Yordan Alvarez - Page 300

BBases31 · 10-18-2023, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eye4talent

Big Papi’s trajectory is even more reassuring.

So you’re baking in Yordan to take steroids in his 30s?

Archangel1775 · 10-18-2023, 01:35 PM

I would be content with ending his career with 60 WAR and 400 home runs while winning another title and being a good reason for it. About 4 more Top 10 MVP seasons would be great too. A senior committee would eventually vote him into the HOF. I'm not overly concerned with 500 . Could he attain 371 more home runs by age 36, sure. Would voters hold that against him with what he's done on the postseason, doubtful. He's got 5 years left on his current contract. He'll be at roughly 300 home runs and about 45 WAR conservatively. Could he DH for another 5 years for counting stats? I know the Dodgers would welcome him back for that job

rngrdanny22 · 10-18-2023, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

So you’re baking in Yordan to take steroids in his 30s?

Shouldn't that just be an assumption of literally every player at this point?

noaskiecards · 10-18-2023, 07:05 PM

Yordan could be the goat
With astros pitching, hoping 3 hrs tonight for the win

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eye4talent · 10-18-2023, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by noaskiecards

Yordan could be the goat
With astros pitching, hoping 3 hrs tonight for the win

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Wow. That might just be pushing the limits of this forum.

But glad to see that ol’ Barry Wood isn’t forgotten….

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Onepocketj · 10-18-2023, 08:36 PM

Damn. Robbed

regularp · 10-18-2023, 08:36 PM

Got absolutely robbed. What a catch.

Onepocketj · 10-18-2023, 09:14 PM

There we go!!!

Archangel1775 · 10-19-2023, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by regularp

Got absolutely robbed. What a catch.

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

There we go!!!

Yordan is elite, I just watched the AB to score the two insurance runs that they needed

rwperu34 · 10-19-2023, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

This happens with every young player with early success in all the sports. Don't even have to be an investor (even though those are obviously louder). Multiple MVPs, multiple Super Bowls, breaking records, etc.

Ken Griffey Jr was a shoe in for the all time HR king. Trout was going to cruise to 500 HRs, very likely 600. Those are two players which were best of their generation. Patience and hype are not bedfellows.

I've got two words for you: Tom Brady. Or Michael Jordan, if you prefer. Or Barry Bonds, if you prefer. Maybe you need to hear Shohei Ohtani. Or Wayne Gretsky. Out of this world, unexpected scenarios happen all the time.

rwperu34 · 10-19-2023, 02:57 AM

Giancarlo Stanton from age 22-26; 115 games a year, 30 HR per year.
Giancarlo Stanton at age 27; 159 games, 59 HR.

But nobody ever sees their price rise after they turn 27!

Also, talk about injury prone. He basically had four heathy years out of 13 yet still has an MVP and a 2nd place finish.

rwperu34 · 10-19-2023, 04:49 AM

"The only guy to ever hit 536 HR for their entire career is Babe Ruth. You're telling me you think Hank Aaron is going to hit 536 after his 27th birthday?"-All the naysayers in 1961.

NYBBFAN · 10-19-2023, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rwperu34

"The only guy to ever hit 536 HR for their entire career is Babe Ruth. You're telling me you think Hank Aaron is going to hit 536 after his 27th birthday?"-All the naysayers in 1961.

“Blowout in other eras” is something I’ve thought about. It would be too depressing and cynical to actually type out.

BBases31 · 10-19-2023, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBBFAN

“Blowout in other eras” is something I’ve thought about. It would be too depressing and cynical to actually type out.

That guy was pumping Alek Thomas for a while, I wouldn't take anything he says too seriously

Onepocketj · 10-19-2023, 08:38 PM

Damn! Thought he had the grand slam

Onepocketj · 10-19-2023, 09:52 PM

Another RBI
That's 3 on the night

Bambino22 · 10-19-2023, 10:22 PM

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Damn! Thought he had the grand slam

That's two almost hrs in last 2 games. And he still produced!!

This guy crushes.

Bambino22 · 10-19-2023, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

That guy was pumping Alek Thomas for a while, I wouldn't take anything he says too seriously

Rwperu has amazing credibility in this thread. You need to cut this s##t out.

rwperu34 · 10-20-2023, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

That guy was pumping Alek Thomas as the starting CF ahead of Corbin Carroll for a while, I wouldn't take anything he says too seriously

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Rwperu has amazing credibility in this thread. You need to cut this s##t out.

Fixed his post.

The % of time that Alek Thomas was in CF ahead of Corbin Carroll when they were both in the game is literally 100%. Thomas is simply a much better fielder, just like I said.

He's butt-hurt because he thinks he needs Carroll to be a CF to be a monster. I always come back to my typical refrain; once they get to the Bigs, defense and position barely matter if they matter at all. It's no different for Carroll than it is Yordan or than it was for Ryan Howard when he was bopping.

One other thing that's weird is, for all my "pumping" of Alek Thomas I've owned about 20 cards of his...all of them sold at flip pricing except the one BCA I stuck in the box. He's basically a guy I pick up here and there because he's cheap and plays for my home town team. If you want to talk about a bad projection, why not go with Joey Gallo from the 2021 trade deadline forward? He has literally hit .165 with a sub .400 SLG over those 800 PA, will be signing a minor league contract at best, and I have $5,000 worth of his crap...if he were priced as high as Alek Thomas.

