Patrick Mahomes Prices

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Aren't the Prizm #269 base the same as silver prizms even though they are not labelled as such? I mean shiny and refractor like...

Yes. People need to remember that the Prizm is going to be the registry card. It's also has the bonus of being both a "base" AND a "refractor", similar to 2001 and 2002 Topps Chrome. The Select Field Level is never going to catch it as a "need to have card". Obviously I don't know the future, but I feel pretty confident there.

[dbpsooner]

It would be a good poll question. I don’t own either but would buy a field level before a prizm and it’s not close for me. I feel like you could buy the prizm any time. Having said that, I find myself swimming upstream often with cards, which is fine with me.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

It would be a good poll question. I don’t own either but would buy a field level before a prizm and it’s not close for me. I feel like you could buy the prizm any time. Having said that, I find myself swimming upstream often with cards, which is fine with me.

There's nothing wrong with that, if you're a collector buy what you like! Don't worry about future value, especially if you're not going to sell.

[weeds73]

I also prefer the Select line to the Prizm and Optic base cards, though it is hard to argue against Prizm being the most valuable "base" rookie in the long term. To solve this issue, I just decided to acquire them all...

I think the XRC Select Redemption will be the most valuable one over time, unless you don't count that as a "base" card. Anyone know the print count of the XRC?

[arod305]

One in the mail today. Gonna get resent to BGS. Need a 9 lol, price was pretty good compared to 9s do.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Yes. People need to remember that the Prizm is going to be the registry card. It's also has the bonus of being both a "base" AND a "refractor", similar to 2001 and 2002 Topps Chrome. The Select Field Level is never going to catch it as a "need to have card". Obviously I don't know the future, but I feel pretty confident there.

This x100.

It is the Brady TC, LeBron TC, Trout Update, Giannis Prizm, etc.....

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Yes. People need to remember that the Prizm is going to be the registry card. It's also has the bonus of being both a "base" AND a "refractor", similar to 2001 and 2002 Topps Chrome. The Select Field Level is never going to catch it as a "need to have card". Obviously I don't know the future, but I feel pretty confident there.

I agree with this, but I would also rather have a 2003 Bowman Chrome LeBron Refractor /300 PSA 8 or higher over a 2003 Topps Chrome LeBron PSA 8 or higher....and I might take it over a 2003 Topps Chrome Refractor PSA 8 or higher (equiv grade of course).

Not apples to apples, but what do yah do.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Yes. People need to remember that the Prizm is going to be the registry card. It's also has the bonus of being both a "base" AND a "refractor", similar to 2001 and 2002 Topps Chrome. The Select Field Level is never going to catch it as a "need to have card". Obviously I don't know the future, but I feel pretty confident there.

This brings up a good point and I am curious to get others opinion. With all the new money coming into the industry, do people think the registry will continue to be as important. I know I for one could care less about it.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

This brings up a good point and I am curious to get others opinion. With all the new money coming into the industry, do people think the registry will continue to be as important. I know I for one could care less about it.

To me, its more than the registry, it is the commodity card that everyone wants for their collection. Its like having the "right" rookie card of everyone. Always be easy to move/value and will generally just keep ticking up.

People complain about selling trouts or what not early, I regret not buying every US175, every Brady Chrome, every TC LeBron for $100-$150 just a few years ago. These young guys are starting higher but will trend higher as the market matures. They are the ones that will also stay up if the market turns.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

To me, its more than the registry, it is the commodity card that everyone wants for their collection. Its like having the "right" rookie card of everyone. Always be easy to move/value and will generally just keep ticking up.

People complain about selling trouts or what not early, I regret not buying every US175, every Brady Chrome, every TC LeBron for $100-$150 just a few years ago. These young guys are starting higher but will trend higher as the market matures. They are the ones that will also stay up if the market turns.

That does make a lot of sense to me. When looking at Trout though, was there a time when the base US 175 and Bowman Sterling Refractor we’re close in value? I think those commodity cards will always not only have a market, but in a way set the market. I just wonder if some of the lower print run cards might see greater gains despite less of a demand/market. I find the card market extremely fascinating.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

That does make a lot of sense to me. When looking at Trout though, was there a time when the base US 175 and Bowman Sterling Refractor we’re close in value? I think those commodity cards will always not only have a market, but in a way set the market. I just wonder if some of the lower print run cards might see greater gains despite less of a demand/market. I find the card market extremely fascinating.

It depends who buys them. I think they can spike but they don't always maintain. Trout has been clockwork, up 30-50% then falls back 15-20% in offseason then up again, then falls back, then up, then back......

