Need Help Regarding Trout 1/1

[rcearley]

Originally Posted by speedyjg13

You making this a bigger card than it is.

PCSPORTSCARDS

PROBSTEIN

PWCC

these are the big 3 consigners. Pick one of those, be happy with whatever you get and move on

My vote would be with PCSPORTSCARDS, best in the business.

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by rcearley

My vote would be with PCSPORTSCARDS, best in the business.

same, I've used them as well and satisfied with their services

[BabaORiley]

I concur. PC did very well with my 1st batch of consignment cards. Was pleased with every aspect of the business and had a couple cards go for more than comps from Probstein and PWCC. Added bonus being I don't want to support PWCC or Probstein so PC was the obvious choice for me.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

Market has not spoken. There were people saying they don’t ever look at auction houses and that they look at every other place. I tried an auction house that specializes in vintage collectibles and the bidders did not bid on my item, now it’s time to give another auction a try and maybe a different crowd. Only then will I be able to say that I covered all areas and be happy with the true market value.

Wait people told you that they don’t ever look at auction houses but they still didn’t offer what you wanted for the card. It sounds like you just really want to keep this card.

[ayalar09]

So not sure if anyone is interested but I decided, I would sell the card straight up to someone for 10K. Price is negotiable of course, but 10K seems to be the number that feels right to me.

Might sell for less than that at auction. Might sell for more. But thats the price it would take for me to sell it to someone right now. Hope that makes sense. Honestly, I feel just blessed to have such a great card I paid $260 for.

He's also playing absolutely out of his mind right now, and with the VD Superfractor ending in about 11 days, I think his prices will actually take off higher than they already are. Which is crazy because I thought he hit his ceiling.

I think his new baby is really inspiring him right now.

The plan is right now to send the card to PC on Friday. They are the only ones I will consign with. Honest people who have gotten glowing reviews from numerous other people in the community!

[1deh1]

My advice is to not listen to what people value your card at. People will have their own opinions. Here is a video that featured my 1/1 Mike Trout card and they couldn’t come up with an estimate only giving it the value “??????”. There are cards you can use comps on but with 1/1’s it’s really tough, especially if your 1/1 is the first of it’s kind and is unique. Just my opinion.

https://youtu.be/VmE-fC4ywmM

[koreanmarklee]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

My advice is to not listen to what people value your card at. People will have their own opinions. Here is a video that featured my 1/1 Mike Trout card and they couldn’t come up with an estimate only giving it the value “??????”. There are cards you can use comps on but with 1/1’s it’s really tough, especially if your 1/1 is the first of it’s kind and is unique. Just my opinion.

https://youtu.be/VmE-fC4ywmM

It seems callous to completely ignore advice of people who follow Mike Trout's prices extensively because "people will have their own opinions".
They might be off by a couple hundred dollars or so, maybe even a thousand, but I highly doubt that the price would deviate significantly from the prices they give.
For your card, people gave you a 3K estimate. Heck, I gave you a 3K estimate and provided comps for it. It didn't sell for 3K. Well, let's see how it does at auction.

[koreanmarklee]

Originally Posted by ayalar09

So not sure if anyone is interested but I decided, I would sell the card straight up to someone for 10K. Price is negotiable of course, but 10K seems to be the number that feels right to me.

Might sell for less than that at auction. Might sell for more. But thats the price it would take for me to sell it to someone right now. Hope that makes sense. Honestly, I feel just blessed to have such a great card I paid $260 for.

He's also playing absolutely out of his mind right now, and with the VD Superfractor ending in about 11 days, I think his prices will actually take off higher than they already are. Which is crazy because I thought he hit his ceiling.

I think his new baby is really inspiring him right now.

The plan is right now to send the card to PC on Friday. They are the only ones I will consign with. Honest people who have gotten glowing reviews from numerous other people in the community!

As for the Luminaries 1/1, the exact same card(with the letter T) sold for 1727 dollars 3 days ago.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283973040844

I completely understand not wanting to sell for below 10K(that would be a PC card if I pulled it) but a market value has been set for it and I don't think it will reach that amount.

[1deh1]

Originally Posted by koreanmarklee

It seems callous to completely ignore advice of people who follow Mike Trout's prices extensively because "people will have their own opinions".
They might be off by a couple hundred dollars or so, maybe even a thousand, but I highly doubt that the price would deviate significantly from the prices they give.
For your card, people gave you a 3K estimate. Heck, I gave you a 3K estimate and provided comps for it. It didn't sell for 3K. Well, let's see how it does at auction.

Many people gave me $800-$1500 valuations when I first posted my card on here then were surprised when someone came and posted that they offered me $6,500. We’ll see the true value eventually.

[koreanmarklee]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

Many people gave me $800-$1500 valuations when I first posted my card on here then were surprised when someone came and posted that they offered me $6,500. We’ll see the true value eventually.

I distinctly remember giving it a 3-3.5K valuation with comps from the cards from the same set(I remember Ohtani, Posey, and Contreras?) and the 1/1 2019 Dynasty card. Trout collectors gave similar estimations if I remember correctly.

