eBay "make an offer" now requiring payment info up front?

[glen87]

Originally Posted by Swipe79

I don't mind it - I'm actually more inclined to accept offers that are pre-paid.

I thing pre-payment should be required for new or low feedback users. Once you are more established, it could be optional.

sense this is still new and we are figuring this out as we go, what will you do if/when this happens to you as a seller.

i see you have free shipping on your items, someone comes along and makes good offers on 20 cards. by the looks of it "technically" you would have to ship 20 packages so each one could be tracked and marked as delivered.

i am not familiar with the ese shipping (which i am guessing you use).

[AwesomeBrian]

Originally Posted by JeffG1954

Is it you in the program, or is it that the sellers you are making offers with have opted into the payment required setting?

Can't remember how it initiated. I made a thread here about on June 2nd. My gripe at that time was that it only allowed you to pay one way. I use multiple things to pay, not sure if that has changed yet.

[BeardedVol]

a little off topic, but I didnt see any threads about it - the new USPS Ground Advantage shipping is much slower than First Class - I had cards sitting at a St Louis Sorting facility for up to 3 days before finally departing - really has been messing up Ebays estimated ( and USPS estimated as well) delivery dates & makes sellers look like slow shippers by using this service instead of 1st Class

[KhalDrogo]

Submitted an auto-pay offer. Seller accepted. No notification that he accepted though.

[BeardedVol]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Submitted an auto-pay offer. Seller accepted. No notification that he accepted though.

I never know either - have to look at purchases to find out - Ebay has alot of flaws as of late - it does not auto pay on a counter offer Ive noticed

[DynaEtch]

So you have to put in payment info to bid in auctions now? This seems new

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

So you have to put in payment info to bid in auctions now? This seems new

Haven't had that come up yet. But that is the logical and necessary next step.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Haven't had that come up yet. But that is the logical and necessary next step.

Just bid on an auction a few minutes ago and it required payment info.

I feel like some sellers might not like that though since it could result in less bidding. Have to enter a payment card

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

So you have to put in payment info to bid in auctions now? This seems new

For me it's an option...here are the 2 current options that I have not opted in for.....at least not yet:

Buyer Payment Requirements

Require buyers to provide a payment method before they place a bid.

Require buyers to provide a payment method before they make an offer.

[Cactuspies]

I just had the add payment method for bids pop up yesterday and I hate it already.

1. cannot use gift cards, spendable funds, payment or split payments or anything besides the one method. Which then goes to this for COMC, you cannot combine, cannot pay from COMC funds and hold, they will have to ship, and then you have to rely on them to refund each overpay or send all individual packages. I contacted them earlier because their account is current set up for this.

2. have to trust sellers are going to refund excess shipping
3. cannot combine shipping
4. auctions are going to go for a lot less right now because if you are like me you want to combine shipping with other items.
5. as seller, cannot fix or adjust on the app, has to be web to opt out, you are being forced in/defaulted in.
6. ebay is going to collect some nice extra fees for each transaction that includes shipping
7. probably start suspending sellers for excessive partial refunds!
8. probably more sellers refunding and relisting with lower sale prices than expected

I get it with the NPB issues, I'm a buyer and seller, and right now as a buyer after 24 hours I hate it. I've only purchased one item and have passed on a ton. I read on reddit someone won something super cheap, their max was $109 HIGHER than the ending price.

The consigners are probably getting hit the worst, dcsports87 did turn it off, comc no, not sure on the others out there.

[Breesus85]

Have not had any best offer’s immediately paid as of yet. I don’t have the option turned on. Hopefully eBay keeps this as a seller option and doesn’t make it mandatory.

[Stech36]

Originally Posted by Cactuspies

I just had the add payment method for bids pop up yesterday and I hate it already.

1. cannot use gift cards, spendable funds, payment or split payments or anything besides the one method. Which then goes to this for COMC, you cannot combine, cannot pay from COMC funds and hold, they will have to ship, and then you have to rely on them to refund each overpay or send all individual packages. I contacted them earlier because their account is current set up for this.

