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[chezball]

Originally Posted by preakness

Megyn Kelly is hot

Trish Reagan blows her away.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

For the non-stop coverage of meaningless things, yes. I blame the media. When was the last time a panel was actually discussing an issue vs. something either candidate has done in the last 40 years? I truly can't remember.

It happens. Just not nearly to this extent. The media does seem intent/desparate to document every day of Trump's life from birth to present. We heard about Bill's "I didn't enhale" from his college days and W's National Guard Service.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Not always. I grew up leaning right but as time as gone on, and I've seen some of the hypocrisy on the right, I've begun to lean left. How to right clings to outlawing abortion, denying gay rights, keeping marijuana illegal, and weakening a society safety net, I've had enough.

Small story. I had to go to church the other week. Most would agree that religious people tend to lean right, hence some of the positions the GOP takes. Throughout the ceremony, they mentioned helping the less fortunate countless times. People say amen, and act like they are going to do it. Then some of them go and vote GOP which recently has worked against helping the less fortunate. Cutting social programs. Working against providing health care to the poor. Things like that. How can I rationalize those two things? How can I not see those people as being hypocrites?

The fact that the GOP has clung to denying gay rights is my biggest sticking point. They lost, They can't accept it though. They won't let it go.

Both sides are full of hypocrites no doubt. I don't like many people on either side. But I do find myself leaning left more and more. So the idea that today's generation will sooner or later become right leaning people I think is an outdated idea. I don't see it happening with this millennial generation.

I have the same beliefs as you.

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

so let's get some bipartisan hate going.

Congress Now Blaming Obama For Its Embarrassing Override Of His Veto | Huffington Post


2 things (1st one obvious coming from a liberal, 2nd one is a swerve):

1. How in the #@#@#@#@ can somebody conceivably blame Obama for the passage of this bill? Not only did he veto, the entire week it was being discussed he said he'd veto it and explained why he would veto it. So when they pass it and he vetoes it, they get the votes to override the veto to pass the bill. Then, they... blame Obama for what is in the bill that they didn't realize was there? And it's all disingenuous, because the entire time Obama was explaining why he'd veto this bill, they were complaining about Obama undercutting the progress of the bill...

2. #@#@#@#@ the Democrats too. There was only 1 nay vote on that veto override, and 2 didn't vote. As much as I hate Harry Reid, he was the Nay. Tim Kaine and Bernie Sanders didn't vote. the rest of the Dems in the house went along with it because of "optics" I assume.

We need to clean all these asshats out, both republican and democrat. I would like to propose 2 bills. 1- SET CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS. 2- If any congressman votes for a bill and didn't read it beforehand, they are immediately removed from office. Yes, I'm suggesting a quiz be given immediately after a vote takes place and a bill passes. Any person failing that quiz is gone. They get a great salary with a ridiculous amount of off-time. THey can take the time to read the bills they are voting on.

Congressional term limits would be a great thing. They are a bigger problem than the false figurehead of the position of president.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Harry Reid has made between 120,000-193,000 per year in office. His net worth is over $10 million.

Someone sure has done well for himself while in office.


Yes, term limits should be set. These people barely do any work. Their real income comes from crooked side deals.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

So the idea that today's generation will sooner or later become right leaning people I think is an outdated idea. I don't see it happening with this millennial generation.

Every generation thinks this. But it is all really natural. The older people get the more they get set in their ways. Younger generations, in an effort to establish their own identity, are inclined to rebel. Hippies became yuppies. It just happens.

We never see what's coming. Women's Sufferage, The Great Depression, Rock and Roll, Television, Viet Nam, Civil Rights Movement, Cold War Ending, The Internet, 9/11, etc. There is always something that alters the landscape charging younger generations that seemed impossible or unexpected to the previous generation. And the previous generation doesn't like it because "everything was ______ when I grew up and this is different." It's only natural.

A younger generation spends so much time trying to be different that once they affect and accomplish the change, they don't like the next generation messing with it.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Every generation thinks this. But it is all really natural. The older people get the more they get set in their ways. Younger generations, in an effort to establish their own identity, are inclined to rebel. Hippies became yuppies. It just happens.

We never see what's coming. Women's Sufferage, The Great Depression, Rock and Roll, Television, Viet Nam, Civil Rights Movement, Cold War Ending, The Internet, 9/11, etc. There is always something that alters the landscape charging younger generations that seemed impossible or unexpected to the previous generation. And the previous generation doesn't like it because "everything was ______ when I grew up and this is different." It's only natural.

A younger generation spends so much time trying to be different that once they affect and accomplish the change, they don't like the next generation messing with it.

The previous generations didn't have the internet and demographics are shifting. Access to information will change the landscape unlike decades before and we are starting to see it now.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by Addison

The previous generations didn't have the internet and demographics are shifting. Access to information will change the landscape unlike decades before and we are starting to see it now.

Sure, until something else comes around. Maybe the next generation after the Millineals will be anti-tech. Maybe having microchips inserted into a person's brain will become the norm. Maybe the next generation will decide walking around completely naked is perfectly acceptable. Maybe North Korea or Iran go nuclear.

My point is, every generation thinks their way is the best. The Younger generation is always trying to drive change. The older generation trying to protect the old ways they established. And then something happens that makes the older generation shake their heads and the younger generation shake their fists.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Sure, until something else comes around. Maybe the next generation after the Millineals will be anti-tech. Maybe having microchips inserted into a person's brain will become the norm. Maybe the next generation will decide walking around completely naked is perfectly acceptable. Maybe North Korea or Iran go nuclear.

