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Old 12-13-2020, 11:57 AM   #67601
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Haha wow.

You said those things yourself, no? Did you not say these things were fundamentally unknowable and then claim to know them?

I'm not going to get into the merits of religion in this thread though. I see you trying to bait me. I've said all I'm going to say in here about it. You know where I stand and I know where you stand.

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Let me paraphrase how this went down since you must be missing the progression of this argument.

1) You said people have their heads in the clouds about religion, but it's not bad if it's not causing wars.

2) I said I agree with the above besides the fact that their oblivious. They put their faith into something that is unknown. We both can't say someone is oblivious to something there is NO evidence to.

3) You said I can say that because there is no evidence and I said I have as much evidence as you.

Just because I believe in God does not mean I think you are oblivious for not doing so. I understand you have nothing to base this on. The reason I do believe in God is the same reason as you don’t. I have no evidence to say he is not real. We both believe in the same premise. It's completely unknown. But our interpretation of the unknown is clearly different. You think there is no almighty being and I do. BUT NEITHER of these can be disproven which can't make either of us right or wrong. It's unknown.
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Old 12-13-2020, 11:57 AM   #67602
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Old 12-13-2020, 11:58 AM   #67603
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You do tend to display traits of someone living in a fantasy world...
and you tend to display traits of TDS.
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Old 12-13-2020, 11:59 AM   #67604
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Seriously, what has Trump accomplished? Daddy left him some money and a bunch of lucrative properties and venture opportunities...he ran most of them into the ground, has had multiple failed marriages, and will go down as one of the worst presidents in US history...some accomplishments, LOL
Worst US president. Imagine being awesome enough to even become one in the first place. At least you have “political trolling on Blowout Sports subforum” to add so that you have a full page resume.
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Well it's relevant to Hunter, sure. If Joe was part of it, fry the mfer. If he wasn't, it shouldn't affect his presidency. More likely it will remain unclear whether he was involved or if he knew and looked the other way. That could be a problem as well.

But to answer the direct question, if Joe wasn't involved then yeah, no big deal.

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You'll come in here and tell me how awful Trump is, how dangerous, how terrible, how XXX because of the things he says; but then you say VP family getting rich from illegal deals w/ China is something the public shouldn't care about.

For you, words are more important than actions. An extremely liberal position.
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I wash my hands 20x a day.
Are they dry? If they’re not dry and you also don’t require moisturized to maintain them, that’s hella impressive.
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Its happening guys. The last stanza. I told you all that the time was near, now here we are. Everything is falling into place. The 4th stage in the reckoning of the 7 hidden life forces is now upon us. The north star and 2 subsequent stars have aligned to form the perfect triangle, revealing the eye of the illuminati. We've won the battle against those waging the war of the purple star and the tree of concealment is now baring fruit. The lizard people await our imminent demise, interspecies martial law is all that awaits. Just watch! Grab your popcorn! I told you all I was right and now look!

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and you tend to display traits of TDS.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Are they dry? If they’re not dry and you also don’t require moisturized to maintain them, that’s hella impressive.
I can't wash them more than once/twice a day; starting to crack between the fingers and even had to resort to dishwashing gloves. w/ the cold Connecticut winters, it's crazy to think people wash them more.
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You'll come in here and tell me how awful Trump is, how dangerous, how terrible, how XXX because of the things he says; but then you say VP family getting rich from illegal deals w/ China is something the public shouldn't care about.



For you, words are more important than actions. An extremely liberal position.
Perhaps.

I just think Joe is responsible for Joe's actions and Hunter for Hunter's. I wouldn't hold Hunter's crap against Joe unless Joe was somehow complicit.

Care? I think the public deserves to see justice done for any crimes committed by anyone involved. If that doesn't include Joe, then it's a side-story at best. Hunter is a nobody.

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typical lib, more fake news.
Less than 800 handwashings left for you until you're gone from here.
That really brings it home.
Parting shall be such sweet sorrow...
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Perhaps.

I just think Joe is responsible for Joe's actions and Hunter for Hunter's. I wouldn't hold Hunter's crap against Joe unless Joe was somehow complicit.
Well this is very very true. No argument from me.

But there are degrees to which you must be willing to move within. While it may not be something that ultimately should determine whether or not Joe Biden is qualified for President, to suggest the public shouldn't care is unkind. In a perfect world, allegations are brought, evidence is shown and the public decides whether or not it matters.

Even after the election, that NBC News is telling its readers yes there is a Federal Investigation but Republican claims are baseless is a flat out lie. An attempt to do what you suggest; tell people it does not matter and to move on. It is not the job of the press to tell us what matters, it is the job of the press to tell us what is.