2. have to trust sellers are going to refund excess shipping
3. cannot combine shipping
4. auctions are going to go for a lot less right now because if you are like me you want to combine shipping with other items.
5. as seller, cannot fix or adjust on the app, has to be web to opt out, you are being forced in/defaulted in.
6. ebay is going to collect some nice extra fees for each transaction that includes shipping
7. probably start suspending sellers for excessive partial refunds!
8. probably more sellers refunding and relisting with lower sale prices than expected

I get it with the NPB issues, I'm a buyer and seller, and right now as a buyer after 24 hours I hate it. I've only purchased one item and have passed on a ton. I read on reddit someone won something super cheap, their max was $109 HIGHER than the ending price.

The consigners are probably getting hit the worst, dcsports87 did turn it off, comc no, not sure on the others out there.

I just bid on something on comc and didn’t have to put in payment info.

It will be the end of comc for me if this becomes the standard. I pretty much exclusively buy/sell using comc credit now.

The logical step to this is to have it automatically pay after a certain time frame of auction ending/offer accepted. Maybe 24 or 48 hours. Gives you time to combine auctions

[glen87]

Originally Posted by Cactuspies

I just had the add payment method for bids pop up yesterday and I hate it already.

1. cannot use gift cards, spendable funds, payment or split payments or anything besides the one method. Which then goes to this for COMC, you cannot combine, cannot pay from COMC funds and hold, they will have to ship, and then you have to rely on them to refund each overpay or send all individual packages. I contacted them earlier because their account is current set up for this.

2. have to trust sellers are going to refund excess shipping
3. cannot combine shipping
4. auctions are going to go for a lot less right now because if you are like me you want to combine shipping with other items.
5. as seller, cannot fix or adjust on the app, has to be web to opt out, you are being forced in/defaulted in.
6. ebay is going to collect some nice extra fees for each transaction that includes shipping
7. probably start suspending sellers for excessive partial refunds!
8. probably more sellers refunding and relisting with lower sale prices than expected

I get it with the NPB issues, I'm a buyer and seller, and right now as a buyer after 24 hours I hate it. I've only purchased one item and have passed on a ton. I read on reddit someone won something super cheap, their max was $109 HIGHER than the ending price.

The consigners are probably getting hit the worst, dcsports87 did turn it off, comc no, not sure on the others out there.

if that is the case it will SIGNIFICANTLY cut my buying on ebay down.
i use gift cards for about 90% of my purchases.

[Cactuspies]

Here is a comc that just ended if I were to bid. It's a test with certain accounts, I just happen to be one. I also checked my selling requirements and it was auto turned on for my selling, so I've turned it off now.

About gift cards, they can be used, but if the seller has the pay upon winning option you can't use it. It has to be the bank account/debit or credit card on file.

[JeffG1954]

Until they make it a system wide requirement, I will stay opted out of requiring buyers to provide payment info prior to bids or offers. Who knows, might get me more/higher bids than those with the same cards that do opt in.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Cactuspies

. It's a test with certain accounts, I just happen to be one.

I guess that’s what’s happening with me. I have never not paid for an item I won…and yet I have to enter payment info when bidding on an auction now. So maybe it’s just random, if not everyone is doing it yet.

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I guess that’s what’s happening with me. I have never not paid for an item I won…and yet I have to enter payment info when bidding on an auction now. So maybe it’s just random, if not everyone is doing it yet.

I don't know that it has anything to do with you as a buyer....it's the seller whose auction you are bidding on that has opted into the program. If you want to check and see if it's something you are doing, I could PM you my eBay ID and you could make a fake offer on one of my items.....I have not opted into the program so in theory you shouldn't have to provide payment info to bid or offer in any of my listings.....LMK if you want the PM.

[ToastGhost47]

Terrible move to require payment info for bids. That should be only required for new accounts or those with non-pay strikes. My payment method depends on how much $ i've got in my hobby account, how much spendable funds I have, whether a card has a cashback incentive, etc. I don't want to commit to that days in advance or scramble to change it last second.

[HRderby22]

While not perfect, I think these changes are a step in the right direction. I make a lot of best offers and my success rate in this format is already 4 for 5. As a buyer, I think it makes offers much stronger because it's the bird in hand as they say.

For auctions I can see why many won't like it, but unfortunately like with most laws and rules, they're necessary to protect ourselves from the worst among us. The non paying Ebay buyer is out of control.

[coltsfan23]

Originally Posted by ToastGhost47

Terrible move to require payment info for bids. That should be only required for new accounts or those with non-pay strikes. My payment method depends on how much $ i've got in my hobby account, how much spendable funds I have, whether a card has a cashback incentive, etc. I don't want to commit to that days in advance or scramble to change it last second.

