✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 296

Giroux · 02-22-2022, 10:55 PM

Thought this card was a great deal

NYRE2PECT · 02-22-2022, 11:05 PM

Nice pickups Sho crew!

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Mister2Bits · 02-23-2022, 11:10 AM

I was the 2nd highest bidder last night on the 2021 Stadium Club Wave Refractor.

Cant believe it went >$250! I couldnt be live for the auction, so I just threw some money at the wall and crossed my fingers.

Which one of you degenerates outbid me? Haha

seanrs1 · 02-23-2022, 03:10 PM

Anyone else notice that sellers are raising their asking prices lately? Seems like the off season pricing is going away making it tougher to find deals.

hammertime · 02-23-2022, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Giroux

Thought this card was a great deal

Love that one... I've got a couple myself.

whalechaser · 02-23-2022, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

I was the 2nd highest bidder last night on the 2021 Stadium Club Wave Refractor.

Cant believe it went >$250! I couldnt be live for the auction, so I just threw some money at the wall and crossed my fingers.

Which one of you degenerates outbid me? Haha

I couldn't believe that went that high either. . . is that one much more rare than the 1991 variation?

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

Anyone else notice that sellers are raising their asking prices lately? Seems like the off season pricing is going away making it tougher to find deals.

I definitely noticed an uptick in Ohtani prices lately.

seanrs1 · 02-23-2022, 07:45 PM

Had my eye on this card for awhile...finally picked one up. 2018 Topps fire relic /75 (I believe these are case hits).

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Rage · 02-23-2022, 11:18 PM

Nice one again! Fire is always underrated.

The first to arrive for me was this guy.
Finally added one to the pc

NYRE2PECT · 02-23-2022, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Nice one again! Fire is always underrated.

The first to arrive for me was this guy.
Finally added one to the pc

Love it!

Trueblue · 02-23-2022, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Nice one again! Fire is always underrated.

The first to arrive for me was this guy.

Finally added one to the pc

Nice card but that centering sub..

seanrs1 · 02-24-2022, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Nice one again! Fire is always underrated.

The first to arrive for me was this guy.
Finally added one to the pc

Awesome pick up...very jealous! I love the card, but can't quite convince myself to pay SSP money for a card that is a SP.

Mister2Bits · 02-24-2022, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by whalechaser

I couldn't believe that went that high either. . . is that one much more rare than the 1991 variation?

Yes - the base wave refractors are much rarer but the pack odds are confusing. Maybe someone with greater knowledge can chime in.

The base design Wave Refractors are 1:112, the base Red Refractors are 1:284. The red refractors are /5 so I'm assuming the base wave refractors have a print run somewhere between 10 and 15.

The 91 Var wav refractors are listed at 1:112, but the 91 Variation Red Refractors are 1:4,484.

If you hop on eBay there are about 40 '91 Variation Wave Refractors of Ohtani for sale ranging from $50-$200 and prob close to 50 have sold since release. There are quite a few to go around.

I have seen 4 base wave refractors since release and all have sold for +$200.

hammertime · 02-24-2022, 01:18 PM

Pretty pleased with this sub I got back from SGC today.

Giroux · 02-24-2022, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Pretty pleased with this sub I got back from SGC today.

Sick sub!!

HunterConnorMom · 02-24-2022, 06:13 PM

Awesome pickups all!

Trying to find some Ohtani articles to read before the season. Found this article and gives a good perspective of how he was using his fastball last year. Hope you find it interesting.

Link: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/another-...shohei-ohtani/

CP10 · 02-24-2022, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

Awesome pick up...very jealous! I love the card, but can't quite convince myself to pay SSP money for a card that is a SP.

There’s about 450 of these Ohtani Bowman Chrome variations. Pretty close to the rumored 300 print runs of topps SSP. I think the price is very warranted. Just my opinion.

I love this Ohtani. One of my favorites of his rookies.

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seanrs1 · 02-24-2022, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CP10

There’s about 450 of these Ohtani Bowman Chrome variations. Pretty close to the rumored 300 print runs of topps SSP. I think the price is very warranted. Just my opinion.

I love this Ohtani. One of my favorites of his rookies.

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I could be totally off base, but from prior discussions on this board I was under the impression that the print run was ~2000.

ClevelandIC · 02-24-2022, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

Yes - the base wave refractors are much rarer but the pack odds are confusing. Maybe someone with greater knowledge can chime in.

The base design Wave Refractors are 1:112, the base Red Refractors are 1:284. The red refractors are /5 so I'm assuming the base wave refractors have a print run somewhere between 10 and 15.

The 91 Var wav refractors are listed at 1:112, but the 91 Variation Red Refractors are 1:4,484.

If you hop on eBay there are about 40 '91 Variation Wave Refractors of Ohtani for sale ranging from $50-$200 and prob close to 50 have sold since release. There are quite a few to go around.

I have seen 4 base wave refractors since release and all have sold for +$200.

The pack odds are the same for each wave version 1:112 = two per case. The major difference is a 400-card base checklist which leaves about 12 Wave Refractors for the bast set. The inserts have a print run over just over 200 per wave refractor.

