WOW!!! A new LOW for pack searchers 2019-20 Prizm horror!!! - Page 3

n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gretzky17

I have been victimized by this multiple times, almost always at Walmart but not exclusively. What's amazing to me is how you would have no idea that the packs have been tampered with until you open them. Opened cleanly, then stuff the shitty cards in there and glue them shut? Gotta be time consuming but I guess they figure the reward is worth it

It sucks man, the outer pack was sealed well, one was suspect with odd crinkles though. I hope they implement something soon so these guys dont get away with this anymore. Theyve had a long free ride.

n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BC81

WOW, I mean in my own backyard. Not surprised, but it really does suck to hear it happen at our Walmarts. That's a shame

Yea Ive met a few slithery dealers but wasnt expecting this at all. Wonder if its just Toronto or surrounding cities too.....

cardlover29 · 12-17-2019, 03:28 PM

where in toronto was this?

KevJo · 12-17-2019, 03:37 PM

Was in a local Target last week and someone had opened an entire $49.99 box of Prizm football and opened all the packs, right there on the racks. Pathetic!

Kevin

n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cardlover29

where in toronto was this?

Runnymede and St Clair, not too far from high park.

n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KevJo

Was in a local Target last week and someone had opened an entire $49.99 box of Prizm football and opened all the packs, right there on the racks. Pathetic!

Kevin

Ive seen this before too especially with Pokemon cards. Not sure how they get away with it.

KevJo · 12-17-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by n1nesports

Ive seen this before too especially with Pokemon cards. Not sure how they get away with it.

Its so unreal, I could not see myself open a sealed box and stand there and break the packs and keeping anything good. Its scumbaggery to an entire new level, its just not giving a #@#@#@#@ on top of that.

Kevin

alias21 · 12-17-2019, 05:17 PM

Wal Mart ultimately won't care about this as the cards are brought in and stocked by a 3rd party vendor. Meaning by the time the cards are brought into the store Wal Mart gets all the money they will get for them. Any returns go against the vendor not Wal Mart. So if they are bought and returned 100 times it's not costing Wal Mart a dime it's going against the vendor. I'd imagine that's who you should be contacting with any actual concerns. I believe Wal Marts card vendor is MJ Holding.

mrdallas · 12-17-2019, 05:23 PM

I will say I was talking to an excel rep in the Sacramento area and supposedly that sign someone posted about target putting up in their card aisles about people loitering is legit and should be making its way around soon. Not sure how much it will deter people or if it will be enforced but one can hope. For many of us retail is the best option from an affordability stand point so scumbags like this really sucks

mwheeler27 · 12-17-2019, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KevJo

Was in a local Target last week and someone had opened an entire $49.99 box of Prizm football and opened all the packs, right there on the racks. Pathetic!

Kevin

I can’t tell you how much I would enjoy seeing someone doing this in person. I can guarantee you they wouldn’t be as brave doing it again.

ninjacookies · 12-17-2019, 06:26 PM

These guys are treading very precarious waters.

It's only a matter of time before Exel issues a memo to all the stores to lookout for these sort of antics...and they find themselves in the backseat of a cruiser.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alias21

Wal Mart ultimately won't care about this as the cards are brought in and stocked by a 3rd party vendor. Meaning by the time the cards are brought into the store Wal Mart gets all the money they will get for them. Any returns go against the vendor not Wal Mart. So if they are bought and returned 100 times it's not costing Wal Mart a dime it's going against the vendor. I'd imagine that's who you should be contacting with any actual concerns. I believe Wal Marts card vendor is MJ Holding.

Hmm that's unfortunate, I'll see if I can somehow contact MJ holding, not sure what they would do though.

Justin7 · 12-17-2019, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nickha2

I will chime in and play devils advocate here. I purchased 4 hangers last week via credit card and had to return 2 of them that were resealed. I am the guilty one in this logic because I purchased them resealed. Unless the have a tamper proof seal on them and accept no returns theres no way to say I wasn't the one who opened and returned them.

I am in the same situation. I didn't know what to look for as far as resealing until the post here recently and looks like I was the victim of this from Target. Be careful at va beach targets, folks.

Dsimpson · 12-17-2019, 07:24 PM

I know I just got 3 full gravities 20 megas and a case of cellos. This is the first time I haven’t busted them and have left them in the car. I’ve been through 6 gravity boxes and about 30 megas. Now I’m wondering if I won’t even be able to sell them later if this pack searching and repackaging is getting so bad no one will trust anyone enough to buy product

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n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KevJo

Its so unreal, I could not see myself open a sealed box and stand there and break the packs and keeping anything good. Its scumbaggery to an entire new level, its just not giving a #@#@#@#@ on top of that.
Kevin

It's pretty cruddy man, I've never seen it being done, just the remnants of it like loose cards and empty boxes. I'd like to catch someone doing it!

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Originally Posted by mrdallas

For many of us retail is the best option from an affordability stand point so scumbags like this really sucks

Exactly why it pisses me off, they really screw things up for us, especially over here where they don't even sell basketball packs at many places, it's desolate.

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I can’t tell you how much I would enjoy seeing someone doing this in person. I can guarantee you they wouldn’t be as brave doing it again.

I'd record them doing it!

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Hopefully something is done by those who are in a position to make those changes to get these fools caught.

n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin7

I am in the same situation. I didn't know what to look for as far as resealing until the post here recently and looks like I was the victim of this from Target. Be careful at va beach targets, folks.

How many did you buy?

