Shyne thread?

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Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

On the latest live episode (the last I’ll be watching) they tried hard to pretend they were not bought off. But it’s clear by the way they talk about him that since he bought them a pricey dinner at some chain steakhouse that now he’s a great guy for the hobby. The same thing BG has been doing for years, way back to when he ran that garbage razor into the ground. Remember when BG sent out the unreleased sp list from his card company to certain people who supported him? In return by doing this screwing over all the other people who supported his garbage product and listed their cards on eBay not knowing some are sp’ed and BG friends all bought them up before he announced which are SP’ed.

So it seems like a cheap date the 2 bananas can be bought off by a chain restaurant meal. I used to follow everything they did (scr) but since they finally showed where their morals lie I’m going to bow out from that trash. As suspected by many since day 1, SCR are no better than anyone they judge on a weekly basis. As with most things in life, the people who are the loudest need to be watched the closest .

Like I brought up in the other thread (before it got deleted for some reason), the main dude from SCR was a ticket scalper for years as his biggest source of income

That says it all imo

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

On the latest live episode (the last I’ll be watching) they tried hard to pretend they were not bought off. But it’s clear by the way they talk about him that since he bought them a pricey dinner at some chain steakhouse that now he’s a great guy for the hobby. The same thing BG has been doing for years, way back to when he ran that garbage razor into the ground. Remember when BG sent out the unreleased sp list from his card company to certain people who supported him? In return by doing this screwing over all the other people who supported his garbage product and listed their cards on eBay not knowing some are sp’ed and BG friends all bought them up before he announced which are SP’ed.

So it seems like a cheap date the 2 bananas can be bought off by a chain restaurant meal. I used to follow everything they did (scr) but since they finally showed where their morals lie I’m going to bow out from that trash. As suspected by many since day 1, SCR are no better than anyone they judge on a weekly basis. As with most things in life, the people who are the loudest need to be watched the closest .

Yes, I remember all too well the numberous scams and shadiness from his FCB days. He seems to latch onto people and try to manipulate them.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

Yes, I remember all too well the numberous scams and shadiness from his FCB days. He seems to latch onto people and try to manipulate them.

what is FCB?

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

what is FCB?

I think it is FreedomCardBoard. A different forum that was once popular.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

Hobby has always been about money and gambling to a point

But now it seems so dirty and seedy

Feels like the mob is running it

I think it's because of the pandemic boom, which brought a lot of new money into the hobby. Whenever there is a lot of money involved and a lack of regulation, you're going to have shady behavior.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by notfast

Came back to read and it’s gone?

"And that's that."

"Now go home and get your Shyne box."

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Wait. This Shyne person is a convicted drug dealer?

Anyone? Thank you

[boxbuster7]

Read the room Bob - nobody knows anything about the guy

[seanbros55]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Anyone? Thank you

We are joking because Shyne (the rapper) took a 9-year attempted murder bid at that $#!+eater Puffys behest.

Apparently this other upstanding citizen, also “named” Shyne, is just a suspected drug dealer….

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

Yes, I remember all too well the numberous scams and shadiness from his FCB days. He seems to latch onto people and try to manipulate them.

Yeah another two bite the dust and show their true colors. Funny they (scf) attack that guy with that dip sound clip who was caught stealing hits in breaks. Fun fact that scammers name was Gilmore over at fcb, he ran the place. That was BG’s buddy who bg/razor paid off for blind support on his forum, even having his own subforum at one point. Gilmore was One of the first people he gave things to who blindly supported anything they released. The mods would attack anyone who pointed out what trash razor was and how BG acted more like a fraudster than an owner. They would ban and delete comments about shady crap.

Just like these 2 bananas will do now.

(Full disclosure I’m sure you know all this I’m posting for the room who may not know this)

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Read the room Bob - nobody knows anything about the guy

I did read the room but all the innuendos were crossing my wires lol.

Originally Posted by seanbros55

We are joking because Shyne (the rapper) took a 9-year attempted murder bid at that $#!+eater Puffys behest.

Apparently this other upstanding citizen, also “named” Shyne, is just a suspected drug dealer….

I remember the rapper Shyne story and him taking that gun charge. Who the hell knows what P Diddle threatened him with to take that.

Thanks guy!