The wave scarcity is still relatively unknown and there are deals to be had on lower level names but the stars go for a ton. I’ve bid and lost on a majority - including this Shohei

Rage · 02-24-2022, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CP10

There’s about 450 of these Ohtani Bowman Chrome variations. Pretty close to the rumored 300 print runs of topps SSP. I think the price is very warranted. Just my opinion.

I love this Ohtani. One of my favorites of his rookies.

Thanks for the PR info. Wasn't sure on it but there's never that many available and I love the image.

Happy to finally own one

Mister2Bits · 02-24-2022, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

The pack odds are the same for each wave version 1:112 = two per case. The major difference is a 400-card base checklist which leaves about 12 Wave Refractors for the bast set. The inserts have a print run over just over 200 per wave refractor.

The wave scarcity is still relatively unknown and there are deals to be had on lower level names but the stars go for a ton. I’ve bid and lost on a majority - including this Shohei

I should have had an extra cup of coffee to get my brain jump started this morning haha. That makes more sense.

Rage · 02-24-2022, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

I could be totally off base, but from prior discussions on this board I was under the impression that the print run was ~2000.

You got me curious so I found this info from Beckett:

"These aren’t the toughest short prints of the year, but they’re not going to pop up in large numbers, either. 2018 Bowman Chrome Rookie Image Variations land 1:133 hobby packs. That’s about every eleventh box. That means most every hobby case will have one but there will be the occasional one that has two. Because HTA boxes only come with autographs, 2018 Bowman Chrome SSP cards are hobby-only

Thirteen of the 15 variations also have autograph versions. Nick Williams and Alex Verdugo are the only ones without. Rookie Image Variation Autographs are 1:2,766 hobby packs. One-of-one Superfractor Autographs are 1:67,785 packs."

Not sure if that's enough info to calculate but I got a ~441 PR for the RC Image Variation using these numbers. I could be way off but it's in line with what CP10 was saying around 450

seanrs1 · 02-24-2022, 07:16 PM

I stand corrected! Someone in the past on this thread said roughly 2000. I am not very good at math and calculating print runs. Now I am kicking myself for not picking one up this off season when I had the chance.

But I do have this one which I also think is a SSP. Anyone know the print run on this Bowman platinum image variation with Ohtani holding his bag?

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hammertime · 02-24-2022, 07:35 PM

I just made my biggest Ohtani purchase to date...

Rage · 02-24-2022, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

I stand corrected! Someone in the past on this thread said roughly 2000. I am not very good at math and calculating print runs. Now I am kicking myself for not picking one up this off season when I had the chance.

But I do have this one which I also think is a SSP. Anyone know the print run on this Bowman platinum image variation with Ohtani holding his bag?

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I like that card as well

My math got ~598 for the PR for 2018 BP Variations, Beckett called them SSPs

NYRE2PECT · 02-24-2022, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

I just made my biggest Ohtani purchase to date...

When’s mail day!? Let’s go!

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02-22-2022, 11:05 PM	#7377
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02-23-2022, 11:10 AM	#7378
Mister2Bits Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Florida Man Posts: 5,327 mistertwobits mistertwobits	I was the 2nd highest bidder last night on the 2021 Stadium Club Wave Refractor. Cant believe it went >$250! I couldnt be live for the auction, so I just threw some money at the wall and crossed my fingers. Which one of you degenerates outbid me? Haha __________________ Collecting: Ohtani, Judge \| Skateboarding Cards, Autographs & Decks

02-23-2022, 07:45 PM	#7382
seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,938	Had my eye on this card for awhile...finally picked one up. 2018 Topps fire relic /75 (I believe these are case hits). Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ PC-#1 Ohtani PC-Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., JRod, Vladdy Jr. Starting to collect-Judge, Betts, Trout Bag holder-#1 Wander Franco, #2 Tatis Jr.

02-23-2022, 11:18 PM	#7383
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02-24-2022, 07:16 PM	#7397
seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,938	I stand corrected! Someone in the past on this thread said roughly 2000. I am not very good at math and calculating print runs. Now I am kicking myself for not picking one up this off season when I had the chance. But I do have this one which I also think is a SSP. Anyone know the print run on this Bowman platinum image variation with Ohtani holding his bag? Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ PC-#1 Ohtani PC-Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., JRod, Vladdy Jr. Starting to collect-Judge, Betts, Trout Bag holder-#1 Wander Franco, #2 Tatis Jr.

02-22-2022, 10:55 PM	#7376
Giroux Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: USA Posts: 4,891 cardsgoingup	Thought this card was a great deal

02-23-2022, 03:10 PM	#7379
seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,938	Anyone else notice that sellers are raising their asking prices lately? Seems like the off season pricing is going away making it tougher to find deals.

02-24-2022, 01:18 PM	#7388
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,914	Pretty pleased with this sub I got back from SGC today.

02-24-2022, 06:13 PM	#7390
HunterConnorMom Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 501	Awesome pickups all! Trying to find some Ohtani articles to read before the season. Found this article and gives a good perspective of how he was using his fastball last year. Hope you find it interesting. Link: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/another-...shohei-ohtani/

02-24-2022, 07:35 PM	#7398
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,914	I just made my biggest Ohtani purchase to date...