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Originally Posted by Dsimpson

I know I just got 3 full gravities 20 megas and a case of cellos. This is the first time I haven’t busted them and have left them in the car. I’ve been through 6 gravity boxes and about 30 megas. Now I’m wondering if I won’t even be able to sell them later if this pack searching and repackaging is getting so bad no one will trust anyone enough to buy product
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That got me to thinking, people have been bulk buying products like CRAZY lately, what if some of those have been tampered with?

ninjacookies · 12-17-2019, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by n1nesports

Hopefully something is done by those who are in a position to make those changes to get these fools caught.

It'll happen. Just a matter of time before a big bust. Just like these ACEO Ebay Rated Rookie guys who think they're invincible.

tommyboiazn23 · 12-17-2019, 08:22 PM

Every time I run into the excel/MJholding person, I tell them to to tell their boss to tell the respective store to not take returns at all due to resellers and crap like in the original post

JoeAdam · 12-17-2019, 09:16 PM

So did they really just buy one pack and return it? Although it does seem impossible to stop this kind of behavior, I would imagine that they can't do this scam on a large scale.

n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

It'll happen. Just a matter of time before a big bust. Just like these ACEO Ebay Rated Rookie guys who think they're invincible.

I sure hope so, stuff like this seems minor to outsiders but there's lots of money in this industry, serious stuff.

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Originally Posted by tommyboiazn23

Every time I run into the excel/MJholding person, I tell them to to tell their boss to tell the respective store to not take returns at all due to resellers and crap like in the original post

I think I'll have to forward them to this thread and figure this out.

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

So did they really just buy one pack and return it? Although it does seem impossible to stop this kind of behavior, I would imagine that they can't do this scam on a large scale.

It was 2 packs and the bonus pack, I only opened 1 pack. Unfortunately they already are doing it on a bigger scale, another member got hit by the same scammer in the same city:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1338871
His haul was much bigger than mine too, same dude putting baseball cards in the packs.

ninjacookies · 12-17-2019, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by n1nesports

I sure hope so, stuff like this seems minor to outsiders but there's lots of money in this industry, serious stuff.

In my mind it's a worse offense than simple shoplifting. They're double dipping by getting full refunds while also retaining the best aspects of the product and defrauding with decoys. I'd guess these are multiple legal offenses.

Put it this way...whomever is the first to get caught for this probably needs to schedule a nice TBD leave of absence from their place of employment.

n1nesports · 12-17-2019, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

In my mind it's a worse offense than simple shoplifting. They're double dipping by getting full refunds while also retaining the best aspects of the product and defrauding with decoys. I'd guess these are multiple legal offenses.

Put it this way...whomever is the first to get caught for this probably needs to schedule a nice TBD leave of absence from their place of employment.

This is true. Like buying a watch, taking the diamonds out of it and returning it to the store.

Justin7 · 12-17-2019, 09:52 PM

Wait until you realize that some of the distributors themselves are involved in this.

I know I know conspiracy theory but I am fairly certain of this.

jjrpilot · 12-17-2019, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin7

Wait until you realize that some of the distributors themselves are involved in this.

I know I know conspiracy theory but I am fairly certain of this.

Please no.........

mma138 · 12-17-2019, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vincecarder

I made a post about this earlier. Seems like a guy is doing this to all the walmarts in Toronto. Same junk baseball crap is his signature. I hope walmart catches him cause he will have a nice case against him.

how the heck are these being re sealed ? this is just plain scary . can these be taken back for a refund ?

12-17-2019, 03:37 PM	#54
KevJo Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 11,411	Was in a local Target last week and someone had opened an entire $49.99 box of Prizm football and opened all the packs, right there on the racks. Pathetic! Kevin __________________ "By any means"- Khalil Mack

12-17-2019, 09:16 PM	#69
JoeAdam Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,994 sjoteo joeadam	So did they really just buy one pack and return it? Although it does seem impossible to stop this kind of behavior, I would imagine that they can't do this scam on a large scale. __________________ @the_ace_of_cards on IG “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott

12-17-2019, 03:28 PM	#53
cardlover29 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,189	where in toronto was this?

12-17-2019, 05:17 PM	#58
alias21 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,046	Wal Mart ultimately won't care about this as the cards are brought in and stocked by a 3rd party vendor. Meaning by the time the cards are brought into the store Wal Mart gets all the money they will get for them. Any returns go against the vendor not Wal Mart. So if they are bought and returned 100 times it's not costing Wal Mart a dime it's going against the vendor. I'd imagine that's who you should be contacting with any actual concerns. I believe Wal Marts card vendor is MJ Holding.

12-17-2019, 05:23 PM	#59
mrdallas Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,826 robbyg8	I will say I was talking to an excel rep in the Sacramento area and supposedly that sign someone posted about target putting up in their card aisles about people loitering is legit and should be making its way around soon. Not sure how much it will deter people or if it will be enforced but one can hope. For many of us retail is the best option from an affordability stand point so scumbags like this really sucks

12-17-2019, 06:26 PM	#61
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,551	These guys are treading very precarious waters. It's only a matter of time before Exel issues a memo to all the stores to lookout for these sort of antics...and they find themselves in the backseat of a cruiser. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

12-17-2019, 07:24 PM	#64
Dsimpson Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 393	I know I just got 3 full gravities 20 megas and a case of cellos. This is the first time I haven’t busted them and have left them in the car. I’ve been through 6 gravity boxes and about 30 megas. Now I’m wondering if I won’t even be able to sell them later if this pack searching and repackaging is getting so bad no one will trust anyone enough to buy product Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-17-2019, 08:22 PM	#68
tommyboiazn23 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 1,752	Every time I run into the excel/MJholding person, I tell them to to tell their boss to tell the respective store to not take returns at all due to resellers and crap like in the original post

12-17-2019, 09:52 PM	#73
Justin7 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: OG Philly Posts: 2,788	Wait until you realize that some of the distributors themselves are involved in this. I know I know conspiracy theory but I am fairly certain of this.