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Old 01-02-2021, 02:05 PM   #7276
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Another factor: US175 was produced (and preserved) in much lower quantities, as compared to HMT55 + US300. Also, US175 doesn't have a chrome counterpart to cannibalize its demand.

The numbers at PSA, as of today:

US175: 8849 graded; 5157 PSA 10s

US300: 21,361 graded; 14,846 PSA 10s
HMT55: 9,042 graded; 8,308 PSA 10s

US300 + HMT55: 30,403 graded; 23,154 PSA 10s

I think Soto has a very good chance to be an iconic player in the coming years, and I think the demand will be there for his cards, like the demand for Trout.

But I don't think a direct price comparison between US175 and US300/HMT55 will ever be exactly fair, given the huge difference in supply.
Adding on to the nice write up above.

Trout has been the best player in MLB for a decade and has 3 MVPs through his age 28 season. Soto, while having the potential to overtake Trout as the best player in baseball, has no MVPs to date, and is only 2.5 years into his career. Soto will also have to compete with Acuna, Betts, and Tatis for MVP whereas Trout is still front runner for MVP in AL.

It's not an apples to apples comparison at all.

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Old 01-02-2021, 02:46 PM   #7277
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Old 01-02-2021, 04:26 PM   #7278
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Only Soto related card just in from PSA:
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Old 01-02-2021, 04:28 PM   #7279
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Did someone buy the 2018 TC Gold Ref PSA 10?


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Old 01-02-2021, 04:40 PM   #7280
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Check out these sales on the Topps Bunt App. Digital Cards folks.

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Old 01-02-2021, 04:44 PM   #7281
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Old 01-02-2021, 05:18 PM   #7282
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Pack fresh psa 10?? blockchain redemption card?? Lets make it a thing in 2021!!!


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Old 01-02-2021, 05:28 PM   #7283
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Im getting mine all my blockchain cards graded by SGC.


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Old 01-02-2021, 05:28 PM   #7284
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Thanks for the research(GEM Rate) for the US175(58.3%), US300(69.5%), HMT55(91.8%). How many new collectors have entered the card market over the last couple of years? Between Covid lockdowns and Gary V. etc to offset the Soto card production levels? The TPG's Have been swamped for over a year now with no end in sight. Now there are many TV and Print stories about how hot All Card collecting has become, and some investing companies are incorporating up to 10% of their portfolio is graded cards. I Would be interested to hear from Card Shop owners and any others connected in the Industry for their opinions regarding the continued interest and demand going forward.
To be clear, I think what matters is not the gem rate, but the total quantity of gem mint cards. It matters how many more are out there like the one you have.

In Trout's case, there are 5157 PSA 10s out there. In Soto's case, there are 23,154 PSA 10s out there, when you include both versions of the card.

My point is, there are way more US300 and HMT55 RCs to meet collector demand than there are US175s. Four to five times as many in PSA 10. So, if you're having a discussion about the difference in value between US300/HMT55 and US175, that massive difference in supply is relevant to the discussion.
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Old 01-02-2021, 06:59 PM   #7285
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Old 01-02-2021, 07:47 PM   #7286
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Did someone buy the 2018 TC Gold Ref PSA 10?


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Not sure if maybe it sold through the consignors website or returned to owner
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They had a TBT 2019 set (I have the full set of these as well as 2018 On Demand 78 Rookies), but did Topps do a 2020 set?
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Old 01-02-2021, 08:18 PM   #7288
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Used my eBay Bucks on another HMT55 PSA 10. Boring
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Old 01-02-2021, 08:42 PM   #7289
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Old 01-02-2021, 09:01 PM   #7290
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Used my eBay Bucks on another HMT55 PSA 10. Boring

Spent mine on a blockchain soto. No idea what to do next. Upload it to my brain or something? Supposedly an auto lol



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Old 01-02-2021, 09:04 PM   #7291
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Spent mine on a blockchain soto. No idea what to do next. Upload it to my brain or something? Supposedly an auto lol



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If they let you buy and sell with Bitcoin, they might be on to something. I have to confess I don't really understand what they're doing. It's like eTopps, but I can't have the card shipped. But they say it really exists in a vault. Uh...okay.
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Old 01-02-2021, 09:09 PM   #7292
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Used my eBay Bucks on another HMT55 PSA 10. Boring

I’m watching what I’m going to grab with mine. Maybe the PSA 10 heritage mini closing in a few hours


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I feel like this is a good price, and also a neat piece. Good luck if someone grabs it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264976048627
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I feel like this is a good price, and also a neat piece. Good luck if someone grabs it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264976048627
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Old 01-02-2021, 09:46 PM   #7296
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I feel like this is a good price, and also a neat piece. Good luck if someone grabs it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264976048627

Amazing timing—I just bought it.

I was trying to figure out how I wanted to use my ebay bucks, debating between a card that could be completely covered by the bucks or just putting the bucks toward this Soto. Glad I didn’t debate any longer!


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Old 01-02-2021, 09:55 PM   #7297
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Egads! What that set you back? No matter what, it’s worth it.
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Old 01-02-2021, 10:04 PM   #7299
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Egads! What that set you back? No matter what, it’s worth it.
4k. With HMT55s going for $300+, this numbered to 250 seems a no brainer.

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Old 01-02-2021, 10:11 PM   #7300
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Amazing timing—I just bought it.

I was trying to figure out how I wanted to use my ebay bucks, debating between a card that could be completely covered by the bucks or just putting the bucks toward this Soto. Glad I didn’t debate any longer!


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So glad ya got it! It an awesome card for sure! If I had the money today I would have swept it up. Alas, someone here got it and that’s just as good!
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