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Old 08-02-2022, 09:26 AM   #676
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I'd be a buyer at $110 locally.
Wait 6-12 months and these will be collecting dust at $50/hobby box
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:42 AM   #677
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Wait 6-12 months and these will be collecting dust at $50/hobby box
I mean... they won't... but I get your point. Single prices just aren't commanding a lot (right now). This could be a scary product once things dry up...
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:51 AM   #678
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Wait 6-12 months and these will be collecting dust at $50/hobby box
A 700-card base set and a 164 AU subset w/ an array of parallels for ea. will produce a ton of product for sure but it'll have to end sometime.
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:56 AM   #679
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If only they could have snuck those 1952 redemptions from the National into this set as inserts or whatever. That 1952 JRod is pretty sweet and might have propped up prices a bit.
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:08 AM   #680
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Trying to update the current checklist as it appears more variations are appearing.
Pink Autos /15 aren't on any checklist yet but have been showing up.
Mega Box Prisms include Silver Prism, Blue Prism and Gold Prism.

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Refractors
Black and White Mini-Diamond Refractors
X-Fractors
Mega Box Silver Prism
Mega Box Blue Prism
Mega Box Gold Prism
Aqua Wave Refractors
Blue Mini Diamond Refractors – /199
Red Atomic Refractors – /100
Green/Yellow 70th Anniversary Refractors – /99
Rose Gold Mini Diamond Refractors – /75
Mini-Diamond Platinum 70th Anniversary Refractors – /70
Gold/Rose Gold 70th Anniversary Wave Refractors – /50
Orange/Yellow 70th Anniversary Refractors – /25
Black/Gold 70th Anniversary Refractors – /10
Red/Black 70th Anniversary Mini-Diamond Refractors – /5
Superfractors – 1/1

Auto Variations:
Refractors – /199
Aqua Refractors – /150
Blue Prism Refractors /99
70th Anniversary Platinum Wave Refractors – /70
Gold Refractors – /50
Orange Refractors – /25
Pink - /15
Black Refractors – /10
Red Refractors – /5
Superfractors – 1/1
Pink autos are a Hobby Lite exclusive and not guaranteed. Pulled Mark Loretta & Matt Olson in my first case, Justin Morneau in my second.
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:14 AM   #681
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Pink autos are a Hobby Lite exclusive and not guaranteed..
Meaning some players wont have Pink Autos available?
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:41 AM   #682
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Meaning some players wont have Pink Autos available?
TONS of players won't have pink autos (or any other autos) available. I think they just meant not guaranteed in the sense that you don't get one per box like you do (/are supposed to) with hobby.
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Old 08-02-2022, 11:13 AM   #683
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Anyone that has any Alex Kirilloff parallels that you are looking/wanting to move, please reach out and let's get a deal done!
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:34 PM   #684
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I ripped 3 boxes and got two Griffey Sr autos. Thanks Topps
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Old 08-02-2022, 04:00 PM   #685
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I mean... they won't... but I get your point. Single prices just aren't commanding a lot (right now). This could be a scary product once things dry up...
I've been trying to figure out what you mean here. Are you saying this product is going to be scary as in good? It's never drying up, there is sooooo much out there.
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Old 08-02-2022, 04:33 PM   #686
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I've been trying to figure out what you mean here. Are you saying this product is going to be scary as in good? It's never drying up, there is sooooo much out there.
2021 was truly junk wax 2.0. At the national every single dealer just had piles of this product and I didn't see a single soul buy one all weekend
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Old 08-02-2022, 06:42 PM   #687
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Found 4 blasters in the wild today and snagged them up.

Glad I did. Closer to finishing the base set and had some pretty amazing luck.




The Dante Gold and Ryu came out of one blaster. The rest came out of the other three. The Yadi Red /100 & Eddie Murray auto were in the same pack and the Vlad Gold Auto /50 and the Sheffield Blue Ref /199 were in the same pack too.

No more lite boxes for me. Hobby and retail only.
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Old 08-03-2022, 08:51 AM   #688
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I've been trying to figure out what you mean here. Are you saying this product is going to be scary as in good? It's never drying up, there is sooooo much out there.
Has anyone run the numbers? It doesn't seem like there's that many Lite boxes out there (did Topps even release it on their site?) Hobby has sold out. Maybe retail, but the rate people are hitting autos and whatnot from it, I can't imagine they made a TON of autos to go along with a TON of product...

I'm not going heavy on it, but I'm gonna hold a little bit for a rainy day...
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Old 08-03-2022, 09:17 AM   #689
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Equivalent of 20k hobby cases (240,000 boxes!!!). Should be 4-5 #ed parallels per hobby. This is assuming odds in hobby are consistent across all skus.

Too bad there are so many wasted cards on the checklist. 5 #'ed per hobby of good players would be a really fun break.
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Has anyone run the numbers? It doesn't seem like there's that many Lite boxes out there (did Topps even release it on their site?) Hobby has sold out. Maybe retail, but the rate people are hitting autos and whatnot from it, I can't imagine they made a TON of autos to go along with a TON of product...

