First Buzz: 2025 Topps Heritage High Number baseball cards

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Osfan81

I’d like to remind everybody that the best rookie from this year is a dh/1b. Long term, he won’t hold value. See for example: Pete Alonso. Other rookies like Mayer, Smith and Campbell will need to step up for the value of these to be remotely close to $90 in 2 years.

I think he meant the case price will be $600 in a few years.

Don't forget that some here believe that the best rookie in 2025 may be an MVP candidate next year and that these box prices could surpass those of 2024 heritage high numbers in a few years.

[phil]

Originally Posted by bub838

Love Heritage High but passed on these. Don’t see the huge draw to this years, they’ll be $600 in a couple years.

Yet to be seen if Fanatics would let that level of dumping happen to a mainstream product they hope to sell in future years.

[rudan007]

I was in for $89, but they went 1 dolla too high

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

I snagged a case of that 2022 HHH a couple years haxk for $500 and it felt like a xhore to open. And I hit a Julio auto redemption!

HHN cases aren't as much fun to open as regular Heritage for the simple reason that each box contains almost an entire base set, and generally fewer superstars and/or autos.

This year, Kurtz is the only big-name RC, and Devers was the best player traded.

And of the retired players, only Yount didn't have an auto in regular Heritage.

[sandyfrank]

Originally Posted by Osfan81

I’d like to remind everybody that the best rookie from this year is a dh/1b. Long term, he won’t hold value. See for example: Pete Alonso. Other rookies like Mayer, Smith and Campbell will need to step up for the value of these to be remotely close to $90 in 2 years.

Wow I am much more confident in Nick Kurtz than you are I guess LOL. I see him as a potential perennial MVP candidate.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by phil

Yet to be seen if Fanatics would let that level of dumping happen to a mainstream product they hope to sell in future years.

2023 HHN was released under Fanatics and cases have gotten as low as the $500's.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by bub838

2023 HHN was released under Fanatics and cases have gotten as low as the $500's.

1974 Topps is not a particularly popular design.

It may be a shock to those who buy everything in sight, but many Heritage collectors are design-sensitive and only collect the years for which they like the design.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by sandyfrank

Wow I am much more confident in Nick Kurtz than you are I guess LOL. I see him as a potential perennial MVP candidate.

Year two is usually the key indicator for guys like Kurtz, since that's when teams and pitchers figure out your weaknesses/holes and start exploiting them.

There have been a lot of sluggers over the years who have had great rookie years and then faded once teams figure out how to attack them.

Rhys Hoskins is a good example, as is Pete Alonso, who despite having a very solid career, has never matched his rookie year output.

[seanbros55]

On the fence at $90

[bub838]

Originally Posted by mfw13

1974 Topps is not a particularly popular design.

It may be a shock to those who buy everything in sight, but many Heritage collectors are design-sensitive and only collect the years for which they like the design.

I was responding to the post questioning if Fanatics would allow one of its products to be dumped at a low price.

It has nothing to do with the design.

[spcmnspff]

Really appreciate the pre-order heads up email from Topps coming in at 4:03pm PT this afternoon.

HHN isn’t really my thing, so not terribly bent out of shape, but ffs can we get these “notifications” to be a bit more timely??


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[PuddleMonkey]

Suckers

[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

I dont think they are making retail of this. This likely means Hobby PR is way up, and thus the reason for the lowered cost. The lack of odds sorta confirm this. Topps likes to play games by not releasing these early on.

I would be shocked if that happened.

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by tribefan26

I would be shocked if that happened.

The box mock up has the Hobby Only emblem on it.

[phil]

Originally Posted by bub838

2023 HHN was released under Fanatics and cases have gotten as low as the $500's.

They're a lot more involved/better at controlling and manipulating the market now. We will see if it works.

[MotorboatJones]

I bought my 5 boxes because I like the design and I enjoy opening Heritage. Everyone is always just focused on ROÍ. I’m looking forward to it. If you expect the price of a hobby box to be much lower than $89, you should give up because it won’t get much lower than this.

[timber63401]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

I bought my 5 boxes because I like the design and I enjoy opening Heritage. Everyone is always just focused on ROÍ. I’m looking forward to it. If you expect the price of a hobby box to be much lower than $89, you should give up because it won’t get much lower than this.

That was my thought process. I'm a sucker for Heritage and it will be hard to get destroyed at this price point. I was gonna be completely out at 139 and just buy 2 boxes if it was 119 but at 89 these days its as good as its gonna get at release.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

I bought my 5 boxes because I like the design and I enjoy opening Heritage. Everyone is always just focused on ROÍ. I’m looking forward to it. If you expect the price of a hobby box to be much lower than $89, you should give up because it won’t get much lower than this.

Bingo.

The downside to High Number is that you don't need to buy a lot to complete the set. Two boxes will get you all 200 base cards and 16 out of the 25 SP's and you can usually trade for the other 9 SP's you need. Buy a third box, and you probably have two complete base sets and almost all the SP's.

There's no need to buy much more than that....

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Bingo.

The downside to High Number is that you don't need to buy a lot to complete the set. Two boxes will get you all 200 base cards and 16 out of the 25 SP's and you can usually trade for the other 9 SP's you need. Buy a third box, and you probably have two complete base sets and almost all the SP's.

There's no need to buy much more than that....

But it’s still gambling since u can’t get a full set from one box, right?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

But it’s still gambling since u can’t get a full set from one box, right?

There’s nothing wrong with disciplined gambling in our hobby.

It’s the compulsive degenerate gambling that should be frowned upon.

Repeatedly paying $250 for a box of 2025 HHN would be considered compulsively degenerate.

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

There’s nothing wrong with disciplined gambling in our hobby.

It’s the compulsive degenerate gambling that should be frowned upon.

Repeatedly paying $250 for a box of 2025 HHN would be considered compulsively degenerate.

Agreed. A huge part of my business is disciplined gambling. It's all about identifying a product with a high floor and known commodities. There was a time where the 3 base + SP sets and 7 additional sets would cover the case cost. It left virtually no risk on everything else.

The price increase over time has increased the risk, but I would still consider HHN one of the least riskiest products in today's market. I was too busy at work yesterday to even realize this was releasing but if the pre-sale price from Big 3 is reasonable, this is a product that will be on my list this year.

[bulljh]

The checklist is out. Kurtz and a couple other targeted rookies are Sp’s. I’m not sure how heritage missed out on a Kurtz nickname variation card, but they did.

[timber63401]

Originally Posted by bulljh

The checklist is out. Kurtz and a couple other targeted rookies are Sp’s. I’m not sure how heritage missed out on a Kurtz nickname variation card, but they did.

Some will hate it but I like the big RC is a SP.

[TarjetasBéisbol]

Nice to see the checklist and even though of course it's a long shot, good to see an Ohtani auto.

[ClevelandIC]

Originally Posted by TarjetasBéisbol

Nice to see the checklist and even though of course it's a long shot, good to see an Ohtani auto.

Judge, too! Pretty cool to see them both. According to the odds I saw on X - it looks like 3-4 Autos a case again. No retail. This feels like an ok product for all facets - rip for fun, rip & flip and hold. Really interesting product in my opinion