PM	#7628
90skid Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,796	I'm new to Ohtani collecting, but wanted to share a few pick-ups. Sho Time starts in a few more days! To bring up a discussion, what's up with the variances in his autograph format over the past few years? I'm not an expert in this at all but this appears to be his new format of signature and isn't like anything he's done in the past. Was just curious.

04-03-2022, 04:25 PM	#7631
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,574	Nice ones! I've had my eye on the nickname Heritage. There's been some discussion of the signature changes...I've seen 3 different versions just in the past year. I assumed he was simplifying it due to being asked to sign more products, but then it seemed like he changed it to something even more elaborate. Maybe someone told him to step it up.

04-04-2022, 03:40 AM	#7639
BigL7370 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,023	His contract with Fanatics probably messed up the way he signs his autographs - however, I've seen newer Fanatics signed items with the newer, shortened autograph, where that is just how it looks now regardless.

04-04-2022, 11:28 AM	#7641
BC Hunt Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,736 bicum70	I'm a sucker for Rookie Cups!

04-04-2022, 11:36 AM	#7642
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 7,706	^^Big cards, literally and physically ! I think that he is going to have another monster year!

04-04-2022, 12:08 PM	#7644
seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,713	Assuming Ohtani has a year similar to last year....anyone care to speculate how they see the his card market reacting? If he has another MVP(like) year, I could see his low and mid end cards doubling and his his high end cards becoming astronomical. Thoughts?

04-04-2022, 09:36 PM	#7647
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 7,706	^^ love it! Love Stadium Club imagery - nicely done !

04-05-2022, 02:34 PM	#7648
shaqobe Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Chavez Ravine Posts: 250

04-05-2022, 02:36 PM	#7649
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,339	I just got up charged $720 by PSA for an Ohtani card. Good grief. There's a strong net casted for Ohtani now it seems.

04-05-2022, 02:37 PM	#7650
seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,713	It is behind a paywall....but the article is just based on hitting only. https://theathletic.com/3223790/2022...e-yastrzemski/ Ohtani is ranked in the Top 5 (implied Top 3)