Harper vs. Trout

[kyle1707]

Trout has to be in top 10 for greatest first 4 years of all time..

And I totally expect him to be in conversation for greatest of all time in next 10 years

With health 500/3000 is there for this guy... slowing down is probably not going to happen...

[seabass97166]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

Trout has to be in top 10 for greatest first 4 years of all time..

[TarjetasBéisbol]

Let it play out, both are doing amazing and why can't we just enjoy this era of baseball?

[seabass97166]

Originally Posted by TarjetasBéisbol

Let it play out, both are doing amazing and why can't we just enjoy this era of baseball?

Between those 2, Correa and Bryant baseball is in good hands!!

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by exitmusicblue

Fair points. However, if Harper joins up with the Yanks (while Trouty could very well be a Halos lifer), the resulting hype madness plus long-term effects will be like nothing we've seen before.

Trout would be the Mays, Harper would be the Mantle.

Well, considering Mays has better career numbers, more MVPs, and Mantle was injured and dealt with alcohol, I would take that comparison all day.

[sickmantz]

Originally Posted by davidk

boggles my mind...

trout's gonna be 24 next season. How can his best years be behind him? some stuff people say... just really makes you go hmmm

I like both. Trout and Harper. I mean, if I had to build a team around someone right now, Trout. I'd like to see 2 or 3 more years of this from Harper before saying he's better than Trout or equal to trout.

Trout's been on an mvp or mvp runner up status for like 4 years now.

So as of now, I prefer Trout. As I've always said, we're watching modern day Mickey Mantle without the drinking, partying and all the negative stuff.

And no, we've yet to see the best of Trout and Harper. I think Trout will have a 50+ HR year before his career is over. Maybe several 50+ HR years, who knows.

Same goes for Harper, but I still have my reservations about Harper cause of injuries. People forget so quick but before this year, he was injury prone. If he goes through 2-3 years in a row without missing half of season, then we'll see.

You're betting Trout will improve on one of the greatest seasons of all time? He's not that type of player anymore. He's changed the style of his game. He strikes out too much and he doesn't run the way he used to.

I'm not being hyperbolic when I say his best years are behind him. He peaked extremely early. Say the peak was 100. If he spends the next 10 years between 90 and 95 is that really a bad thing? No, but it's still not 100.

[seabass97166]

Originally Posted by sickmantz

You're betting Trout will improve on one of the greatest seasons of all time? He's not that type of player anymore. He's changed the style of his game. He strikes out too much and he doesn't run the way he used to.

I'm not being hyperbolic when I say his best years are behind him. He peaked extremely early. Say the peak was 100. If he spends the next 10 years between 90 and 95 is that really a bad thing? No, but it's still not 100.

He might not improve on that rookie season where he stole 49 bags hit .325 and hit 29 bombs and scored like 129 runs..

BUT..he can certainly improve on last 2 seasons where he had some bad months and didn't even hit .300 (and not 100 RBIs last year) Had nobody on base. I'm sure he will have plenty of gas in the tank to top what he's done the last few years. And better players around him....time will tell. But I'm sure in the next 5-6 years he will have at least a few years that make you go woah

[californiakron]

I wouldn't bet against either of these two. Should be a joy to watch as long as both stay healthy.

[exitmusicblue]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

Well, considering Mays has better career numbers, more MVPs, and Mantle was injured and dealt with alcohol, I would take that comparison all day.

:oints to card comparisons, the basis for the comment::

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by davidk

boggles my mind...

trout's gonna be 24 next season. How can his best years be behind him? some stuff people say... just really makes you go hmmm

I like both. Trout and Harper. I mean, if I had to build a team around someone right now, Trout. I'd like to see 2 or 3 more years of this from Harper before saying he's better than Trout or equal to trout.

Trout's been on an mvp or mvp runner up status for like 4 years now.

So as of now, I prefer Trout. As I've always said, we're watching modern day Mickey Mantle without the drinking, partying and all the negative stuff.

And no, we've yet to see the best of Trout and Harper. I think Trout will have a 50+ HR year before his career is over. Maybe several 50+ HR years, who knows.

Same goes for Harper, but I still have my reservations about Harper cause of injuries. People forget so quick but before this year, he was injury prone. If he goes through 2-3 years in a row without missing half of season, then we'll see.

Exactly this. Trout is Mickey Mantle reincarnated. If the Mick hadn't tripped on that drainpipe this is what he would have been and the Mick still ended up getting better.

Originally Posted by seabass97166

He might not improve on that rookie season where he stole 49 bags hit .325 and hit 29 bombs and scored like 129 runs..

BUT..he can certainly improve on last 2 seasons where he had some bad months and didn't even hit .300 (and not 100 RBIs last year) Had nobody on base. I'm sure he will have plenty of gas in the tank to top what he's done the last few years. And better players around him....time will tell. But I'm sure in the next 5-6 years he will have at least a few years that make you go woah

And this. Trout had the best season in the AL this year. Donaldson won the MVP because voters put too much emphasis on the team's performance.

What makes it scary is Trout hasn't even entered his prime yet.

Harper is awesome. I'm glad he finally had a season where he lived up to the hype. Boy, it is good to be a baseball fan!

[exitmusicblue]

Proud to have cards of both in the PC. They will keep making baseball better for years to come.

[rcearley]

Originally Posted by exitmusicblue

Proud to have cards of both in the PC. They will keep making baseball better for years to come.

Same here, why can't we all just get along?!

[halofan25]

Just watch and enjoy. So lucky to be able to watch Trout every day out here in SoCal

[awz50]

Originally Posted by seabass97166

HAHAHAHHAHA


Machado...

[chansen10]

Originally Posted by sickmantz

You're betting Trout will improve on one of the greatest seasons of all time? He's not that type of player anymore. He's changed the style of his game. He strikes out too much and he doesn't run the way he used to.