JoinerCP · 10-20-2023, 05:58 AM

I'm new here but seems like there is a lot of talking past one another when discussing players.

People are positing that 600hrs is at the top of the possibility curve for Yordan? For those of you who believe it's in the realm of possibility, could you tell me what % chance you'd give that?

eye4talent · 10-20-2023, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JoinerCP

I'm new here but seems like there is a lot of talking past one another when discussing players.

People are positing that 600hrs is at the top of the possibility curve for Yordan? For those of you who believe it's in the realm of possibility, could you tell me what % chance you'd give that?

Hard to say, but Jim Thome had 93 HR by age 26. So, it’s certainly not impossible.

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Bambino22 · 10-20-2023, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JoinerCP

I'm new here but seems like there is a lot of talking past one another when discussing players.

People are positing that 600hrs is at the top of the possibility curve for Yordan? For those of you who believe it's in the realm of possibility, could you tell me what % chance you'd give that?

My wild guess. 5% for 600!
What concerns me the most is not injuries, thats 3rd. It's managers benching Yordan earlier in games and more often full games. And always changing pitchers on him.

OhioLawyerF5 · 10-20-2023, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JoinerCP

I'm new here but seems like there is a lot of talking past one another when discussing players.

People are positing that 600hrs is at the top of the possibility curve for Yordan? For those of you who believe it's in the realm of possibility, could you tell me what % chance you'd give that?

By definition the "top of the possibility curve" or "best case scenario" is a very small probability.

Archangel1775 · 10-20-2023, 08:45 AM

There are 28 players that hit over 500 home runs. That's over 100 years of baseball. Only 9 have hit over 600. There is a small chance but Yordan doesn't need that with his accomplishments in the playoffs, the accolades and the championships that come with it. Yes, there is a long way to go but the future is bright in that aspect.

BBases31 · 10-20-2023, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambino22

Rwperu has amazing credibility in this thread. You need to cut this s##t out.

I have him blocked so I have no idea what he's saying here. I can just relay my experience with him before. And he had this bizarre obsession with Alek Thomas in the Corbin Carroll thread. Thomas got sent down to AAA within a couple weeks after his pumping started, was quite funny to say the least but that nonsense was enough for me to not trust whatever story he is selling on other players

10-18-2023, 01:35 PM	#7477
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,806	I would be content with ending his career with 60 WAR and 400 home runs while winning another title and being a good reason for it. About 4 more Top 10 MVP seasons would be great too. A senior committee would eventually vote him into the HOF. I'm not overly concerned with 500 . Could he attain 371 more home runs by age 36, sure. Would voters hold that against him with what he's done on the postseason, doubtful. He's got 5 years left on his current contract. He'll be at roughly 300 home runs and about 45 WAR conservatively. Could he DH for another 5 years for counting stats? I know the Dodgers would welcome him back for that job __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.* Last edited by Archangel1775; 10-18-2023 at 02:26 PM.

10-18-2023, 07:05 PM	#7479
noaskiecards Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,145	Yordan could be the goat With astros pitching, hoping 3 hrs tonight for the win Sent from my SM-A146U1 using Tapatalk Attached Thumbnails Last edited by noaskiecards; 10-18-2023 at 07:35 PM.

10-19-2023, 02:57 AM	#7486
rwperu34 Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 8,293	Giancarlo Stanton from age 22-26; 115 games a year, 30 HR per year. Giancarlo Stanton at age 27; 159 games, 59 HR. But nobody ever sees their price rise after they turn 27! Also, talk about injury prone. He basically had four heathy years out of 13 yet still has an MVP and a 2nd place finish. __________________ Me: Did I win? Gixen: Yes. You won. Now you're broke.

10-19-2023, 04:49 AM	#7487
rwperu34 Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 8,293	"The only guy to ever hit 536 HR for their entire career is Babe Ruth. You're telling me you think Hank Aaron is going to hit 536 after his 27th birthday?"-All the naysayers in 1961. __________________ Me: Did I win? Gixen: Yes. You won. Now you're broke.

10-20-2023, 08:45 AM	#7499
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,806	There are 28 players that hit over 500 home runs. That's over 100 years of baseball. Only 9 have hit over 600. There is a small chance but Yordan doesn't need that with his accomplishments in the playoffs, the accolades and the championships that come with it. Yes, there is a long way to go but the future is bright in that aspect. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.* Last edited by Archangel1775; 10-20-2023 at 09:02 AM.

10-18-2023, 08:36 PM	#7481
Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,204 jeflave-0 onepocketj	Damn. Robbed

10-18-2023, 08:36 PM	#7482
regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,155	Got absolutely robbed. What a catch.

10-18-2023, 09:14 PM	#7483
Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,204 jeflave-0 onepocketj	There we go!!!

10-19-2023, 08:38 PM	#7490
Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,204 jeflave-0 onepocketj	Damn! Thought he had the grand slam

10-19-2023, 09:52 PM	#7491
Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,204 jeflave-0 onepocketj	Another RBI That's 3 on the night

10-20-2023, 05:58 AM	#7495
JoinerCP Member Join Date: Oct 2023 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 105	I'm new here but seems like there is a lot of talking past one another when discussing players. People are positing that 600hrs is at the top of the possibility curve for Yordan? For those of you who believe it's in the realm of possibility, could you tell me what % chance you'd give that?