My point is, every generation thinks their way is the best. The Younger generation is always trying to drive change. The older generation trying to protect the old ways they established. And then something happens that makes the older generation shake their heads and the younger generation shake their fists.

Perhaps. But as change becomes exponentially quicker, generations will have to change and adapt much faster to remain relevant. The "good old days" that people think about now 50s/60s/70s etc will soon be 10 years ago, 5 years, and so on. The desire to go back in my opinion is becoming less and and less of a desire.

[Panthersfans]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Small story. I had to go to church the other week. Most would agree that religious people tend to lean right, hence some of the positions the GOP takes. Throughout the ceremony, they mentioned helping the less fortunate countless times. People say amen, and act like they are going to do it. Then some of them go and vote GOP which recently has worked against helping the less fortunate. Cutting social programs. Working against providing health care to the poor. Things like that. How can I rationalize those two things? How can I not see those people as being hypocrites .

If they voted democrat you'd call them hypocrites for voting a party that believes in gay rights and abortions. You have to go with the party and/or candidate that most fits with what you believe, neither will line up perfectly . And just for the record I think most scripture encourages the church and its people to help with the poor not the gov't, so the point is kind of moot anyway.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by Panthersfans

If they voted democrat you'd call them hypocrites for voting a party that believes in gay rights and abortions. You have to go with the party and/or candidate that most fits with what you believe, neither will line up perfectly . And just for the record I think most scripture encourages the church and its people to help with the poor not the gov't, so the point is kind of moot anyway.

Well they'd be hypocrites either way because scripture is also anti-wealth, anti-violence and war, and pro-immigration.

[tke1600]

Well now we know what Clinton really thinks about Sanders and his supporters. Apparently anyone who doesn't back Clinton is now either irredeemable or lives in a basement. Crazy to hear someone who thinks they can represent all of America say that. She is just an awful human being just from the small percentage of stuff that gets leaked out. Can you imagine how much worse it is from what we don't know about her?

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Well now we know what Clinton really thinks about Sanders and his supporters. Apparently anyone who doesn't back Clinton is now either irredeemable or lives in a basement. Crazy to hear someone who thinks they can represent all of America say that. She is just an awful human being just from the small percentage of stuff that gets leaked out. Can you imagine how much worse it is from what we don't know about her?

Just listened to the audio. Sad thing is it won't make it past foxnews. Hopefully Trump uses it in the near future.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Just listened to the audio. Sad thing is it won't make it past foxnews. Hopefully Trump uses it in the near future.

To defend Hillary, look at the open Sanders supporters here. They do live with their parents. They may have a bedroom instead of basement.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

To defend Hillary, look at the open Sanders supporters here. They do live with their parents. They may have a bedroom instead of basement.

Who, Addison? Isn't he a teenager currently matriculated at an institution of higher learning? Pretty savvy financial foresight to accumulate savings at such a young age.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

Who, Addison? Isn't he a teenager currently matriculated at an institution of higher learning? Pretty savvy financial foresight to accumulate savings at such a young age.

My 401(k) is lit af right now.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by Addison

My 401(k) is lit af right now.

I incurred a gnarly penalty cashing out my first Hancock IRA to buy Oxycontin. Admittedly, it was quite a fun year on the links, but I would strongly advise against that strategy in the capacity of a financial advisor. Diversify your bonds.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

I incurred a gnarly penalty cashing out my first Hancock IRA to buy Oxycontin. Admittedly, it was quite a fun year on the links, but I would strongly advise against that strategy in the capacity of a financial advisor. Diversify your bonds.

Sage advice. You may have had a higher ROI buying Oxy in bulk and reselling it compared to a traditional IRA but you'll always have the memories.

[Panthersfans]

Originally Posted by Addison

Well they'd be hypocrites either way because scripture is also anti-wealth, anti-violence and war, and pro-immigration.

We get it, you don't like Christians.

[Brobocop]

Not to start anything but why is it that the Democrats feel it's okay to call out Johnson and Stein voters and treat them like children? Your candidate is disliked, she hasn't earned people's votes, they are allowed to vote however they want.

Shocking that I don't see this kind of stuff from the GOP too.

Maher, Silverman Scold Bernie Bros Voting for Gary Johnson - Rolling Stone

[jarrodsalas]

Absolutely nothing on CNN or MSNBC concerning the leaked Hillary millennial audio. Pathetic. Still talking about Trumps late night tweets though. I have never seen the media bias as bad as this.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Not to start anything but why is it that the Democrats feel it's okay to call out Johnson and Stein voters and treat them like children? Your candidate is disliked, she hasn't earned people's votes, they are allowed to vote however they want.

Shocking that I don't see this kind of stuff from the GOP too.

Maher, Silverman Scold Bernie Bros Voting for Gary Johnson - Rolling Stone

People that dwell in subjunctive history still view Nader as a villain.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by Panthersfans

We get it, you don't like hypocrites.

Made your post accurate.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by Addison

Well they'd be hypocrites either way because scripture is also anti-wealth, anti-violence and war, and pro-immigration.

You really should refrain from offering opinions about topics that you obviously know little to nothing about. It shows.

[Addison]

Originally Posted by corndog

You really should refrain from offering opinions about topics that you obviously know little to nothing about. It shows.

Camel and through the needle? Turn the other cheek? Love the sojourner as you love yourself?

Fascinating stuff.