100%

This seems like an absolute disaster especially for high price items considering credit limits.

[MyckKabongo]

Just to add one more reason why the payment info required to bid sucks: Paypal Credit Promotional Financing. If I let > $100 dollars of winnings on multiple low end cards pile up in the cart, I can then pay in one combined purchase with PayPal Credit which gives 0% for six months. This free leverage is absolutely essential for my business model.

I have literally never not paid on a won auction. The "worst" thing I've ever done is make sellers wait 2-3 days occasionally for payment.

Absolutely pathetic by eBay if they cannot figure out how to target this on risky accounts. I have a 25 year old account with an impeccable record. C'mon now!

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

Just to add one more reason why the payment info required to bid sucks: Paypal Credit Promotional Financing. If I let > $100 dollars of winnings on multiple low end cards pile up in the cart, I can then pay in one combined purchase with PayPal Credit which gives 0% for six months. This free leverage is absolutely essential for my business model.

I have literally never not paid on a won auction. The "worst" thing I've ever done is make sellers wait 2-3 days occasionally for payment.

Absolutely pathetic by eBay if they cannot figure out how to target this on risky accounts. I have a 25 year old account with an impeccable record. C'mon now!

As far as I know, as of yet eBay is not forcing this on sellers, it's optional. If that is true, just find sellers who are not requiring payment info for bids and/or offers. It does happen, but it's rare that you can't find the same card from multiple sellers and you can likely find a seller with what you want who hasn't opted into the payment info required program.

[maneonemo]

Auto pay sucks:
1. weekend currency conversion spreads/fees suck, so when I win something expensive in a foreign currency during the weekend I want to wait till the markets open on late Sunday to pay to save some money in fees
2. depending on the amount the auction ends at I might want to use a different shipping address or payment method
3. I sometimes like to add a message when paying. I don't want to spend time writing it down beforehad I even know if I win the auction (that's not even an option rn I believe). If I autopay seller might ship the item before I message him with a shipping request (like a packaging req for instance).
4. ppl can still put a transaction limit on their card (e.g. set it to 1$) and any payment is going to be declined, so it doesn't help the seller
5. if it's optional, sellers that like their auctions shill bid will keep it turned off, so how is that supposed to help with the price discovery?

[Swipe79]

I offer automatic discounts when buyers purchase more items - so most people who buy 10+ items are already taking advantage of my discount of 50% on that quantity and aren't making offers.

In your scenario, I would combine all of their orders together and ship First Class instead of ESE. The sucky part would be paying $6.00 in fees versus .30 on a single transaction. I combine orders regularly when people purchase singles - it's not a big deal by any means.

I had someone buy three autographed baseballs through offers last week and I just refunded shipping on one of them to take care of the overage.

On a case-by-case basis, it's not really that hard to deal with.

Originally Posted by glen87

sense this is still new and we are figuring this out as we go, what will you do if/when this happens to you as a seller.

i see you have free shipping on your items, someone comes along and makes good offers on 20 cards. by the looks of it "technically" you would have to ship 20 packages so each one could be tracked and marked as delivered.

i am not familiar with the ese shipping (which i am guessing you use).

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Cactuspies

I just had the add payment method for bids pop up yesterday and I hate it already.

1. cannot use gift cards, spendable funds, payment or split payments or anything besides the one method. Which then goes to this for COMC, you cannot combine, cannot pay from COMC funds and hold, they will have to ship, and then you have to rely on them to refund each overpay or send all individual packages. I contacted them earlier because their account is current set up for this.

2. have to trust sellers are going to refund excess shipping
3. cannot combine shipping
4. auctions are going to go for a lot less right now because if you are like me you want to combine shipping with other items.
5. as seller, cannot fix or adjust on the app, has to be web to opt out, you are being forced in/defaulted in.
6. ebay is going to collect some nice extra fees for each transaction that includes shipping
7. probably start suspending sellers for excessive partial refunds!
8. probably more sellers refunding and relisting with lower sale prices than expected

I get it with the NPB issues, I'm a buyer and seller, and right now as a buyer after 24 hours I hate it. I've only purchased one item and have passed on a ton. I read on reddit someone won something super cheap, their max was $109 HIGHER than the ending price.

The consigners are probably getting hit the worst, dcsports87 did turn it off, comc no, not sure on the others out there.

Can the seller combine shipping?