LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged - Page 30

dogzman · 11-30-2018, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JayConley

Eric,

Firstly, thanks for joining the discussion! I understand it might have been uncomfortable, but I think it was necessary on your part. Upon rereading I realized my posts were a little too indicting of you, and I apologize for that. The lack of response from you, on this issue, kind of triggered me, honestly. I didn't mean to convict you.

I don't think anyone questions how hard you've worked to get where you are. If they do, I believe they're fooling themselves. It no doubt took an extreme amount of time and effort. That's commendable and admirable. I hope you understand, however, that a possibly unfortunate byproduct of that hard work and earned success is that you are a large figure in this hobby now. You are, indisputably, one of the pillars of the high-end world and that organically makes you more scrutinized.

I read your post many times. I carefully considered every word and every answer. Your post was very calculated, and it makes it very easy to understand why you are in the position you are in this hobby. Again, sincere kudos!

Now, let me state publicly that I believe it was far more diplomatic than forthcoming. I do not, whatsoever, expect you to reply to this. That isn't a challenge, either. I understand why you might choose not to.

That statement would be unfair if I didn't disclose why I felt that way. You spoke in generalities and blanket statements and gave more of a philosophical stance on broad issues that plague this forum on a local scale and this hobby on a global scale. You failed to really address the issues brought forth in this thread.

There were, however, some parts that gave me hope. I bolded the parts that stood out most to me. Your statement about the growth of the hobby and its attractiveness to big-time players seemed genuine. That's great because, unfairly or not, YOU are their welcoming committee. Those types generally do not get involved in the hobby seeking base cards of LeBron James. They want his best card. They want cards you own. I hope you heed your own words because when they come looking for these (and they will), it would serve you best to be fully transparent. That may seem counter-intuitive when the information brought forth here, in theory, diminishes the value of your cards. You, however, showed an understanding of the short-term and the long-term. Your expectation from these potential relationships is that dreamy "long-term". And it would be cratered by you focusing on the short-term of not being transparent about these cards.

The attacks on your friend that made a $250k purchase on the LeBron RPA were certainly unwarranted. I genuinely hope he wasn't affected by them though it seems he was. It's hard not to react emotionally when you're being besmirched and questioned publicly. I'd implore him to take a 30-foot aerial view of this instance (and his own). There were certainly trolls and jealousy involved in both instances, but the overarching goal, in both cases, was to be benevolent to those same people you want to nurture and make sure have an awesome time in this hobby.

As far as your (and the cards') future, I hope you heed your own advice. Take care of these prospective people. The cards are still worth plenty, definitely more than what you theoretically would have paid in 2014. Keep the focus on that long-term. I think a detailed post with your intentions, whenever you figure them out, would serve you and your prospective relationship with these future hobby juggernauts would greatly benefit. Keep in mind, another unfortunate byproduct of this is that a simple google search will always be able to retrieve this thread.

As I stated before, I do not expect you to reply to this. You stated that you won't be replying or posting any further. That's your prerogative, and, I suppose it's fair. However, I do hope you'll see it and read it.

- Jay

I agree with this in its entirety.

Deadshot · 11-30-2018, 05:23 PM

I also want to add that BNC compiling his own list of questions and answering them in his one and only response shouldn't quite cut it. I understand that he might not want an endless back and forth, but at least give us a chance to compile a list of questions that need to be answered.

"Am I going to apologize for bumping cards? No"

Barbara Walters asking herself some hard-hitting questions here.

chezball · 11-30-2018, 05:23 PM

So basically you two guys blaming the dead guy.

mj2kb · 11-30-2018, 05:25 PM

Say the value of BGS 9 Lebron RPA is now $200K, so how much does the altered BGS 9 like #74 and #87 worth now? Do you guys think it still worth at least half of it? If you are in position to buy would you pay half of the market value for an altered card?

ThoseBackPages · 11-30-2018, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mj2kb

Say the value of BGS 9 Lebron RPA is now $200K, so how much does the altered BGS 9 like #74 and #87 worth now? Do you guys think it still worth at least half of it? If you are in position to buy would you pay half of the market value for an altered card?

great question.

with at least 2% of the print run trimmed, its hard to say

Noah · 11-30-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mj2kb

Say the value of BGS 9 Lebron RPA is now $200K, so how much does the altered BGS 9 like #74 and #87 worth now? Do you guys think it still worth at least half of it? If you are in position to buy would you pay half of the market value for an altered card?

I would not, but i would not touch a psa Jordan card with an OC qualifier either. I'm sure it's worth half for some guy just to say he has it though and try to be a member of the secret society that DevinKurant is in

mj2kb · 11-30-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

great question.

with at least 2% of the print run trimmed, its hard to say

If you are in a position to buy, would you pay half of the market value for these cards? Half of the market value still a lot, and I don't think I can pay that much money knowing these cards are altered. Curious what others think about this.

ThoseBackPages · 11-30-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mj2kb

If you are in a position to buy, would you pay half of the market value for these cards? Half of the market value still a lot, and I don't think I can pay that much money knowing these cards are altered. Curious what others think about this.

that is a great question

theleica · 11-30-2018, 05:32 PM

Half market value in less than 10 years, when he is inducted into the HOF, is probably more than it's current value.

mj2kb · 11-30-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theleica

Half market value in less than 10 years, when he is inducted into the HOF, is probably more than it's current value.