Look at LeBron TC this year. He was $1400 before the season, sure Kobe effect from that horrible tragedy, but they are $4k now. A few years ago they were both $800ish. Do you think that Trout won't get there? Might not be this year or next year, but when people come in the market that is the card they are gonna want. The silver mahomes is the same thing. It is the barometer. Hell other prizm may not move as much but that's how his market will be judged.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

It depends who buys them. I think they can spike but they don't always maintain. Trout has been clockwork, up 30-50% then falls back 15-20% in offseason then up again, then falls back, then up, then back......

Look at LeBron TC this year. He was $1400 before the season, sure Kobe effect from that horrible tragedy, but they are $4k now. A few years ago they were both $800ish. Do you think that Trout won't get there? Might not be this year or next year, but when people come in the market that is the card they are gonna want. The silver mahomes is the same thing. It is the barometer. Hell other prizm may not move as much but that's how his market will be judged.

While every player has a commodity card, they also have cards that sell for much more. Commodity cards are steadier and safer no doubt.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

While every player has a commodity card, they also have cards that sell for much more. Commodity cards are steadier and safer no doubt.

100%.

[ALBASKETBALL]

How do all the wave color and Parallel Prizm cards hold up in value on football cards? Would you stick to buying silvers prizms over a disco or colored wave?

[arod305]

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

How do all the wave color and Parallel Prizm cards hold up in value on football cards? Would you stick to buying silvers prizms over a disco or colored wave?

Silvers.. unless you can get a red or gold

[kcroyalsfan8515]

you guys have silvers without the dimple? even some psa 10s can have them.

[HBMC]

PSA 10 Mahomes Elite Base Rookie/499 snagged $580

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383417226345?ul_noapp=true

Granted it was a Probstein auction, but this card is going to to go up IMO. It is only Pop 19 of 36 total graded.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

How do all the wave color and Parallel Prizm cards hold up in value on football cards? Would you stick to buying silvers prizms over a disco or colored wave?

Silvers.

[Tommy1380]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Yes. People need to remember that the Prizm is going to be the registry card. It's also has the bonus of being both a "base" AND a "refractor", similar to 2001 and 2002 Topps Chrome. The Select Field Level is never going to catch it as a "need to have card". Obviously I don't know the future, but I feel pretty confident there.

Agree that Field Level Silver may never be a “need to have card” but that doesn’t mean the Field Level Silver wont be worth more down the road. Brady’s Bowman Chrome is his “need to have card” for the common sports card collector, but it will never be close to the value of a comparable grade Leaf Limited /350.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by Tommy1380

Agree that Field Level Silver may never be a “need to have card” but that doesn’t mean the Field Level Silver wont be worth more down the road. Brady’s Bowman Chrome is his “need to have card” for the common sports card collector, but it will never be close to the value of a comparable grade Leaf Limited /350.

I don't think that's a good comparison at all, but we'll just have to wait and see. Select is a nice product, but it's not NT/Contenders/Prizm/Optic. NT is the big ticket, Contenders is THE Auto, Prizm is the Chrome and Color, Optic is the Chrome and Color with on card autos. Select's biggest contribution is being the XRC product. Sure, one day things could be different, but I'd bet against it happening any time soon.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I don't think that's a good comparison at all, but we'll just have to wait and see. Select is a nice product, but it's not NT/Contenders/Prizm/Optic. NT is the big ticket, Contenders is THE Auto, Prizm is the Chrome and Color, Optic is the Chrome and Color with on card autos. Select's biggest contribution is being the XRC product. Sure, one day things could be different, but I'd bet against it happening any time soon.

This definitely put the rarity in perspective for me - 2018 Select Basketball

Tier Parallel Estimated Print Run
Concourse Base 14250
Concourse Tri-Color 860
Concourse Silver 820
Concourse Scope 370
Premier Base 4320
Premier Silver 660
Premier Tri-Color 410
Premier Scope 240
Courtside Base 860
Courtside Silver 30

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

This definitely put the rarity in perspective for me - 2018 Select Basketball

Tier Parallel Estimated Print Run
Concourse Base 14250
Concourse Tri-Color 860
Concourse Silver 820
Concourse Scope 370
Premier Base 4320
Premier Silver 660
Premier Tri-Color 410
Premier Scope 240
Courtside Base 860
Courtside Silver 30

I don't think that's close to the Football numbers. That would make the highest level Silver (Field Level in FB) near the same PR as the Tie Dye, not a chance, not even close to football numbers IMHO.

[pablocjunior]

Love this green insert (POP 9), not as valuable as the silvers, but you can’t go wrong with a Mahomes Prizm!


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[SleeperCards]

Nice Green, a LOT of the Mahomes Green parallels from those sets (Illumination, Introductions, and Impact) are OC, rare to see a nice one.

[pablocjunior]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Nice Green, a LOT of the Mahomes Green parallels from those sets (Illumination, Introductions, and Impact) are OC, rare to see a nice one.

Yes, I’ve noticed that too. Thanks!


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