I'm not being hyperbolic when I say his best years are behind him. He peaked extremely early. Say the peak was 100. If he spends the next 10 years between 90 and 95 is that really a bad thing? No, but it's still not 100.

I absolutely hate hate hate when people say this type of thing. Does it seriously matter how many times you strike out when you hit 40HR .300 and an OBP at .400?? What the hell is the difference if he strikes out or groundsout? hes going to be an all time great barring injury.

[halofan25]

Originally Posted by chansen10

I absolutely hate hate hate when people say this type of thing. Does it seriously matter how many times you strike out when you hit 40HR .300 and an OBP at .400?? What the hell is the difference if he strikes out or groundsout? hes going to be an all time great barring injury.

Agreed to an extent. If you hit 40 homeruns, you'll take the 160 strikeouts.

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

That's a really poor narrative. Have you watched Trout play? If the media had drilled into peoples heads that he was cocky, people would probably say the same thing, both players though play with confidence, neither are cocky.

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To answer the OP's question though, I think Trout probably has the better long term value. Both should be amazing players, but I think Trout has a better shot at staying on the field (unless Harper eventually slows down a little).

Harper is cocky... And arrogant. Ask ANY of his teammates. He's above hustling when there is no benefit to him or the team (he was benched for dogging it). You have never seen Trout dog it. Ever. Harper has been told since a high schooler that he is already a HOFer. Trout hasn't had the hype. Harper was even voted the most overrated player in MLB by his PEERS. Trout is respected. Harper is tolerated, but I think he is maturing. I love them both. But Harper needs to grow up more as a player. I think he will. Amazing that we have so much young, awesome talent. It's like the 50s.

[MikeWilliamsFan]

Looking back at this...I would still take trout. I do however wish trout was the type of guy who hit .330 and stole 40 bases with around 30 home runs and not as many strikeouts

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by MikeWilliamsFan

Looking back at this...I would still take trout. I do however wish trout was the type of guy who hit .330 and stole 40 bases with around 30 home runs and not as many strikeouts

I agree, but last year when Trout didn't have much help (Pujols wasn't as good as this year), he carried the team offensively and won the MVPS. This year he had better cast with Pujols doing well, Calhoun, and others. If you look as his projected stats, he's at a better first few years than most all of the greats in history. But I agree, I would like his average and steals to be higher.

[kyle1707]

I usually don’t do things like this

But I have been on here since the start .. I have not done something this dumb in along time

Bringing back a 8 year old thread. There are actually a dozen threads like this .. but I will choose a his one ..

Harper and Trout are probably half way done with there careers …

Are we still sure Mike Trout is going to end up the more decorated player when it is all said and done ?

I stole this from another member on a different thread

Trout at age 29:

1419 Hits
310 HR
.305 BA
816 RBI
3x MVP


Harper at age 29 (projected using his yearly average):

1390 Hits
295 HR
.279 BA
843 RBI
2x MVP

And in the card side. Trouts stuff is 10x the value of Bryce

[Cards and 401K]

Both are great home grown players. Entering their prime MLB years. Hobby love for 1.

10 yrs from now both will benefit from a universal DH.

Harper seems to be improving and Trout has been amazingly consistent.

I Hope they both stay Healthy! and get WS rings.

[soey10]

I am glad that Bryce Harper had a good year and added another MVP award, on the other hand it is bad for us all to have Mike Trout miss almost the entire year.

The comparisons made above are done without Trout having an real numbers this season.

I like the comparison from 2013 when people were comparing Harper and Trout to Mays and Mantle

Both Trout and Harper playing well at a high level is good for baseball all around and we should all be thankful that we will get to watch these guys play in real time.

[Fratboy]

Harper has more of a love for the game, observing from a distance.

not sure

[REGGIE206]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I usually don’t do things like this

But I have been on here since the start .. I have not done something this dumb in along time

Bringing back a 8 year old thread. There are actually a dozen threads like this .. but I will choose a his one ..

Harper and Trout are probably half way done with there careers …

Are we still sure Mike Trout is going to end up the more decorated player when it is all said and done ?

I stole this from another member on a different thread

Trout at age 29:

1419 Hits
310 HR
.305 BA
816 RBI
3x MVP


Harper at age 29 (projected using his yearly average):

1390 Hits
295 HR
.279 BA
843 RBI
2x MVP

And in the card side. Trouts stuff is 10x the value of Bryce

TROUT played a career total of 1288 games while Harper played 1283.. so it’s fair to compare their total numbers:

TROUT vs HARPER

RUNS: 967 | 850
HIT: 1419 | 1273
HR: 310 | 267
RBI: 816 | 752
SB: 203 | 111
BA: .305 | .279
OBP: .419 | .392
SLG: .583 | .524
OPS: 1.002 | .916
WAR: 76.1 | 40.1

ALL STAR: 9 | 6
MVP: 3 | 2
MVP TOP 5: 9 | 2
SILVER SLUGGER: 8 | 2

[Fratboy]

Originally Posted by REGGIE206

TROUT played a career total of 1288 games while Harper played 1283.. so it’s fair to compare their total numbers:

TROUT vs HARPER

RUNS: 967 | 850
HIT: 1419 | 1273
HR: 310 | 267
RBI: 816 | 752
SB: 203 | 111
BA: .305 | .279
OBP: .419 | .392
SLG: .583 | .524
OPS: 1.002 | .916
WAR: 76.1 | 40.1

ALL STAR: 9 | 6
MVP: 3 | 2
MVP TOP 5: 9 | 2
SILVER SLUGGER: 8 | 2

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I'm just happy Harper won his 2nd MVP... We already know what Trout has done