So you would buy from Eric now if he offers you half of the market value? (assuming you are in the position to buy this card).

theleica · 11-30-2018, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mj2kb

So you would buy from Eric now if he offers you half of the market value? (assuming you are in the position to buy this card).

Honestly, it is only going to go up in value so if I was offered it at half and I had the money, yes I'd buy it. If that was the only copy to buy.

KhalDrogo · 11-30-2018, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mj2kb

Say the value of BGS 9 Lebron RPA is now $200K, so how much does the altered BGS 9 like #74 and #87 worth now? Do you guys think it still worth at least half of it? If you are in position to buy would you pay half of the market value for an altered card?

Well, if I had the money I would just wait until an unaltered copy was available. I'm sure many others feel differently.

ThoseBackPages · 11-30-2018, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Well, if I had the money I would just wait until an unaltered copy was available. I'm sure many others feel differently.

what if there arent any?

KhalDrogo · 11-30-2018, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

what if there arent any?

Wait. I'm not spending six figures on an altered piece of cardboard.

AbraCalabro · 11-30-2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Wait. I'm not spending six figures on an altered piece of cardboard.

Hey, just wanted to chime in here while my servants go to the store to get me more Grey Poupon. If you're selling 6 dollar cards like a peasant, you'll never, ever be able to afford one of those cards, so why don't you keep on dreaming pal.

Oh, hold on my new nail clippers just arrived. brb

theLUCKYshow · 11-30-2018, 05:51 PM

Wait mcgahee is banned? Geez when did that happen?

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chezball · 11-30-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Wait mcgahee is banned? Geez when did that happen?

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he's not banned.

theLUCKYshow · 11-30-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

he's not banned.

Isn't that him?

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KhalDrogo · 11-30-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Wait mcgahee is banned? Geez when did that happen?

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He left after he bashed on Prizm. First it was a bloodbath. Then it had no RC autos except for an Ayton mojo. Which he conveniently neglected to mention he had purchased and was going to list it for well over what he paid for it.

KhalDrogo · 11-30-2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

Hey, just wanted to chime in here while my servants go to the store to get me more Grey Poupon. If you're selling 6 dollar cards like a peasant, you'll never, ever be able to afford one of those cards, so why don't you keep on dreaming pal.

Oh, hold on my new nail clippers just arrived. brb

One day I hope to be able to afford a $12 card. A boy can dream.

ThoseBackPages · 11-30-2018, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

Hey, just wanted to chime in here while my servants go to the store to get me more Grey Poupon. If you're selling 6 dollar cards like a peasant, you'll never, ever be able to afford one of those cards, so why don't you keep on dreaming pal.

Oh, hold on my new nail clippers just arrived. brb

dude, low form picking on 6BUX!

seriously, he should ask if he can make his username "GOT 6 dollars"

would be a great inside joke

chezball · 11-30-2018, 06:03 PM

he's not banned from here, he's inactive. Not sure what platform that is where he's banned.

theLUCKYshow · 11-30-2018, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

he's not banned from here, he's inactive. Not sure what platform that is where he's banned.

Through tapatalk. Ok so there is a chance he come back.

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ballhawkdawk · 11-30-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

Hey, just wanted to chime in here while my servants go to the store to get me more Grey Poupon. If you're selling 6 dollar cards like a peasant, you'll never, ever be able to afford one of those cards, so why don't you keep on dreaming pal.

Oh, hold on my new nail clippers just arrived. brb

ROFL @ the new nail clipper comment.

Siberian13 · 11-30-2018, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VIII

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfsAHEnh...=1sc1tfkeh8w4o

I am in talk with him on a high dollar transection. So it would really help if we know who actually owns this card. By the way, the deal is not related to this card but he did claim he has the card. If he is lying then he is scamming. If he does have it, then we have a whole another issue...

Couldn’t you just ask him to take a current photo with his name and today’s date on a piece of paper. I’ve seen people do that here.

11-30-2018, 05:23 PM	#727
Deadshot Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 7,694	I also want to add that BNC compiling his own list of questions and answering them in his one and only response shouldn't quite cut it. I understand that he might not want an endless back and forth, but at least give us a chance to compile a list of questions that need to be answered. "Am I going to apologize for bumping cards? No" Barbara Walters asking herself some hard-hitting questions here. __________________ He said he name was “E”, so I introduced myself as “G”...The license plate said “IMNBITZ” or “IMNBISZ” or something. - G YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPuD3WYJ0rkpLqDdyavC2WA

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mj2kb Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 287 dewa19	Say the value of BGS 9 Lebron RPA is now $200K, so how much does the altered BGS 9 like #74 and #87 worth now? Do you guys think it still worth at least half of it? If you are in position to buy would you pay half of the market value for an altered card? __________________ Instagram: rpryana

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chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,680 jabber	So basically you two guys blaming the dead guy.

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theleica Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,381	Half market value in less than 10 years, when he is inducted into the HOF, is probably more than it's current value.

11-30-2018, 06:03 PM	#747
chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,680 jabber	he's not banned from here, he's inactive. Not sure what platform that is where he's banned.