I'm not going heavy on it, but I'm gonna hold a little bit for a rainy day...
There is tons of everything. Hobby, Lite, retail, autos, everything. That 240k hobby boxes equivalent was also assuming Lite and retail were similarly seeded, which I don't think they are (in the bad direction). Never reevaluated print runs because it was already at an order of magnitude that any changes didn't matter. Never say never, but this product is about the last one I'd expect to see a significant bump. The only thing it has going for it are some awesome singles, but those are insanely hard to hit. If holding just for a low-risk fun future rip, it definitely fits that bill.

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Old 08-03-2022, 09:28 AM   #690
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There is tons of everything. Hobby, Lite, retail, autos, everything. That 240k hobby boxes equivalent was also assuming Lite and retail were similarly seeded, which I don't think they are (in the bad direction). Never reevaluated print runs because it was already at an order of magnitude that any changes didn't matter. Never say never, but this product is about the last one I'd expect to see a significant bump. The only thing it has going for it are some awesome singles, but those are insanely hard to hit. If holding just for a low-risk fun future rip, it definitely fits that bill.
Ah ok. Yeah not expecting to make any money off this, just seems to be a quietly enjoyed product (maybe not entirely unlike A&G in a way) that folks seem to poo poo. Hope prices continue to drop so I can snag a hobby for ~$100
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Old 08-03-2022, 09:53 AM   #691
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Found 4 blasters in the wild today and snagged them up.

Glad I did. Closer to finishing the base set and had some pretty amazing luck.

The Dante Gold and Ryu came out of one blaster. The rest came out of the other three. The Yadi Red /100 & Eddie Murray auto were in the same pack and the Vlad Gold Auto /50 and the Sheffield Blue Ref /199 were in the same pack too.

No more lite boxes for me. Hobby and retail only.
Hot damn, you killed it! Congrats!
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:21 AM   #692
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There is tons of everything. Hobby, Lite, retail, autos, everything. That 240k hobby boxes equivalent was also assuming Lite and retail were similarly seeded, which I don't think they are (in the bad direction). Never reevaluated print runs because it was already at an order of magnitude that any changes didn't matter. Never say never, but this product is about the last one I'd expect to see a significant bump. The only thing it has going for it are some awesome singles, but those are insanely hard to hit. If holding just for a low-risk fun future rip, it definitely fits that bill.
It’s a nice solid quality product with on card autos, no redemptions that I’ve seen so far, and attractive parallels with a player selection that spans the generations - and it’s an unopened product that almost everyone can afford.

Card companies really should continue to make products like this.
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Old 08-03-2022, 11:24 AM   #693
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This product is all chrome right? With the print run, it probably single handedly is delaying other Topps and Panini products.
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Old 08-03-2022, 04:19 PM   #694
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With unnumbered autos in a set are the odds even across the board or can there be 5 Trout autos and 100 Melvin Mora? Never thought to ask this but i figure someone would know (whether for this set or historically speaking)
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Old 08-03-2022, 05:46 PM   #695
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I bought a blaster to check it out-fun rip and would buy more but the centering was so bad n majority of the box I can't justify more money towards it.
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Old 08-03-2022, 06:45 PM   #696
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With unnumbered autos in a set are the odds even across the board or can there be 5 Trout autos and 100 Melvin Mora? Never thought to ask this but i figure someone would know (whether for this set or historically speaking)
Topps 100% puts many more unnumbered autos of the lesser subjects in. It's never known, but the 5 Trout : 100 Mora is probably pretty close. That's not unique to this product though, they do it in everything.
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Old 08-03-2022, 07:24 PM   #697
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Purchased one box a few days ago. I like it

Probably won't buy anymore. I feel like I beat the odds and buying anymore would be a waste of money.

Base rookies:

Tarik Skubal, Jordan Weems, Rafael Marchan, Adonis Medina, Mickey Moniak, Daulton Jefferies, Seth Romero, Evan White, Luis Patino, Brailyn Marquez, Jonathan Arauz, Eddy Alvarez, Jake Woodford, Beau Burrows, Brent Rooker, Andres Gimenez, Chadwick Tromp, Ryan Weathers

Rookie Refractors:

Taylor Jones, Beau Burrows

Veteran Refractors:

Dallas Kuechel, Ryan Braun, Tommy Edman, Christian Walker

X-Fractor: Chris Taylor
Aqua Wave: Jake Cave
Blue Mini Diamonds /199: Frankie Montas
Red Atomic /100: Drew Rasmussen RC

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Hall of Famer/ Tony Oliva Blue Prism /99
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Old 08-04-2022, 09:43 AM   #698
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I bought a blaster to check it out-fun rip and would buy more but the centering was so bad n majority of the box I can't justify more money towards it.
Between the centering and terrible terrible print lines I should NOT be ripping anymore but I will.
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Old 08-04-2022, 12:39 PM   #699
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Now what's this... and how's it different than the red megas?

https://www.topps.com/cards-collecti...-mega-box.html
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Now what's this... and how's it different than the red megas?

https://www.topps.com/cards-collecti...-mega-box.html
I believe that is the “beating a dead horse” format
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