✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 278

Ra3 · 11-29-2021, 04:22 PM

Thanks for the replies to the question about the Ohtani red sapphire above…I knew the auto was more highly valued than the non-auto but was really just trying to figure out a rule of thumb percentage-wise…and I was looking at the acuna sapphire for help.

Instead, I guess I should have checked the ebay comps for the Ohtani cards directly! Looks like the regular unnumbered sapphire Ohtani autos in psa 10 went for 3-4x the non-autographed versions ($12k vs. ~$4k). Seems like a pretty big multiple, but that’s cool…maybe there are many more unnumbered non-auto sapphires than autographed ones…whereas the red sapphires are both /10?

al3xmac10 · 11-29-2021, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Well it isn't a card but I just got this in today...now to get it signed by Sho!

WOW!

HunterConnorMom · 11-29-2021, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ra3

Thanks for the replies to the question about the Ohtani red sapphire above…I knew the auto was more highly valued than the non-auto but was really just trying to figure out a rule of thumb percentage-wise…and I was looking at the acuna sapphire for help.

Instead, I guess I should have checked the ebay comps for the Ohtani cards directly! Looks like the regular unnumbered sapphire Ohtani autos in psa 10 went for 3-4x the non-autographed versions ($12k vs. ~$4k). Seems like a pretty big multiple, but that’s cool…maybe there are many more unnumbered non-auto sapphires than autographed ones…whereas the red sapphires are both /10?

Here’s a quick calculation. Please check.

Number of boxes = 702 cards in set x 1:4 superfractor odds in a box = 2808 boxes

2808 boxes x 100 base cards/box / 702 base cards = 400 base per player

2808 boxes x 3 autos per box = 8424 autos total

8424 autos / 19 players = 443 autos per player

443 autos - 86 numbered autos = 357 blue non-numbered autos

If only 2000 total boxes as per thread below then 285 base and 230 blue autos.

2018 sapphire thread:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1246536

Red sapphire auto is already $40k with a few hours remaining.

Ra3 · 11-30-2021, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterConnorMom

Here’s a quick calculation. Please check.

Number of boxes = 702 cards in set x 1:4 superfractor odds in a box = 2808 boxes

2808 boxes x 100 base cards/box / 702 base cards = 400 base per player

2808 boxes x 3 autos per box = 8424 autos total

8424 autos / 19 players = 443 autos per player

443 autos - 86 numbered autos = 357 blue non-numbered autos

If only 2000 total boxes as per thread below then 285 base and 230 blue autos.

2018 sapphire thread:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1246536

Red sapphire auto is already $40k with a few hours remaining.

Wow…well that auction ended pretty strongly for an off-season sale.

Thanks for the calculations, they look pretty good to me based on the stated math on the wax boxes. Even though a lot of the evidence and the statements in the sapphire thread is anecdotal, I do tend to believe the actual production was only 2000 boxes based on the 12 boxes I opened when 2018 sapphire first came out (most of my boxes had 4 parallels instead of 3, and/or an extra autograph).

Interesting that the numbers in each case for the autos and non-autos is pretty balanced, though.

Trueblue · 11-30-2021, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ra3

Wow…well that auction ended pretty strongly for an off-season sale.

Ultimate irony is someone bought a red and base PSA gem for $100k. The base gem just went for $12k and a red (not the exact same one) for $60k, so there is $28k plus fees to make up to break even. God speed!

Also, I'm late to the game, but I prefer the non-auto parallel that uses the #700 image. That IS his Topps rookie card image. I do not own any color sapphire parallels or autos anymore, fwiw. I get that the auto is going to be valued higher cause of it being an auto, but my long term bet is on the 700 image. The auto also does not pop on the sapphire background.

Ra3 · 11-30-2021, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ultimate irony is someone bought a red and base PSA gem for $100k. The base gem just went for $12k and a red (not the exact same one) for $60k, so there is $28k plus fees to make up to break even. God speed!

Also, I'm late to the game, but I prefer the non-auto parallel that uses the #700 image. That IS his Topps rookie card image. I do not own any color sapphire parallels or autos anymore, fwiw. I get that the auto is going to be valued higher cause of it being an auto, but my long term bet is on the 700 image. The auto also does not pop on the sapphire background.

I had totally forgotten about that $100k sale…! You’re right, I figured $60k was a nice number but in comparing it to the $100k combined sale, not so much…

Trueblue · 12-05-2021, 11:47 PM

Would anyone like to place a wager against this Ohtani guy? Dude would learn breakdancing if it kept him healthy and consistent.

https://halohangout.com/posts/secret...reaking-season

al3xmac10 · 12-06-2021, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Would anyone like to place a wager against this Ohtani guy? Dude would learn breakdancing if it kept him healthy and consistent.

https://halohangout.com/posts/secret...reaking-season

Nice article - thanks for sharing!

btw, Goldin just retweeted this:

hammertime · 12-07-2021, 12:51 PM

Got some Ohtanis back from SGC today.

hammertime · 12-07-2021, 01:47 PM

Some other recent pickups...still mostly bottom-feeding but I did pick up a couple nicer things, and some more of his Japanese cards.