[Twalk1975]

Maybe this dude testified against someone and that's why no one can find any information about him. I am not a lawyer, but can't they seal records or somehow redact his name from the files?

[rms13]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

I did read the room but all the innuendos were crossing my wires lol.



I remember the rapper Shyne story and him taking that gun charge. Who the hell knows what P Diddle threatened him with to take that.

Thanks guy!

I have a pretty good idea what he was threatened with based on recent things that have come to light about Diddy

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Twalk1975

Maybe this dude testified against someone and that's why no one can find any information about him. I am not a lawyer, but can't they seal records or somehow redact his name from the files?

What perfect way to conceal oneself by plastering photos of yourself on social media taking private jet rides with celebrities and showing off some of the most expensive and high-profile modern sports collectibles.

His 71k followers on the Gram are none the wiser.

[fabiani12333]

More likely he's an undercover narc, infiltrating the highest levels of the hobby by spending wildly on cards. He's documenting and filing regular reports on the corruption in the hobby with his superiors at the Fed.

Basically, he's Serpico.

[boxbuster7]

I'll throw out a guess that probably isn't too popular

his family has money

[Twalk1975]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

What perfect way to conceal oneself by plastering photos of yourself on social media taking private jet rides with celebrities and showing off some of the most expensive and high-profile modern sports collectibles.



His 71k followers on the Gram are none the wiser.

People get complacent.



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[PFF100]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

More likely he's an undercover narc, infiltrating the highest levels of the hobby by spending wildly on cards. He's documenting and filing regular reports on the corruption in the hobby with his superiors at the Fed.

Basically, he's Serpico.

I can’t wait for the movie


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[PFF100]

Originally Posted by rms13

I have a pretty good idea what he was threatened with based on recent things that have come to light about Diddy

Lmfaooooo


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[nothinbefore]

Originally Posted by Twalk1975

Maybe this dude testified against someone and that's why no one can find any information about him. I am not a lawyer, but can't they seal records or somehow redact his name from the files?

Could be.. also another thing his friends are in the Legal Green business, So when we see "drug trafficking" don't be quick to assume Nose-Hockey..he could've been growing in another state and got caught driving making store drop-offs...the green medical herb's isn't legal federally. They still mess with people who owns businesses & plus they can't keep the money in banks so would explain him moving money into cardboard to get it off easier maybe?

[Pollo Asado]

Pretty clear that sports cards and memorabilia is still the wild west. The same sentiments and rants are no different than 15-20 years ago (my frame of reference). And presumably before.

[boxbuster7]

clearly Michael Rubin didn't do his research

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

clearly Michael Rubin didn't do his research

Would he even care?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Anyone? Thank you

SCR reported on their livestream that he was sentenced to 9 years in 2005 for trafficking in 2,000 pounds of cocaine -- he only did 4 years of his sentence.

[jimz]

Originally Posted by nothinbefore

Could be.. also another thing his friends are in the Legal Green business, So when we see "drug trafficking" don't be quick to assume Nose-Hockey..he could've been growing in another state and got caught driving making store drop-offs...the green medical herb's isn't legal federally. They still mess with people who owns businesses & plus they can't keep the money in banks so would explain him moving money into cardboard to get it off easier maybe?

I am a lawyer (and nothing I say should be construed as legal advice especially since we are talking about hypotheticals and speculations) and this is hilarious. The legal pot industry is heavily state-regulated and under the current interpretation of the dormant commerce clause, the feds can intervene even if it’s contained entirely within a state (see: Gonzalez v. Raich). Nobody is going to risk a legitimate license for what is now essentially a line of work the cartels don’t even see economic value in, and the feds don’t care all that much since there’s actual bigger fish to fry and they prefer the broad and generally unpopular Raich holding too much to create a situation where it could be challenged. The feds pick their battles - it’s how they can get a conviction rate on par with China’s even though there’s not even a semblance of a legitimate judicial system in China. The feds don’t win every case, but with plea bargaining, they’re in the mid to upper 90s in terms of resolving the case in their favor.

