Is there a D-I NCAA Football Program that has fallen farther than Miami?

[craney]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

I’ll take solace in the fact we’ve beaten y’all in basketball like what 6 years in a row and the moron known as Willie Taggart is gone. And I wouldn’t quite say we’re scrambling anymore now that we got Norvell.

Now FSU is a basketball school? Hilarious. Let’s see who advances in the tourney...again. Norvell was the 3rd or 4th choice, so congrats.

Let’s agree to disagree...and be sworn enemies.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by LoveRookies

"Mind bottling."

I think that’s when you drink so much your brain is swimming in alcohol. Like your cranium is a “mind bottle”.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by craney

Now FSU is a basketball school? Hilarious. Let’s see who advances in the tourney...again. Norvell was the 3rd or 4th choice, so congrats.

Let’s agree to disagree...and be sworn enemies.

We’ve advanced further than y’all the past two years what exactly are you talking about?

[hairysasquatch]

What is truly "mind bottling" is the sense of ownership among the tOSU fan base while they are riding high, and the convenient forgetting of Coach Cooper's ineptitude, tattoogate, Maurice Clarett in a prison jumpsuit, Herbie never beating Michigan, etc.

As if the fan base had anything to do with "accepting" any of that. It all happened outside the power of any fan to control it.

Reality. Try living in it.

[lambeauleap87]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

What is truly "mind bottling" is the sense of ownership among the tOSU fan base while they are riding high, and the convenient forgetting of Coach Cooper's ineptitude, tattoogate, Maurice Clarett in a prison jumpsuit, Herbie never beating Michigan, etc.

As if the fan base had anything to do with "accepting" any of that. It all happened outside the power of any fan to control it.

Reality. Try living in it.

To be fair, Ohio State has been riding high since the Tressel Era - I was six years old when the Vest took over. The farthest down Ohio State has been in my cognizant life was Tattoo-Gate, which was a sham on all sides (and likely cost Ohio State another national championship).

It's almost easier to look at the top programs that haven't fallen off over time - Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, and Oklahoma come to mine that haven't seen a significant dip in the 2010s at the very least.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

To be fair, Ohio State has been riding high since the Tressel Era - I was six years old when the Vest took over. The farthest down Ohio State has been in my cognizant life was Tattoo-Gate, which was a sham on all sides (and likely cost Ohio State another national championship).

It's almost easier to look at the top programs that haven't fallen off over time - Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, and Oklahoma come to mine that haven't seen a significant dip in the 2010s at the very least.

LSU went 8-5 somewhere in the past decade, I think most would consider that a “a dip at the very least”. Also I think your recency bias is showing as LSU has only won 10 or more games in 6 seasons this decade with no national titles.

[lambeauleap87]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

LSU went 8-5 somewhere in the past decade, I think most would consider that a “a dip at the very least”.

I was thinking a dip where the program noticeably falls off. Ohio State went 6-7 under Fickell but didn't miss a beat. Stability and sustained success were top of mind, everyone (except Saban) has a bad year.

[bradical]

Nebraska for sure.

Each year their fans believe they are going to win a National Championship.

They left the Big 12 because they couldn’t compete against OU and Texas. Moved to the Big 10 and can’t even beat teams like Indiana and Illinois.

[ryan311]

Originally Posted by bradical

Nebraska for sure.

Each year their fans believe they are going to win a National Championship.

They left the Big 12 because they couldn’t compete against OU and Texas. Moved to the Big 10 and can’t even beat teams like Indiana and Illinois.

You sound like an Iowa fan.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by craney

40-17 beat down this year. One program on the rise. The other scrambling. And the 20+ rated recruiting class so far isn’t helping. Go Gators!

The Gators have hit their ceiling under Mullen, especially with Alabama, LSU, and Georgia not getting any weaker. The Gators will continue to feast on the horrid SEC East while annually losing two games to eliminate them from contending for anything.