(incidentally, does anyone know how easy these GMA slabs are to crack?)

Asian62150 · 12-07-2021, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Also, I'm late to the game, but I prefer the non-auto parallel that uses the #700 image. That IS his Topps rookie card image. I do not own any color sapphire parallels or autos anymore, fwiw. I get that the auto is going to be valued higher cause of it being an auto, but my long term bet is on the 700 image. The auto also does not pop on the sapphire background.

It would have been interesting if Topps made two equally printed versions of #700 (pitching/hitting) and seen which one was more popular.

Trueblue · 12-07-2021, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Got some Ohtanis back from SGC today.

Transcendent party cards continue to be one of the best buys for reasonably priced super short print RCs. Tough to grade high due to the thickness of the card stock too. They are also glossy and were packed tight like a sardine can so bricking will occur for unopened sets. Nice!

Trueblue · 12-07-2021, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Asian62150

It would have been interesting if Topps made two equally printed versions of #700 (pitching/hitting) and seen which one was more popular.

I think the bowman 49 and Heritage low image represents the hype peak when he came stateside. Flagship always has it's place near the top, but those were the images burned into everyone's mind at the time. Personally, the bowman pitching is my favorite!

whalechaser · 12-07-2021, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Incidentally, does anyone know how easy these GMA slabs are to crack?)

GMA slabs are really easy to crack. Flimsy

hammertime · 12-07-2021, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by whalechaser

GMA slabs are really easy to crack. Flimsy

Great to hear...that's what I was hoping...thanks!

NYRE2PECT · 12-07-2021, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Got some Ohtanis back from SGC today.

Those look really nice in the black slabs!

RW3FAN · 12-08-2021, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Got some Ohtanis back from SGC today.

Love it!
I have the 1979

Onepocketj · 12-09-2021, 08:28 PM

Guess he should have quit the last month so he could get Athlete of the Year. What an embarrassment to give it to Biles.

imbluestreak23 · 12-09-2021, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Guess he should have quit the last month so he could get Athlete of the Year. What an embarrassment to give it to Biles.

What a complete embarrassment.

Might as well have given it to the PA *women’s swimmer. At least he/she/they are competing lol. This world…SMH

Rage · 12-09-2021, 08:56 PM

Anything to get clicks, thanks TIME

Trueblue · 12-11-2021, 02:20 AM

Third year inserts usually aren't my thing but I couldn't resist! Can't wait for next year!

1800gambler · 12-11-2021, 03:01 AM

Bought 3 value packs of 2019 Chrome that arrived today. I was looking for Tatis and Vlads and wound up with these nice little second year ohtanis. Gold 1984 throwback /50 and Pink refractor cup card. No luck on the the Tatis and Vlads but I’ll take what I can get! Haha

NYRE2PECT · 12-11-2021, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Third year inserts usually aren't my thing but I couldn't resist! Can't wait for next year!

Is that a foilboard-like finish? They look great!

Trueblue · 12-11-2021, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Is that a foilboard-like finish? They look great!

Yes, a shimmery foil finish!

thanks!

GMRide27 · 12-12-2021, 09:06 PM

So……

Those “Private Signings” card. Worth it?

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12-11-2021, 03:01 AM	#6947
1800gambler Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 302	Bought 3 value packs of 2019 Chrome that arrived today. I was looking for Tatis and Vlads and wound up with these nice little second year ohtanis. Gold 1984 throwback /50 and Pink refractor cup card. No luck on the the Tatis and Vlads but I’ll take what I can get! Haha Last edited by 1800gambler; 12-11-2021 at 03:31 AM.

11-29-2021, 04:22 PM	#6926
Ra3 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 820	Thanks for the replies to the question about the Ohtani red sapphire above…I knew the auto was more highly valued than the non-auto but was really just trying to figure out a rule of thumb percentage-wise…and I was looking at the acuna sapphire for help. Instead, I guess I should have checked the ebay comps for the Ohtani cards directly! Looks like the regular unnumbered sapphire Ohtani autos in psa 10 went for 3-4x the non-autographed versions ($12k vs. ~$4k). Seems like a pretty big multiple, but that’s cool…maybe there are many more unnumbered non-auto sapphires than autographed ones…whereas the red sapphires are both /10?

12-05-2021, 11:47 PM	#6932
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,824	Would anyone like to place a wager against this Ohtani guy? Dude would learn breakdancing if it kept him healthy and consistent. https://halohangout.com/posts/secret...reaking-season

12-07-2021, 12:51 PM	#6934
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,935	Got some Ohtanis back from SGC today.

12-07-2021, 01:47 PM	#6935
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,935	Some other recent pickups...still mostly bottom-feeding but I did pick up a couple nicer things, and some more of his Japanese cards. (incidentally, does anyone know how easy these GMA slabs are to crack?)

12-09-2021, 08:28 PM	#6943
Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,853 jeflave-0 onepocketj	Guess he should have quit the last month so he could get Athlete of the Year. What an embarrassment to give it to Biles.

12-11-2021, 02:20 AM	#6946
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,824	Third year inserts usually aren't my thing but I couldn't resist! Can't wait for next year!

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GMRide27 Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 705	So…… Those “Private Signings” card. Worth it?