The Hotstove Thread - Page 27

Hollywood42 · 12-10-2018, 05:59 PM

Mutual interest between Twins and Cruz. I'd be all for it if it's 1 year, maybe 2

prospects · 12-10-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Mutual interest between Twins and Cruz. I'd be all for it if it's 1 year, maybe 2

what a pathetic franchise you root for.

Hollywood42 · 12-10-2018, 06:03 PM

Oh... I'm honestly at a loss for words! I'm sorry you feel that way? Lol I really don't know what to say

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what a pathetic franchise you root for.

premium1981 · 12-10-2018, 06:05 PM

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what a pathetic franchise you root for.

Aren't you a Mets fan?

Firerunner4 · 12-10-2018, 06:15 PM

Pirates interested in Nick Ahmed

Homerun · 12-10-2018, 07:17 PM

@michaeljduarte "Rival executive told me today that he believes the Bryce Harper sweepstakes (as of Mon.) is down to three teams: #Phillies #WhiteSox and #Dodgers. A lot of other moves would need to be made first for LA to land Harper, AND I'm told team is hesitant to meet Boras asking price."

gonygo · 12-10-2018, 07:25 PM

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@michaeljduarte "Rival executive told me today that he believes the Bryce Harper sweepstakes (as of Mon.) is down to three teams: #Phillies #WhiteSox and #Dodgers. A lot of other moves would need to be made first for LA to land Harper, AND I'm told team is hesitant to meet Boras asking price."

Since you’re a big Whitesox fan. Curious as what and why aside from a large pay day would Bryce want to sign w the Sox in your opinion?? Also what’s the concensus from other Sox fans. Do most want him to sign??

CoolG · 12-10-2018, 07:33 PM

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/vi...er-sweepstakes

many ways to get creative in the luxury$ situation......

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...cy/2191750002/

lambeauleap87 · 12-10-2018, 07:48 PM

Kluber to the Dodgers sounding more and more likely, and it's really the only deal that would make sense. Brewers don't have the centerpiece to get a deal done, and the Indians aren't trading him to the Yankees (especially not with Florial or Frazier as the OF centerpiece).

Hollywood42 · 12-10-2018, 07:58 PM

Makes too much sense, IMO. Dodgers have a ton of different options they could send from the outfield and can put the best package together (hopefully not too good

). Dodgers rotation would be getting pretty crazy if they do get him, with a top 3 of Kluber, Kershaw, Buehler

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Kluber to the Dodgers sounding more and more likely, and it's really the only deal that would make sense. Brewers don't have the centerpiece to get a deal done, and the Indians aren't trading him to the Yankees (especially not with Florial or Frazier as the OF centerpiece).

JackThree · 12-10-2018, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gonygo

Since you’re a big Whitesox fan. Curious as what and why aside from a large pay day would Bryce want to sign w the Sox in your opinion?? Also what’s the concensus from other Sox fans. Do most want him to sign??

Um, yes.

lambeauleap87 · 12-10-2018, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Makes too much sense, IMO. Dodgers have a ton of different options they could send from the outfield and can put the best package together (hopefully not too good

). Dodgers rotation would be getting pretty crazy if they do get him, with a top 3 of Kluber, Kershaw, Buehler

I'm in the boat that the Indians don't need to make a trade involving a starter, so the haul had better be massive (as it should be for a cost-controlled ace). Verdugo + Puig or Pederson ++ or you sit on it.

tkraft24 · 12-10-2018, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Kluber to the Dodgers sounding more and more likely, and it's really the only deal that would make sense. Brewers don't have the centerpiece to get a deal done, and the Indians aren't trading him to the Yankees (especially not with Florial or Frazier as the OF centerpiece).

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Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Makes too much sense, IMO. Dodgers have a ton of different options they could send from the outfield and can put the best package together (hopefully not too good

). Dodgers rotation would be getting pretty crazy if they do get him, with a top 3 of Kluber, Kershaw, Buehler

Agreed. I wonder if the Indians are trying to lump in Kipnis which might be a sticking point right now.

mwash1983 · 12-10-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Makes too much sense, IMO. Dodgers have a ton of different options they could send from the outfield and can put the best package together (hopefully not too good

). Dodgers rotation would be getting pretty crazy if they do get him, with a top 3 of Kluber, Kershaw, Buehler

Nice top 3 for the regular season, 2 of the 3 are terrible post season pitchers.