Not impossible to comp, and it's incredibly arrogant to advise others to ignore all advice...

[koreanmarklee]

Also, more people were surprised that you rejected a 6.5K offer rather than the fact that somebody offered it 6.5K.

[1deh1]

What I meant is to not have other valuations distract him from what he believes his card is valued at. If he thinks his card is for example $10k and nothing lower then don’t let anyone change that. Nothing arrogant about believing that your card is worth more than what others think.


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[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

Many people gave me $800-$1500 valuations when I first posted my card on here then were surprised when someone came and posted that they offered me $6,500. We’ll see the true value eventually.

Can't take anything you say seriously when you claim that the snake oil salesman Goldin is one of the best

[excel_b]

I have shipped $5k card before... I have shipped $24,500 basketball card before... Doesn't scare me at all.

Gotta give more trust in our good ol' USPS!

[doowopbruce]

EBAY!

[koreanmarklee]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

What I meant is to not have other valuations distract him from what he believes his card is valued at. If he thinks his card is for example $10k and nothing lower then don’t let anyone change that. Nothing arrogant about believing that your card is worth more than what others think.


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What's wrong about getting valuations to help set realistic expectations on price? For example, I found that the same Luminaries 1/1 sold for 1.7K. Now, this SHOULD change what the OP believes the card is worth - nothing wrong with not selling it for anything less than 10K(and treating it as a PC card) or setting it for 10K and feeling for offers, but there is clear comp that can't be ignored.

It's not arrogant to believe that your card is worth more than what others think..but it's arrogant, and frankly stupid, to blindly believe that your card is worth more than what others think when faced with mountains of evidence to suggest otherwise.

[1deh1]

Originally Posted by koreanmarklee

What's wrong about getting valuations to help set realistic expectations on price? For example, I found that the same Luminaries 1/1 sold for 1.7K. Now, this SHOULD change what the OP believes the card is worth - nothing wrong with not selling it for anything less than 10K(and treating it as a PC card) or setting it for 10K and feeling for offers, but there is clear comp that can't be ignored.

It's not arrogant to believe that your card is worth more than what others think..but it's arrogant, and frankly stupid, to blindly believe that your card is worth more than what others think when faced with mountains of evidence to suggest otherwise.

Ok OP, I think you know what to do now... according to someone’s valuation you must post on eBay with a listing of $2k obo which is a couple hundred dollars above his clear valuation. I’m almost positive OP wont sell his 1/1 Trout for less than $2k lol

If you don’t OP then you are ARROGANT for going against the market price!!

[stevenab87]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

What I meant is to not have other valuations distract him from what he believes his card is valued at. If he thinks his card is for example $10k and nothing lower then don’t let anyone change that. Nothing arrogant about believing that your card is worth more than what others think.


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That’s literally arrogance.


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[koreanmarklee]

Originally Posted by koreanmarklee

nothing wrong with not selling it for anything less than 10K(and treating it as a PC card) or setting it for 10K and feeling for offers

Originally Posted by 1deh1

Ok OP, I think you know what to do now... according to someone’s valuation you must post on eBay with a listing of $2k obo which is a couple hundred dollars above his clear valuation. I’m almost positive OP wont sell his 1/1 Trout for less than $2k lol

If you don’t OP then you are ARROGANT for going against the market price!!

Can't you read?

[1deh1]

Originally Posted by koreanmarklee

Can't you read?

Last luminaries card sold for $1.7k so it’s ok to post for 5.88x (10k obo)?

So according to your math, you said my card has a “market value” of about $3,500 x 5.88 = $20,580

And you’re surprised I rejected a $6k offer? When does the “feeling for offers” like you said, end?.. since me rejecting $6k was wrong according to you?... $10k? $15k? $19k? —-> $20,580?

You said you were surprised that I rejected $6k. That’s equivalent to OP being offered roughly $2,500 to ~$3,000. How is that a surprise? If you’re now telling OP to put $10k obo why settle for a $3,000 offer? Hell, there’s about $7,000 more to be made!?!??

[Boo]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

Last luminaries card sold for $1.7k so it’s ok to post for 5.88x (10k obo)?

So according to your math, you said my card has a “market value” of about $3,500 x 5.88 = $20,580

And you’re surprised I rejected a $6k offer? When does the “feeling for offers” like you said, end?.. since me rejecting $6k was wrong according to you?... $10k? $15k? $19k? —-> $20,580?

You said you were surprised that I rejected $6k. That’s equivalent to OP being offered roughly $2,500 to ~$3,000. How is that a surprise? If you’re now telling OP to put $10k obo why settle for a $3,000 offer? Hell, there’s about $7,000 more to be made!?!??

I don't think cards are for you.
God Bless

[koreanmarklee]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

Last luminaries card sold for $1.7k so it’s ok to post for 5.88x (10k obo)?

