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Old 01-14-2022, 10:14 PM   #701
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Old 01-16-2022, 02:57 PM   #702
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Old 01-16-2022, 04:32 PM   #703
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Old 01-16-2022, 08:20 PM   #704
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Old 01-22-2022, 02:31 PM   #705
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Looks like another injury, again muscular. Already 22 games missed through injury in his short Dortmund career, it's starting to become a little concerning.
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Old 01-22-2022, 02:48 PM   #706
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Dortmund in the race still and a game left vs Bayern...
Gets injured so easily...
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Old 01-22-2022, 04:50 PM   #707
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Looks like another injury, again muscular. Already 22 games missed through injury in his short Dortmund career, it's starting to become a little concerning.
I wouldn't say so, and using "matches missed" is a bit cheeky. One of his injuries he was only out 27 days (nothing really) yet missed seven games.

I don't see anything in his injury history that screams "problem" it's mostly just mild muscle injury, which isn't that surprising considering he is still filling his frame, and plays a high impact game.

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Old 01-24-2022, 01:24 AM   #708
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Just found out my Match Attax SAL 13 got a psa 9. Pretty excited for that. Only 6 psa 9s and 2 10s


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Old 01-24-2022, 01:26 AM   #709
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Nah, it's a bit different in this case. Haaland is a generational talent.

Now, watching people cry because they have blindly followed the idiots in buying up turd such as Xavi Simons cards... that is hilarious. No injuries involved. Konrad De la Fuente is another one too...

De La Fuente gets called into the national team again and his stuff goes up a lot. Not everyone is trying to buy or even invest in only BDO winners.


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Old 01-24-2022, 04:44 AM   #710
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De La Fuente gets called into the national team again and his stuff goes up a lot. Not everyone is trying to buy or even invest in only BDO winners.


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Old 01-24-2022, 05:25 AM   #711
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Cheers Konrad.
First Jabs over in the baseball forum, now Konrad de la Fuente in the soccer forum. I am going to head over to the basketball forum and wait for LeBron to post! What a day on Blowout!
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Old 01-24-2022, 08:14 AM   #712
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First Jabs over in the baseball forum, now Konrad de la Fuente in the soccer forum. I am going to head over to the basketball forum and wait for LeBron to post! What a day on Blowout!


That Jabs saga is something else haha
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Old 01-24-2022, 11:19 AM   #713
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Just got this back from PSA a few days ago as a re-grade. Pop 20 much harder to grade and sells for less than the Bundesliga Refractor that is a pop 127.




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Old 01-24-2022, 11:48 AM   #714
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It’s a negligible volume, but there are also fewer of the Finest refractor in the theoretical print run (~450 to ~480 for the Bunde refractor).

Both are TINY volumes relatively speaking even to 2021 refractor print runs.

I think it comes down a bit to preference… some people like the Salzburg aspect of finest and that it was our first. Others the staple of chrome.

It does show how much more condition sensitive that finest was… only 11% PSA10 rate against almost a 60% rate for Bunde.
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Old 01-24-2022, 01:16 PM   #715
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It does show how much more condition sensitive that finest was… only 11% PSA10 rate against almost a 60% rate for Bunde.
You also have to factor in that by Bunde he was the hottest player on the planet and his cards were handled with gloves and put in your safe
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Old 01-24-2022, 03:36 PM   #716
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Yeah- it’s impossible to know for sure. Finest did lead Bunde by a bit on the timeline but Haaland was still big… but the whole market was just starting the nuclear trajectory.

Numbers point to the refractors from finest being generally tough…

Base Finest - 57%
Refractor Finest - 11%

Base Bunde - 64%
Refractor Bunde - 58%

The other fascinating thing to me is the OVERALL pop count for Bundesliga. Mostly low because there’s just not that much of value in it beyond a few guys… but less than 6000 cards total in the pop count for PSA.
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Old 01-24-2022, 05:15 PM   #717
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Just got this back from PSA a few days ago as a re-grade. Pop 20 much harder to grade and sells for less than the Bundesliga Refractor that is a pop 127.




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That's beautiful, was it a PSA 9 that you cracked?
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Old 01-24-2022, 08:05 PM   #718
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That's beautiful, was it a PSA 9 that you cracked?
Yes, it was among several Haaland I got back as 9s and cracked and resent and got 10s.
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Yeah- it’s impossible to know for sure. Finest did lead Bunde by a bit on the timeline but Haaland was still big… but the whole market was just starting the nuclear trajectory.

Numbers point to the refractors from finest being generally tough…

Base Finest - 57%
Refractor Finest - 11%

Base Bunde - 64%
Refractor Bunde - 58%

The other fascinating thing to me is the OVERALL pop count for Bundesliga. Mostly low because there’s just not that much of value in it beyond a few guys… but less than 6000 cards total in the pop count for PSA.
2016 euro prizm only has 5300 graded total and that set is 10x better than Bundesliga.

Grading is too expansive and soccer has less tradition in grading everything plus people around the world don't have the accessibility to grade.
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Old 01-24-2022, 09:32 PM   #720
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To give you and idea where grading is going...

Basketball

1,805,293
78,448

Baseball

675,232
12,100

Football

433,890
9,453


Slight drop in grading year over year....
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Old 01-25-2022, 06:26 AM   #721
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Yes, it was among several Haaland I got back as 9s and cracked and resent and got 10s.
Congrats on the regrades, but dang…this makes PSA look like a joke of a company.

I wonder how many PSA 10s, if cracked and resubmitted, would garner a 9, or even 8?

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Old 01-25-2022, 10:30 AM   #722
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Congrats on the regrades, but dang…this makes PSA look like a joke of a company.

I wonder how many PSA 10s, if cracked and resubmitted, would garner a 9, or even 8?

Thanks! It's all anecdotal but I had 7 Haaland Base Sapphire, a SP Finest, this Finest Refractor and a Chrome UEFA Auto all come back 9s in 2 orders except one of the Sapphire was a 10. IMO these were all very nice with 3 of the Base Sapphire having very feint small print lines.

All of them got 10s except one Base Sapphire on resubmissions except 3 of the Base Sapphire which I sent to BGS and they got a 9, 9.5 and a 10 (go figure).

I'm sure the reverse is also true as I had a PSA 9 come back as an 8 once. At the end of the day it is a subjective process and their opinion based on the grading standards set forth by PSA.
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Old 01-25-2022, 10:51 AM   #723
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PSA are giving 10's to cards with print lines?
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Old 01-25-2022, 12:28 PM   #724
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I never said I did in this case but yes, a card with small printing imperfections which would include print lines can get a Gem Mint grade. That's been their grading standard for some time.

https://www.psacard.com/resources/gradingstandards

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Old 02-10-2022, 05:02 PM   #725
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If Haaland goes to Barça —- good for his card values ( Us ), correct?
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