Ebay partnering with CSG to authenticate cards - Page 3

solt0131 · 01-26-2022, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Asian62150

This kind of move is almost forcing ppl to check out other options like myslabs.

And when sellers get there and see the 1% fees and no nonsense with fishy buyers, they ain't going back to ebay.

Should also make auction houses and card shows more popular.

Between this and the $600 1099's, card shows in 2022 are about to blow the F up.

Luni · 01-26-2022, 05:15 PM

I think a lot of you guys are missing the point. Ebay isn't doing this to help determine fakes, it is 100% to lower the amount of scamming on their platform. I'm sure they are getting super tired of all of the 'item not as described' returns and this is their way of dealing with it. Will it suck for buyers because they have to wait an extra week or 2 to get their card? Absolutely. However, I do think it will help with the major issue most people had with selling on Ebay which was getting scammed and Ebay almost always choosing to side with the buyer.

The biggest question with this service, is what is it going to cost going forward once the 'trial/free' period is over and who is going to pay for it?

Yankees2020 · 01-26-2022, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

As long as it ain't PSA, we gucci.

I welcome our new drab green overlords. Hope they really push for the slabbed crown while PSA works tirelessly to clear a 537 year backlog.

Legend has it that they're still grading cards from the beginning of the pandemic.

Tim · 01-26-2022, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Luni

I think a lot of you guys are missing the point. Ebay isn't doing this to help determine fakes, it is 100% to lower the amount of scamming on their platform. I'm sure they are getting super tired of all of the 'item not as described' returns and this is their way of dealing with it. Will it suck for buyers because they have to wait an extra week or 2 to get their card? Absolutely. However, I do think it will help with the major issue most people had with selling on Ebay which was getting scammed and Ebay almost always choosing to side with the buyer.

The biggest question with this service, is what is it going to cost going forward once the 'trial/free' period is over and who is going to pay for it?

Every word in this post is spot on.

grade · 01-26-2022, 06:07 PM

For those that do not know. CGC does not slab all Pokemon cards. How can they authentic cards that they cannot even slab? Now add sports cards and vintage cards. There is going to be alot of Logan Paul situations. BBCE type authentication confidence being wrong. What then ?

sportsyard · 01-26-2022, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Thank you!

I absolutely smoked you in that little card picking contest I challenged you to in the summer BTW. You'll notice my Curry Exquisite pick has absolutely skyrocketed. What was the challenge again? 10K? Good thing you didnt step up.

Nomad · 01-26-2022, 10:03 PM

wait, when was the last year of Exquisite

Archangel1775 · 01-27-2022, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

wait, when was the last year of Exquisite

NBA logo stuff was 2009/10 I believe.

I only pull for · 01-27-2022, 10:14 AM

The more important question in all of this is who really cares what CSG says? These guys are new to the card scene and haven't proven themselves enough to be taking on this type of responsibility.

mc1 · 01-27-2022, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by I only pull for

The more important question in all of this is who really cares what CSG says? These guys are new to the card scene and haven't proven themselves enough to be taking on this type of responsibility.

I guess you would rather have PSA in charge of this project? Or maybe Beckett? Sure.

JWBlue · 01-27-2022, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by I only pull for

I'm not a fan of Blackstone, so I can't say I'm rooting for their success.

Can I ask why?

I own stock but am open minded.

ballhawkdawk · 01-27-2022, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

As long as it ain't PSA, we gucci.

I welcome our new drab green overlords. Hope they really push for the slabbed crown while PSA works tirelessly to clear a 537 year backlog.

It takes eight years to get your PSA PhD to locate scuffs, corner wear, and measure centering. They’re working on it.

I only pull for · 01-27-2022, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mc1

I guess you would rather have PSA in charge of this project? Or maybe Beckett? Sure.

So, asking for a company with a proven track record is asking for to much?
Gotcha...

Clyde725 · 01-27-2022, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by I only pull for

The more important question in all of this is who really cares what CSG says? These guys are new to the card scene and haven't proven themselves enough to be taking on this type of responsibility.

My understanding is that eBay is backing it. So if CSG is wrong and it is inauthentic, you'd get your money back. At least that's what I think would happen. I did look at the FAQs and nothing specifically addressed this. Anybody else see anything on this? It would kind of defeat the purpose of the "Authenticity Guarantee" otherwise.

Also interested to know what eBay would do to the Seller if CSG found it authentic and the Buyer later discovered it as inauthentic. It seems to me that eBay/CSG should eat the cost.

mc1 · 01-27-2022, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by I only pull for

So, asking for a company with a proven track record is asking for to much?
Gotcha...

PSA has millions and millions of cards in their backlog. I hear theres still cards they received in 2020 waiting for grading.

They kind of have their hands full.

BGS is a trainwreck, youve said so yourself.

