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![]() They had a 2-card promo set released around this time (through Pizza Hut), many people might remember them. ![]() 1993 Marvel Pizza Hut X-Men - [Base] #_NoN - Uncanny X-Men Group Courtesy of COMC.com ![]() 1993 Marvel Pizza Hut X-Men - [Base] #_NON - Magneto vs Professor X Courtesy of COMC.com I believe these were totally separate from the vending stickers, which were just in coin-op machines filled with general prism stickers on the premises. One clue is the above were licensed promos, presumably from an agreement between Pizza Hut and Marvel, whereas the vending stickers were completely unauthorized.
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Also those two Pizza Hut promos were packaged with two X-Men VHS tapes
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In addition to the mammoth amount of bootleg super-hero and horror movie stickers, there were also fully authorized releases that included The Simpsons, Scooby-Doo, and Looney Tunes. I'm certain of those because I have some of each and they are very well made with the proper copyright information and such.
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I also had the two Pizza Hut X-Men VHS cards. The VHS's were episodes of the X-Men animated series. |
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Sounds like they were at places like the grocery store and Toys R Us also based on what jdandns said. The only question is...exactly who was making these unlicensed marvel prism vending stickers. It's admirable the effort they put into them, including redrawing/coloring the art.
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Also the writer touches on a good point mentioned above by Rictor- the appeal of the simplified line art and shadowing. He compares it to vintage pack wrapper art...there is a certain charm in those old 70s and 80s Topps pack wrappers...it's fun art. This is decidedly not what Upper Deck did with their new backscatter stickers in Marvel Annual. The difference of a sticker being an insert buried in a pack vs one that needs to sell itself on display in a vending machine to discriminating buyers (much as a pack wrapper would have to do on display in a shop).
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I think what happened is the company wanted to sell their vending machines, but they needed appealing stickers to supply to the machines and drive sales. So they just made their own bootleg stickers to help sell their machines. Last edited by fabiani12333; 04-23-2023 at 06:45 PM. |
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To update my earlier post on the 93 Masterpieces prism stickers.
This set is fascinating because there seems to be no rhyme or reason for the different patterns..it seems totally random among the 25 characters in how the patterns differ. Some have 2 patterns, some have 3. None have all 4 as far as I know. There is no checklist available anywhere. Nslists doesn’t differentiate the patterns in their checklist. Here is the most current attempt, but I’d be interested if anyone can add to this- do you have, or have you seen any pattern variation not listed below? The 4 patterns again, Punisher: Wave, Thanos: Checker, Hawkeye: Circle, Spider-Man 2099: Cracked Ice ![]() ![]() Checklist Archangel: wave, circle Beast: wave, circle Bishop: wave, checker Cable: wave,checker Captain America: circle,cracked ice Carnage: checker, cracked ice,wave Colossus: wave, circle Cyclops: wave, checker, cracked ice Darkhawk: cracked ice, circle Doom 2099: wave, cracked ice, checker Gambit: wave, circle Ghost Rider: wave, cracked ice, checker Havok: wave, circle Hawkeye: cracked ice, circle Hulk: wave, checker, cracked ice Jean Grey: wave, checker, cracked ice Magneto: wave, checker, cracked ice Punisher: wave, checker, cracked ice Rogue: wave, checker,cracked ice Sabretooth: wave, checker Shatterstar: cracked ice, circle Silver Surfer: circle, cracked ice Spider-Man 2099: checker, wave, cracked ice Thanos: wave, checker, cracked ice Venom: checker, wave, cracked ice Diecuts: Cyber: checker, wave Iron Man: checker, wave, cracked ice Storm: checker, wave, cracked ice Thor: checker, wave Wolverine: checker, wave, psychedelic
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These fringe items are what makes collecting fun! I’m glad you were the one to land it. I figured someone would snag it up real fast after I saw it, given the rarity.
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Magneto similarly has the same 3 variants Rogue also has the same 3 variants Your list is missing the die-cuts: Cyber: checkered, waves Iron Man: checkered, waves, cracked ice Storm: checkered, waves, cracked ice Thor: checkered, waves Wolverine: checkered, waves, psychedelic!!! I'm ALMOST done with this set, though 4 of the cracked ice stickers eludes me...>_< |
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Thank you! I updated the list with your information. I was totally unaware there were cracked ice versions of the diecuts besides the Wolverine psychedelic. Never saw them. Makes me wonder if they made the whole 5 card set in cracked ice.
If you come across any more variations, let me know and I’ll update the checklist. I need just 5 for the main set now, three cracked ice, a checker, and a wave. Edit: Just got this bad boy in: ![]() From what I observe, not all variations are on equal footing. Some are much more rare than others. A general rule of thumb, cracked ice seem to be the more rare variations (though not always). Waves seem to be easiest to pick up (though not always). This set is all over the place. It took me awhile to find the Thanos above.
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From 1992 MM stickers, it seems like only the X-Men characters got the cracked ice treatment. The X-Men were really popular at the time due to the animated series. The Cyclops and Wolverine stand out to me the most.