And this is the primary reason for the vitriol many people feel for the press today; an orginization at large that continues to attempt to persuade rather than inform.
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*reads Chezz location*

Yeah, I would say so.

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Old 12-13-2020, 12:14 PM   #67614
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That really brings it home.
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If he doesn’t follow through on deactivation I think we make it mandatory that everyone puts him on ignore.
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Well this is very very true. No argument from me.

But there are degrees to which you must be willing to move within. While it may not be something that ultimately should determine whether or not Joe Biden is qualified for President, to suggest the public shouldn't care is unkind. In a perfect world, allegations are brought, evidence is shown and the public decides whether or not it matters.

Even after the election, that NBC News is telling its readers yes there is a Federal Investigation but Republican claims are baseless is a flat out lie. An attempt to do what you suggest; tell people it does not matter and to move on. It is not the job of the press to tell us what matters, it is the job of the press to tell us what is.

And this is the primary reason for the vitriol many people feel for the press today; an orginization at large that continues to attempt to persuade rather than inform.
Sadly, the press has to decide what to cover, so they have to decide what matters most to their viewers. A light drizzle in the early morning hours in Alabama isn't going to make the news, but it happened and somebody decided it wasn't important.

Accusations haven't even been formally made yet, against a private citizen that does not hold any public office. That's all that has happened.

Also, I think the investigation into Hunter isn't all about dealings with China. I think it's about tax issues. Because the investigation hasn't been conducted in open view for all of us to see, it's all speculation at this point. Is that what they should be reporting? Somebody speculated that this investigation is about such and such and it'll result in so and so down the line. Excellent reporting, lol.

If/when something concrete can be reported, I'm sure they'll have at it.

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I guess if you are not capable of independent thought, sure.
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Sweetheart deals from China are one of the reasons Ivanka will be locked up with the rest of her grifter family.



(Note: Eric will be in a special "kiddie" cell)
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Old 12-13-2020, 12:30 PM   #67618
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I guess if you are not capable of independent thought, sure.
Yes, but it's not that simple. The vast majority of Americans have grown very comfortable w/ their sources for news and being led the way in which they are being told.

For too many, MSNBC is 100% factual. Same w/ Fox News, CNN, NY Times, Daily Caller etc. Critical thinking is dying and it in combination w/ the revenue media companies are taking in for becoming partisan; that the independent thinking crowd is thinning. The question, like the one Mike brought about last night is what to do about it?

Can there be a legitimate, successful news source in this country that remains non-partisan and simply informs? IDK.
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Yes, but it's not that simple. The vast majority of Americans have grown very comfortable w/ their sources for news and being led the way in which they are being told.

For too many, MSNBC is 100% factual. Same w/ Fox News, CNN, NY Times, Daily Caller etc. Critical thinking is dying and it in combination w/ the revenue media companies are taking in for becoming partisan; that the independent thinking crowd is thinning. The question, like the one Mike brought about last night is what to do about it?

Can there be a legitimate, successful news source in this country that remains non-partisan and simply informs? IDK.
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Old 12-13-2020, 12:35 PM   #67620
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That really brings it home.
Parting shall be such sweet sorrow...
He already said he wasn’t confident enough to put up his account. He couldn’t “take the chance” haha
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He won't have a choice.
Act 4 has already been written. He won't like it much.
Hold on to your Maga hats, Trump co-conspirators out there.
We've turned JFK Jr. to our side.
Cold justice is forthcoming.
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I guess if you are not capable of independent thought, sure.
You just described over 80 million people on the left in this country

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Yeah, no.

Surely some of the 80 million votes were lefties incapable of thinking for themselves, but I'm guessing that 20 million of those votes came from people not necessarily on the left that simply can't stand Trump. To be a centrist or righty voting against Trump rather than for Biden says an awful lot.

Conversely, 70 million righties of the 74 million votes fit into the category of spoon fed garbage voters driven by nutjobs with a media platform.

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Day 40 and she hasn't given up her seat.
...and you still haven't done cursory research into others who often do the same.

Facts ellude you, along with any inclination to pursue truth or fact.

Enjoy the regurgitation of stupid, little baby bird.
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Yeah, no.

Surely some of the 80 million votes were lefties incapable of thinking for themselves, but I'm guessing that 20 million of those votes came from people not necessarily on the left that simply can't stand Trump. To be a centrist or righty voting against Trump rather than for Biden says an awful lot.

Conversely, 70 million righties of the 74 million votes fit into the category of spoon fed garbage voters driven by nutjobs with a media platform.

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