I only pull for · 01-27-2022, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mc1

PSA has millions and millions of cards in their backlog. I hear theres still cards they received in 2020 waiting for grading.

They kind of have their hands full.

BGS is a trainwreck, youve said so yourself.

How did this become a PSA and BGS debate?
When did I say I want to see PSA or BGS involved?
CSG has no proven track record in the sports card industry, so how are they qualified to take this task on? CSG also has a huge backlog if you're not aware.

KhalDrogo · 01-27-2022, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Clyde725

My understanding is that eBay is backing it. So if CSG is wrong and it is inauthentic, you'd get your money back. At least that's what I think would happen. I did look at the FAQs and nothing specifically addressed this. Anybody else see anything on this? It would kind of defeat the purpose of the "Authenticity Guarantee" otherwise.

Also interested to know what eBay would do to the Seller if CSG found it authentic and the Buyer later discovered it as inauthentic. It seems to me that eBay/CSG should eat the cost.

All items are final sale after authentication unless the seller accepts return. It is not known what would happen if you receive an item that is fake, but CSG mistakenly authenticated. All of the TPGs make mistakes. It will happen. It is not clear if you have any recourse as a buyer.

mc1 · 01-27-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by I only pull for

How did this become a PSA and BGS debate?
When did I say I want to see PSA or BGS involved?
CSG has no proven track record in the sports card industry, so how are they qualified to take this task on? CSG also has a huge backlog if you're not aware.

It doesnt matter. Fact is CSG is working with ebay on this.

90skid · 01-27-2022, 01:22 PM

Who wants to be the first to try it out? Would love to see the story of how some of these initial processings pan out:

threepointplay · 01-27-2022, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 90skid

Who wants to be the first to try it out? Would love to see the story of how some of these initial processings pan out:

An auction with 40+ bids from a buyer with [0] feedback? I think I will pass.

mc1 · 01-27-2022, 01:48 PM

Fake card!

They could save everyone the trouble and cancel that listing.

k13 · 01-27-2022, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by threepointplay

An auction with 40+ bids from a buyer with [0] feedback? I think I will pass.

CSG says its authentic you get to keep it

I only pull for · 01-27-2022, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

It doesnt matter. Fact is CSG is working with ebay on this.

I agree. When things don't work out with CSG maybe eBay can reach out to HGA for this service after all they've been around a year, too.

cboog3105 · 01-27-2022, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by I only pull for

I agree. When things don't work out with CSG maybe eBay can reach out to HGA for this service after all they've been around a year, too.

you act like ccg hasnt been around for 20 years

Clyde725 · 01-27-2022, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

All items are final sale after authentication unless the seller accepts return. It is not known what would happen if you receive an item that is fake, but CSG mistakenly authenticated. All of the TPGs make mistakes. It will happen. It is not clear if you have any recourse as a buyer.

Seems crazy to not have any recourse as a buyer. What kind of "Authenticity Guarantee" is that then? Nothing against CSG, but I agree they will make mistakes. Especially if they are trying to move quickly and keep costs down (whether its eBay paying or the buyer).

01-26-2022, 05:15 PM	#52
Luni Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NC, USA Posts: 1,406 Luninutz Luni	I think a lot of you guys are missing the point. Ebay isn't doing this to help determine fakes, it is 100% to lower the amount of scamming on their platform. I'm sure they are getting super tired of all of the 'item not as described' returns and this is their way of dealing with it. Will it suck for buyers because they have to wait an extra week or 2 to get their card? Absolutely. However, I do think it will help with the major issue most people had with selling on Ebay which was getting scammed and Ebay almost always choosing to side with the buyer. The biggest question with this service, is what is it going to cost going forward once the 'trial/free' period is over and who is going to pay for it? __________________ Kevin Garnett Collector https://www.instagram.com/luni_kg 2018-19 Prizm Rainbow Status: 38/38 - Now Complete! Last edited by Luni; 01-26-2022 at 05:18 PM.

01-27-2022, 01:48 PM	#71
mc1 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11,208	Fake card! They could save everyone the trouble and cancel that listing. __________________ B.I.D.

01-26-2022, 06:07 PM	#55
grade Banned Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 3,113	For those that do not know. CGC does not slab all Pokemon cards. How can they authentic cards that they cannot even slab? Now add sports cards and vintage cards. There is going to be alot of Logan Paul situations. BBCE type authentication confidence being wrong. What then ?

01-26-2022, 10:03 PM	#57
Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	wait, when was the last year of Exquisite

01-27-2022, 10:14 AM	#59
I only pull for Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,461	The more important question in all of this is who really cares what CSG says? These guys are new to the card scene and haven't proven themselves enough to be taking on this type of responsibility.

01-27-2022, 01:22 PM	#69
90skid Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,853	Who wants to be the first to try it out? Would love to see the story of how some of these initial processings pan out: