2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by discostu

Of those 3, I use Instagram once a week, WhatsApp every day (work) and my facebook account has seen maybe 10 posts/comments/likes in over 4 years.

Sir smugness could use a crack across the chin..hope to see something happen. Not really caring about the what or why, just happy to see a wintery thwap across the brow.

I'm starting to get the feeling that you simply want to see people reduced to ash.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

From the consumer's side this may be the only difference I suppose.

The thing is though, Facebook acquired them when they weren't really successful to my knowledge. Then basically Facebook spends millions to integrate them into their system and now the government wants to break them up. Personally I don't even understand how breaking them up benefits the consumer. Maybe there is something I'm missing though.

Yea, I don't understand it much either. I don't know what breaking these entities up into 3 companies does and I certainly don't know how it would impact the consumer if it happens outside of what I suggested, new ownership and perhaps changes in features.

It's early in the process and while I haven't really dug into articles about the ramifications, I also haven't seen much in general searches that makes me thing this is significant other than to stick it to Zuck.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by jdandns

What on Earth are you talking about?
The date of the article is immaterial. It confirms Gobert's mid March diagnosis and the sickness that immediately followed, information widely known before your wildly inaccurate post in late April .

Since that wasn't clear to you, here's another article that confirms both aspects (diagnosis & illness) that was published in late March, weeks before you soared sky high on your ridiculous flight of fancy.

https://www.fox13now.com/sports/jazz...-with-covid-19

Just how deep are you planning to dig your hole on this one, buddy?
Careful that molten core!!!

Von Miller was known to have been sick with it in spring as well. The Broncos released a statement on 4/16

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by rman112

Um. He clearly said he works as an emergency call taker.

Um. So you're thinking he does that as some kind of unpaid volunteer work, out of the goodness of his heart?
He didn't care about any one else's mental health before Covid-19 hit.
Why would he care about it now that it has?

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

So I am not sure what you are talking about here, but to call someone out like this and seemingly make light of the struggles that children are going through due to the lockdowns and the narratives that get pushed with Covid. This personally has hit my family my cousin's wife has had a life long struggle with depression and anxiety and the fear of Covid-19 and the lockdowns has pushed her over the age and my cousin instead of trying to get her to take the meds that she has been given has bought into the fear, etc. so much to the fact that their oldest son had to move in with my aunt and uncle (his grandparents) to be able to go to his technical school. The mental struggle for people is real.

Have you met SnoobyMotes yet?
He's the dude who stole my avatar, and he (not me, never, as I feel great sympathy for your family) has something he'd like to tell you, the same response he gave to someone else detailing his family's struggles with the virus only hours ago:

Originally Posted by cnewby

Meh, virus gonna virus.

Snoobs, you're terrible!!!

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by HeadstrongRSS

Full on confirmation bias mode right here. Shockingly, you only consider outlets that share your world view as valid, and "look what all the others have become". Nonsense.

HS, I don't want to rehash this but I do want to point out that the chart you posted is comical. I've resized it and put a nice big blue box around "Centrist" NPR. I've also included a lovely message from them about the Hunter Biden story in October.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Von Miller was known to have been sick with it in spring as well. The Broncos released a statement on 4/16

For reference.

https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/b...d-19-diagnosis

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Von Miller was known to have been sick with it in spring as well. The Broncos released a statement on 4/16

We've already done this. These were posted in the COVID thread back in time.

(And this is Von Miller's interview where he said he was shocked to learn of his diagnosis, felt like his regular Asthma)

https://laramielive.com/broncos-von-...-19-diagnosis/

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Yea, I don't understand it much either. I don't know what breaking these entities up into 3 companies does and I certainly don't know how it would impact the consumer if it happens outside of what I suggested, new ownership and perhaps changes in features.

It's early in the process and while I haven't really dug into articles about the ramifications, I also haven't seen much in general searches that makes me thing this is significant other than to stick it to Zuck.

Yeah thats my feeling too. It seems to be that way towards other big tech companies as well. I'm just surprised by the bipartisan support towards breaking up these companies where I actually think they benefit consumers more than broken up. I'm starting to think our government is trying to "flex" its strength which in this case I don't see as beneficial.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Um. So you're thinking he does that as some kind of unpaid volunteer work, out of the goodness of his heart?
He didn't care about any one else's mental health before Covid-19 hit.
Why would he care about it now that it has?



Have you met SnoobyMotes yet?
He's the dude who stole my avatar, and he (not me, never, as I feel great sympathy for your family) has something he'd like to tell you, the same response he gave to someone else detailing his family's struggles with the virus only hours ago:



Snoobs, you're terrible!!!

Way to take what cnewb's was saying that towards out of context. He said that because Heel decided to blame Trump for the spread, etc. while mentioning his FIL's struggles. Nice try though. I still would like to understand some history of your comments towards Firerunner because it makes it look like you take the struggles lightly, etc.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Um. So you're thinking he does that as some kind of unpaid volunteer work, out of the goodness of his heart?
He didn't care about any one else's mental health before Covid-19 hit.
Why would he care about it now that it has?

Oy.. SMH.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Yeah thats my feeling too. It seems to be that way towards other big tech companies as well. I'm just surprised by the bipartisan support towards breaking up these companies where I actually think they benefit consumers more than broken up. I'm starting to think our government is trying to "flex" its strength which in this case I don't see as beneficial.

When you look at a company like Google; you come to the conclusion that they have a massive amount of power. The likes of Yahoo!, DuckDuckGo, Bing etc. don't seem to have any reasonable market share but is the government supposed to do something about it? The republican ideal is that the free market will determine viability and so if said companies want market share, they should do something about it.

Why the government has picked on FB here, I don't know. I hope to learn and understand but seems silly to me right now.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

We've already done this. These were posted in the COVID thread back in time.

(And this is Von Miller's interview where he said he was shocked to learn of his diagnosis, felt like his regular Asthma)

https://laramielive.com/broncos-von-...-19-diagnosis/

So it felt like asthma, he treated it like asthma but his nebulizer didn’t work, found out he he had COVID, but he wasn’t sick because he initially thought it was asthma?

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Way to take what cnewb's was saying that towards out of context. He said that because Heel decided to blame Trump for the spread, etc. while mentioning his FIL's struggles. Nice try though. I still would like to understand some history of your comments towards Firerunner because it makes it look like you take the struggles lightly, etc.

No worries, nobody takes him serious anyways. Word salads galore.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

When you look at a company like Google; you come to the conclusion that they have a massive amount of power. The likes of Yahoo!, DuckDuckGo, Bing etc. don't seem to have any reasonable market share but is the government supposed to do something about it? The republican ideal is that the free market will determine viability and so if said companies want market share, they should do something about it.

Why the government has picked on FB here, I don't know. I hope to learn and understand but seems silly to me right now.

I wasn't going to include google originally for that reason, but then I kinda thought about it. Google and yahoo are both free, why do you use google? It's just a better product. Should apple stop making iphones because they (I think in most peoples opinion) are superior to samsung? For google or yahoo, the consumer doesn't pay for its services. The generate more revenue by using information they gather on the user. Is it googles fault that yahoo isn't superior? You split google and youtube, what does that do for the consumer again?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

So it felt like asthma, he treated it like asthma but his nebulizer didn’t work, found out he he had COVID, but he wasn’t sick because he initially thought it was asthma?

Von Miller certainly did not say he was sick. He said many times, he felt good, he felt fine and he was surprised to learn of his diagnosis. It's on video.

IDK; I believe him.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

I wasn't going to include google originally for that reason, but then I kinda thought about it. Google and yahoo are both free, why do you use google? It's just a better product. Should apple stop making iphones because they (I think in most peoples opinion) are superior to samsung? For google or yahoo, the consumer doesn't pay for its services. The generate more revenue by using information they gather on the user. Is it googles fault that yahoo isn't superior? You split google and youtube, what does that do for the consumer again?

Right. The ends don't make sense. Now you have Google, which is still all-powerful in the search game, just without YouTube. What does that do?

IDK.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Way to take what cnewb's was saying that towards out of context. He said that because Heel decided to blame Trump for the spread, etc. while mentioning his FIL's struggles. Nice try though. I still would like to understand some history of your comments towards Firerunner because it makes it look like you take the struggles lightly, etc.

I could answer, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for you quitting the thread again.

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Von Miller was known to have been sick with it in spring as well. The Broncos released a statement on 4/16

Right, the whole point of Chapman's taking that absurd line in the first place is part and parcel of the same nonsense he's still trying to push which is Covid-19 is no big deal, no worse than the flu.

Early on, him and his lot used to toss around that 70,000 yearly deaths-from-the-regular-flu number to minimize the devastating effects of coronavirus, but they reluctantly had to let that one go once deaths from Covid-19 in 2020 soared past it. Now that we've quadrupled that grim number, well, you're witnessing what they're reduced to, and all in service of their Master Trump, in effort to minimize his shameful dereliction of duty that made this outbreak so much worse than it had to be.

I knew Trump as President would be a disaster beyond compare and that he would not be re-elected, but I never thought another mass casualty event would happen to this country every single day on his way out. Another 3,000+ plus dead today on his watch. Looks like more of the same tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow.

In less than 1,000 hours from now, Donnie One-Term will lose a whole lot of his shine to those who bizarrely still revere him. Why do you think Trump's disciples are so buzzy 'round here (and elsewhere) these days?

Tick tock, orange man worst...

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by jdandns

In less than 1,000 hours from now, Donnie One-Term will lose a whole lot of his shine to those who bizarrely still revere him. Why do you think Trump's disciples are so buzzy 'round here (and elsewhere) these days?

Tick tock, orange man worst...

Good to have you back on track!

1,000 hours is a long time though. Pretty sure the man has at least one more ace up his sleeve to send the country into super duper crazy mode!

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Right. The ends don't make sense. Now you have Google, which is still all-powerful in the search game, just without YouTube. What does that do?

IDK.

Well is your problem that they own almost all of the search game? I don't see it as a problem (at least as of right now) because it's free. Given nothing changes, for you or me, what is the benefit of yahoo? If they charged for their service I could understand the argument. Even if it was the only search engine, I don't see a problem until they were to start charging for it. Then I could understand government intervening because they would now be taking advantage of their market share. I only see monopolies as a problem when they cause disadvantages to the consumers. Amazon is arguably a monopoly but we benefit because of their advanced supply chain and I'd argue we'd be worse off without them.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I could answer, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for you quitting the thread again.



Right, the whole point of Chapman's taking that absurd line in the first place is part and parcel of the same nonsense he's still trying to push which is Covid-19 is no big deal, no worse than the flu.

Early on, him and his lot used to toss around that 70,000 yearly deaths-from-the-regular-flu number to minimize the devastating effects of coronavirus, but they reluctantly had to let that one go once deaths from Covid-19 in 2020 soared past it. Now that we've quadrupled that grim number, well, you're witnessing what they're reduced to, and all in service of their Master Trump, in effort to minimize his shameful dereliction of duty that made this outbreak so much worse than it had to be.

I knew Trump as President would be a disaster beyond compare and that he would not be re-elected, but I never thought another mass casualty event would happen to this country every single day on his way out. Another 3,000+ plus dead today on his watch. Looks like more of the same tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow.

In less than 1,000 hours from now, Donnie One-Term will lose a whole lot of his shine to those who bizarrely still revere him. Why do you think Trump's disciples are so buzzy 'round here (and elsewhere) these days?

Tick tock, orange man worst...

Way to dodge the question. Nice job.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Well is your problem that they own almost all of the search game? I don't see it as a problem (at least as of right now) because it's free. Given nothing changes, for you or me, what is the benefit of yahoo? If they charged for their service I could understand the argument. Even if it was the only search engine, I don't see a problem until they were to start charging for it. Then I could understand government intervening because they would now be taking advantage of their market share. I only see monopolies as a problem when they cause disadvantages to the consumers. Amazon is arguably a monopoly but we benefit because of their advanced supply chain and I'd argue we'd be worse off without them.

No, I have no problem. My point is that I don't believe the government has any business attempting to break these companies up unless as you stated, harm is being done to the consumer.

I just used Google as an example to say that the monopoly they have was largely created through their own excellence, passing Yahoo! a decade+ ago. Many people chime in to say they are too big and too powerful and while I agree they are both big and powerful, I don't believe it's the governments job to do something about it. That should come from the private sector.

So I don't like the suit simply on merit.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Way to dodge the question. Nice job.

That's it! I'm done. I'm quitting the thread! For good, too!
I mean it!

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Good to have you back on track!

1,000 hours is a long time though. Pretty sure the man has at least one more ace up his sleeve to send the country into super duper crazy mode!

Not back on track.
Still on track, only now for victory laps.

[Firerunner4]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Welp, it's official.
The Sore Loser Hall of Fame is gonna need another wing.



Crocodile tears over suicides from you is priceless.
Before this corona mess, people like you tripped over each other to call weak and otherwise disparage anyone who committed suicide.
You didn't care about anyone's mental health before, but now you're tied up in knots over it?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. More likely you simply don't like being inconvenienced to help anyone other than yourself.

Can you please show me where I disparaged anyone who committed suicide or talked badly about mental health? I will wait

No crocodile tears from me, I’m simply stating something that I’ve directly experienced as a by product from these pathetic lockdowns. They’re doing far more harm than good. That is all I’m saying

You are correct, I’ve worked for 13 years in this job, and 17 years overall in emergency services because I don’t like helping people. You got me. I’ve been inconvenienced for almost two decades because I’m so selfish.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by jdandns

That's it! I'm done. I'm quitting the thread! For good, too!
I mean it!

Sorry to hear it. I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought up me taking a couple day time out from the thread...