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![]() ![]() This set, and a few others are particularly frustrating to me because I am OCD so I can't start collecting it knowing there's a distinct possibility I won't be able to finish it...but yes, it is a big mish-mash of comic sourcing. Directly from Amalia Barrios's website: SuperHero Stars: These have a metallic/silver surface. There are 12 in the set and come numbered with the number bordered by a star. 1 Magnus Robot Fighter 2 Diehard 3 Spawn 4 Warlock 5 The Pitt 6 Cyber 7 Wolverine vs. Sabretooth 8 Shaft 9 Solar, Man of the Atom 10 Shadow Hawk 11 Venom, Carnage & Spidey 12 Shatterstar Last edited by exotechktx; 04-24-2023 at 10:02 PM. |
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What's up with Wolverine's hair being left white lol.
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Joined specifically for this thread! Learned about a lot of new cards from this!
Also wanted to share some info on the first 1992 set. In 2014 i walked into a Rocky Rococo pizza restaurant in Madison, WI and came across what appeared to be a vending machine pulled right out of 1992, fully stocked. This had to have been sitting in the back of a warehouse or something. It had Dinosaur, a mix of Batman Returns and Beauty and the Beast, hearts and stars and a full slot of 1992 Marvel Masterpieces stickers. Needless to say, I spent $50 in quarters emptying it out. I ended up selling most of them off to collectors, kept a set for myself. From what I recall, Silver Surfer was the rarest among what was in this machine. It had about 8 or 9 sets. Of note, the entire machine was fully stocked, and the set only included the first set of 15, non-bordered cards, none of the X-men cards. I'd guess those cracked ice X-men cards were sold as their own set in different machines, not mixed with the first 15. I took photos of the machine at the time with my crappy phone (some of these are smaller as I had to pull them from my 2014 instagram post). I knew it was a once in a lifetime thing. I tried to find the company that ran their vending machines to see if they had any more, but no luck. After a few months it got swapped out with a newer machine. Needless to say, that got me into collecting more of these. In the process of collecting the 1993 set now. ![]() As a graphic designer, i find it interesting that the first 1992 set of 15 have white backing color around the characters, which makes the holo pattern not visible through the character, but usually the background. Where the X-men set are fully transparent, no white ink backing, anything that's white is just transparent through to the foil. Notable because printing white opaque backing first is more expensive. I thought about trying to replica a Wolverine card from the origina 1992 MM art since that art didnt get the proper treatment and it's my favorite. There is a sticker company called StickerApp that prints on the square prism pattern foil from the 1992 set, so it would be possible. Last edited by Talyn; 08-01-2023 at 10:09 AM. |
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That completely makes sense the 92 Masterpieces X-Men cracked ice stickers were from a whole different batch/set and not intermixed. What impresses me the most about these stickers is they were done so well...a major part of nonsports cards of the time...and yet they were unauthorized cheapos thrown into vending machines. They look better than current stickers Upper Deck is putting out, a legit card company in the business of making cards. I always thought it was strange they used different art for the Surfer and Wolverine. It would be super cool to see Jusko's classic 92MM Wolverine art as a prism sticker (cracked ice perhaps because x-men). Edit: don’t even get me started on this one… ![]() Technically the 92MM Wolverine exists as a sticker shown here but it’s not quite the same. Doesn’t have the painting background, and however they transferred the painting to line art here…it just didn’t carry over well. Something seems off about this compared to the regular card…I guess in the face. The 93MM sticker set is a tough one to collect. It's not bad if you just go for one of each character, but it gets nuanced with all the different prism variations. Im still not certain my list of possible variants is exhaustive...trying to put together a true master list at the moment.
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Speaking of the list of 93MM stickers....here is the most current complete list:
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-Jean Grey cracked ice -Rogue cracked ice -Die-cut Iron Man cracked ice -Die-cut Storm cracked ice I cant remember seeing cracked ice for the die-cuts, thought it was just wave and checker. Also...why are only those two cracked ice...and why is seemingly ONLY the wolverine in psychedelic? Arrgghhh....questions, questions.
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As such, I can't verify personally that they exist. With that said, I could have sworn up and down that I had a Jean Grey one (I marked it in my tracker as such)...but lo and behold when I went back to verify...I...don't?AND, it turns out I am missing 5, 4 of which are these in question (legitimately missing Hulk)...so perhaps there is some credence that wherever I originally got the list from, it might not be all verifiable. |
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I went ahead and put a (?) next to each of the ones in question in that list, just until visual confirmation can be made. I think it's very possible they exist, but will make it official once anyone can find one. I can personally confirm Hulk exists in checker, wave, and cracked ice, as I have those 3. Im missing the question marked ones above, plus randomly the Cable checker that I cant seem to find (I know it exists having seen it before, but it remains elusive).
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Yea, I see one on the Bay but there's no chance I'm willing to pay anywhere close to 33 for it,
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