So according to your math, you said my card has a “market value” of about $3,500 x 5.88 = $20,580

And you’re surprised I rejected a $6k offer? When does the “feeling for offers” like you said, end?.. since me rejecting $6k was wrong according to you?... $10k? $15k? $19k? —-> $20,580?

You said you were surprised that I rejected $6k. That’s equivalent to OP being offered roughly $2,500 to ~$3,000. How is that a surprise? If you’re now telling OP to put $10k obo why settle for a $3,000 offer? Hell, there’s about $7,000 more to be made!?!??

Jesus Christ...
Relevant Thread: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399751

There is a huge difference, a HUGE difference, between having an overpriced BIN price on eBay with the knowledge that the card is worth less than the BIN price and coming to Blowouts, posting a 3K card for 275K, insisting it's a 275K dollar card, and putting your fingers in your ears when knowledgeable people in the hobby tries to tell you otherwise.
See how everybody in the thread I posted above is saying that the seller was completely justified in his Wander Franco listing? The seller knows how much the card is worth, the high BIN is to discourage low-feedback buyers and squeeze maybe a couple more dollars out of people who make offers. If the seller gets an offer that's even 20% above market price, ex. 200 dollars, he's taking that price. You rejecting a 6.5K offer, nearly double that of the estimated market price? That's stupid. That is extremely stupid. Do you think the Wander seller would have rejected a 350 dollar offer on that card?

Of course, OP might not want to sell it below 10K and keep the card in the PC at that price. That's perfectly fine. It's his card, he can keep it or decide to not sell it unless it reaches a certain price. He doesn't have to accept offers below 10K, but he knows that the card isn't a 10K card and that he'll almost 100% never get an offer for 10K. Which means the card stays in his PC indefinitely, which I think the OP is fine with.

At this point, I think you're trolling, and please don't PM me again with your inane, asinine accusations.

[Zauron]

Originally Posted by 1deh1

Last luminaries card sold for $1.7k so it’s ok to post for 5.88x (10k obo)?

So according to your math, you said my card has a “market value” of about $3,500 x 5.88 = $20,580

And you’re surprised I rejected a $6k offer? When does the “feeling for offers” like you said, end?.. since me rejecting $6k was wrong according to you?... $10k? $15k? $19k? —-> $20,580?

You said you were surprised that I rejected $6k. That’s equivalent to OP being offered roughly $2,500 to ~$3,000. How is that a surprise? If you’re now telling OP to put $10k obo why settle for a $3,000 offer? Hell, there’s about $7,000 more to be made!?!??

What the...how did you get to this point?


We basically told OP to go ahead, put it up for $10k, field offers, but you aren't getting close to that. The better version of the card he has, the T, didn't even break $2k.

I would argue I don't even think your card breaks $2k. You were so set on your card bringing you over $10k it is laughable.

For OP card though, as mentioned, the market has been set. He isn't getting close to $10k for it. He might get $2k-$3k, but probably not.

[1deh1]

Originally Posted by koreanmarklee

Jesus Christ...
Relevant Thread: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399751

There is a huge difference, a HUGE difference, between having an overpriced BIN price on eBay with the knowledge that the card is worth less than the BIN price and coming to Blowouts, posting a 3K card for 275K, insisting it's a 275K dollar card, and putting your fingers in your ears when knowledgeable people in the hobby tries to tell you otherwise.
See how everybody in the thread I posted above is saying that the seller was completely justified in his Wander Franco listing? The seller knows how much the card is worth, the high BIN is to discourage low-feedback buyers and squeeze maybe a couple more dollars out of people who make offers. If the seller gets an offer that's even 20% above market price, ex. 200 dollars, he's taking that price. You rejecting a 6.5K offer, nearly double that of the estimated market price? That's stupid. That is extremely stupid. Do you think the Wander seller would have rejected a 350 dollar offer on that card?

Of course, OP might not want to sell it below 10K and keep the card in the PC at that price. That's perfectly fine. It's his card, he can keep it or decide to not sell it unless it reaches a certain price. He doesn't have to accept offers below 10K, but he knows that the card isn't a 10K card and that he'll almost 100% never get an offer for 10K. Which means the card stays in his PC indefinitely, which I think the OP is fine with.

At this point, I think you're trolling, and please don't PM me again with your inane, asinine accusations.

Let’s compare the two scenarios and test out the math you suggested the OP to use. (Don’t try to confuse people with your paragraphs of nonsense)

1) A $6k offer on a card with your “market value, based on your comps” of $3,500.

2) A $3k offer on a card with a $1,700 market value.

Which one are you taking?

[1deh1]

Originally Posted by Zauron

What the...how did you get to this point?


We basically told OP to go ahead, put it up for $10k, field offers, but you aren't getting close to that. The better version of the card he has, the T, didn't even break $2k.

I would argue I don't even think your card breaks $2k. You were so set on your card bringing you over $10k it is laughable.

For OP card though, as mentioned, the market has been set. He isn't getting close to $10k for it. He might get $2k-$3k, but probably not.

This is how I know you’re a hater... It’s been broken $2k without an auction. But you’re still saying it won’t break $2k?? What???