[hairysasquatch]

Getting back to the subject at hand, those sure weren't the "Convicts" of the late 80s and early 90s tonight. Shut out by Louisiana Tech! Woof!

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by LoveRookies

"Mind bottling."

If you don’t get this that’s your own fault

[bradical]

Originally Posted by ryan311

You sound like an Iowa fan.

Never.

Iowa State fan here.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

What is truly "mind bottling" is the sense of ownership among the tOSU fan base while they are riding high, and the convenient forgetting of Coach Cooper's ineptitude, tattoogate, Maurice Clarett in a prison jumpsuit, Herbie never beating Michigan, etc.

As if the fan base had anything to do with "accepting" any of that. It all happened outside the power of any fan to control it.

Reality. Try living in it.

Herbie is in his 50’s

That’s where we are currently at with Ohio State hatred?

Impressive

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by bradical

Nebraska for sure.

Each year their fans believe they are going to win a National Championship.

They left the Big 12 because they couldn’t compete against OU and Texas. Moved to the Big 10 and can’t even beat teams like Indiana and Illinois.

Should’ve never fired Pelini after a 9-3 season and winning 9 or 10 games literally every season.

[bradical]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

Should’ve never fired Pelini after a 9-3 season and winning 9 or 10 games literally every season.

Same could have been said about Solich.

[Fenway55]

No team fell as far or as fast as.... Southern Methodist University.

[LC2nine10]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Good point, although I think Texaa *might* be turning the corner? Maybe?

It feels like texas has been almosy tueninng the corner forever. Always over ranked, and then gone.
Im a big USC fan and they have fallen hard, which i dont get. Its a great school in a great location with plenty of history, and yet cant get anything going. Its mind boggling, especially with how bad the pac12 has been. Isc should be crushing it.

[Rareairx23]

this hurts my heart

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Herbie is in his 50’s

That’s where we are currently at with Ohio State hatred?

Impressive

Just one of several examples cited.

[cookingwine]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Move to Columbus

It’s always rated a great, affordable, place to live for people

And we don’t accept 9-3

I visited Columbus back in 2015 for a concert on the OSU campus. Took a cab back to some bars with my friends after the show and less than two miles from the campus he told me we were in the heroin district of Columbus. I think I will pass on moving there, though it sounds lovely.

[sethc1020]

I just want to know why is a 6-7 team in a bowl game? Do Bowl games even mean anything anymore, other than the money?

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by cookingwine

I visited Columbus back in 2015 for a concert on the OSU campus. Took a cab back to some bars with my friends after the show and less than two miles from the campus he told me we were in the heroin district of Columbus. I think I will pass on moving there, though it sounds lovely.

Unfortunately “affordable” + “Midwest” almost always means heroin ridden today.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by asujbl

That’s really your horrible comeback?

Gross

I expect more from you

I’m an old man and couldn’t drive when Cooper coached

We all remember the national embarrassments too
Florida 41 tOSU 14
LSU 38 tOSU 24
Clemson 31 tOSU 0

USC, FSU and Texas all have the same number (or more in USC's case) National Championships as tOSU since 2002. So if they are all mediocre, what does that say about tOSU?

To be able to stay on top takes a good coach. When one leaves, it is difficult to replace them. USC struggled after McKay and Robinson until they found Pete Carroll and since he left they haven't been at the same level. After Bear Bryant retired, Alabama struggled until Nick Saban. Clemson was in FSU's little brother until they hired Dabo. It is ridiculous to call any of those programs a dumpster fire. They are all one good hire from being right back on top.

[Cactuspies]

Originally Posted by hostilecarrot

Appalachian State. Three national titles in a row then nothing.

Umass and Uconn fall in here too, should have stayed out of main D1 and kept to subdivision

Since I'm here, Pac12 since they can keep pumping out players and decent teams but suck for bowls

BC is a tease too. Should never have changed conferences