And money laundering through cardboard would be, well, frankly, incredibly stupid, since big ticket items attract attention, and if you have enough to need to launder through such means you have a myriad of ways that are easier and less transparent than through cardboard. Topps sends me two copies of their newsletter for some reason, and receipts. KYC/AML doesn’t work, but the incessant nature of marketing alone creates enough paper trail that is open to scrutiny if something actually fishy is going on. The fact is most of the time one launders money not with someone not in on the act (who would want a cut as well) but essentially with themselves. Oh, and there are high-risk payment processors who do handle pot business and transactions in the realm, just not the national banks. There are creative ways to legally protect your income, but since there’s no prescriptive KYC/AML checklist set by congress, there are credit unions, neobanks, brokerages and all sorts of institutions in addition to banks that can take on the business. It’s less convenient, but Wells Fargo is certainly responsible for more fraud than the hobby industry can generate, full stop.

There’s sketchy stuff in every industry, and the hobby is no exception, except the fact that all of the ones raised in this thread are at most unethical except for the frauds that are already illegal, and even that seems to be misconstrued. Yes, selling fake cards would be fraud… if you knew ahead of time that they are fake. Very few hobby transactions are of the amount that would interest the feds, since they have limited resources and in order to win their cases, they actually have to determine whether it’s worthwhile to chase a case. The media is generally crap at reporting legal news - J school isn’t law school, and lawyers don’t become journalists often since it’s a lot of debt to take on. The feds have already decided that it has little interest to go after the biggest fish in the space - potential antitrust issues with Fanatics and associated self-dealing - everything else pales in comparison and are civil matters or really, regular people acting in their own self interest that is not exactly ethical but doesn’t violate any laws. The fact is that if it’s sketchy and illegal, it’s regulated - the legality is regulation by its nature. Anything with government sanction, both definition of the word sanction, is regulated, but it doesn’t have to be direct. There won’t be a US Department of Hobby because it would be pointless and a waste of taxpayer money, remember that most Americans are not actively engaged in any part of our hobby, especially those who pay taxes.

And expanding the hobby is what we want, no? I collect baseball cards and memorabilia because first and foremost I love the sport even if I actively dislike the conduct of the commissioner and many of the owners of the clubs and the anti-trust exemption. The sport will outlive all of them. I think it’s natural to expand into appreciating and learning about the sport through collecting - it certainly taught me a lot when I was a kid - and nostalgia is powerful, and our heroes will always seem larger than life. If people choose to speculate, it’s their pereogative, but it’s not one where it’s easy to actually turn a profit, especially as a side gig. If people wants to get into the hobby by pooling resources - which is why you have corporate entities in the first place - that is nevertheless still expanding the hobby, no? And this is a country with open courts which is a good thing, and many cases filed are frivolous for various reasons. It’s like how bar complaints are mostly filed against public defenders because we have no choice in our clients and the system is skewed towards coercion and frequently our clients have a lot of free time to write complaints because we never learned the Jedi Mind Trick needed to get them out of their predicament. If you have 120 open felony cases to handle and basically no budget, unwinnable trials won’t help anyone. You can learn about the outlines of cases in public records - dockets are generally public, and protective orders are extremely rare in civil cases not involving trade secrets or minors and policy disfavors them. They are more common in criminal cases but not by much. More importantly they are generally time-barred because of 6th Amendment concerns and have nothing to do with LLCs or shell companies, which are perfectly legal unless they do something illegal - which would be illegal regardless of who does it. Your personal curiosity doesn’t overcome the right to privacy, after all. It’s easier to pierce the veil in some states than others, but if you’re not a party to the proceedings, why do you need to know anyway? The whole point is to limit personal liability and avoid comingling of personal and business matters. It’s a good thing that such a system can exist, otherwise the court system can easily ensure that no innovation can happen because being personally liable in a business setting is usually ruinous. Most companies are not shady, many are dormant, and money doesn’t inherently create corruption - a corruptable regulator is needed, and the classic examples are the likes of the SEC and FDA.

Look, if there are parts of the hobby you don’t like, don’t participate in it. Voting with your wallet and feet goes a long way. Some of the speculation in this thread make assumptions that are almost exactly the opposite of how real life works. Remember that Law and Order is treated as comedic vaudeville by many lawyers and for every good use of OSINT there are 15 bad ones. The stupid 2013 Boston Marathon manhunt on Reddit should have been a lesson. The fact that Tsarnaev was found in a boat down the street that I walk by every day when I lived in Watertown was just the bonus insert card.