Chris Lyle · 12-10-2018, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Kluber to the Dodgers sounding more and more likely, and it's really the only deal that would make sense. Brewers don't have the centerpiece to get a deal done, and the Indians aren't trading him to the Yankees (especially not with Florial or Frazier as the OF centerpiece).

Yeah im liking the idea of a deal with the dodgers wonder what the package may look like

Chris Lyle · 12-10-2018, 08:11 PM

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Agreed. I wonder if the Indians are trying to lump in Kipnis which might be a sticking point right now.

Hopefully they dont try to lump in kip or anybody like it. It inly drives down the return for a 2 time cy young winner

lambeauleap87 · 12-10-2018, 08:13 PM

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Nice top 3 for the regular season, 2 of the 3 are terrible post season pitchers.

Kluber had a 1.83 ERA over six starts in the 2016 WS run, lest we not forget.

Chris Lyle · 12-10-2018, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

I'm in the boat that the Indians don't need to make a trade involving a starter, so the haul had better be massive (as it should be for a cost-controlled ace). Verdugo + Puig or Pederson ++ or you sit on it.

Im with you if the package isnt a home run then dont do it. Figure something else out to trim payroll

Chris Lyle · 12-10-2018, 08:15 PM

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Kluber had a 1.83 ERA over six starts in the 2016 WS run, lest we not forget.

As usual its what have you done for me lately with alot of people.

Homerun · 12-10-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gonygo

Since you’re a big Whitesox fan. Curious as what and why aside from a large pay day would Bryce want to sign w the Sox in your opinion?? Also what’s the concensus from other Sox fans. Do most want him to sign??

Yeah, pretty much all Sox fans are on board with either him or Machado. I personally prefer Harper but I would be happy with Machado as well. Money is the main reason why Harper would want to sign with the Sox (and I think the Sox will have to overpay to make it happen), but they also have a bright future despite their record last year and they play in one of the weakest divisions in baseball. Not to mention that Chicago is a huge market and Harper seems to like it.

JrFinest · 12-10-2018, 08:17 PM

LA seems to be attempting to become the evil empire of the national league. Just haven't figured out the winning part of it yet.

lambeauleap87 · 12-10-2018, 08:18 PM

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Im with you if the package isnt a home run then dont do it. Figure something else out to trim payroll

Yeah, they're not rebuilding - they're relocating assets - and it makes a ton of sense to trade depreciating assets that they have a wealth of to fill holes. I'm on board with moving a starter, even though it sucks. They still will have Carrasco/Bauer/Bieber/Clevinger with other options in the minors. It makes sense.

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As usual its what have you done for me lately with alot of people.

That rotation was literally Kluber and Josh Tomlin for most of the playoffs, he put the team absolutely on his back.

Chris Lyle · 12-10-2018, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Yeah, they're not rebuilding - they're relocating assets - and it makes a ton of sense to trade depreciating assets that they have a wealth of to fill holes. I'm on board with moving a starter, even though it sucks. They still will have Carrasco/Bauer/Bieber/Clevinger with other options in the minors. It makes sense.

That rotation was literally Kluber and Josh Tomlin for most of the playoffs, he put the team absolutely on his back.

Im totally with Kluber carried us in 16. I was just saying the logic behind the other guy

awz50 · 12-10-2018, 08:31 PM

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what a pathetic franchise you root for.

Uh ok.

jswest18 · 12-10-2018, 09:10 PM

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Dodgers are rumored to be after Harper.

IF that were to happen, the Dodgers start unloading all outfielders not named Bellinger.

Puig, Verdugo, and Pederson SHOULD generate substantial interest and can be packaged with competent starting pitching including Alex wood, Ross Stripling, and/or Rich Hill as well as prospects.

This stuff never works out 100%, but I think it’s pretty awesome if the Dodgers Wall away from the winter meetings with Harper, Kluber, Realmuto, and a couple relievers.

If this happens they win the offseason hands down. That would be an incredible haul for one team. It would leave them pretty bare in the cupboard and without much depth though.

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