2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

There is no doubt that both left and right wing have their PR teams working round the clock to minimize/maximize the damage done from media reports, stories, investigations etc. But the issue here is that the media only feeds us the information they want to; not the truth. And theres a reason 98% of political donations end up in Dems hands from this institution.

There was a time when information was presented, with a slant depending where it came from. Today, the information is being supressed and were being told what a class of people think we should know.

Thats terrible.

Easy to blame the media. Really though the media feed us the information we want to consume...just like any other business. The real blame lies with those that continue to watch and regurgitate. It is simple supply and demand.

[mattglet]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Could this be one of the reasons they're seeing people flee, because they're ran so well?
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...most-debt.html

It's almost like that's a list of the most populated states. Weird.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by thenwhatjk

Unlike Astros19 who definitely would be singing the exact same tune in the exact same key at the exact same tempo with the exact same instrumentation if it were trump jr or hunter

Uh, pretty sure Trump's kids have been in the news, and if they're doing deceitful or illegal things they should be.
But please, show me where I've defended Trump's kids any time in the last 4 years.
Betcha can't.

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[Astros19]

Originally Posted by mattglet

It's almost like that's a list of the most populated states. Weird.

No not almost, it says so right in the article. You know, the article I posted a link to.
Now go look and see which of those most populated states have the highest state taxes.

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[Jedi1823]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Well, yeah. That's the policy of the FBI. They went into covert mode during the election. That's how they do things. The FBI isn't supposed to influence elections by openly conducting investigations during an election into a family member of a candidate. It's not that they weren't investigating, it's that they made a concerted effort to keep it from the public, as they should.



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Yep, the investigation into Hillary in 2016 only got out thanks to Chafetz leaking Comey's letter. At that same time, Trump was under FBI investigation and it wasn't released.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Easy to blame the media. Really though the media feed us the information we want to consume...just like any other business. The real blame lies with those that continue to watch and regurgitate. It is simple supply and demand.

Yep. We have too many people that live and die from what the media tells them. It's a sad state of affairs we are in.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Easy to blame the media. Really though the media feed us the information we want to consume...just like any other business. The real blame lies with those that continue to watch and regurgitate. It is simple supply and demand.

So when NBC splices the audio of a 911 call to make the caller sound racist, is that information "we" want to consume?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Easy to blame the media. Really though the media feed us the information we want to consume...just like any other business. The real blame lies with those that continue to watch and regurgitate. It is simple supply and demand.

But wasnt there nobility from journalists to break stories that informed the public? Isnt that valuable?

The son of the Democratic party nominee for president under investigation for money laundering w/ China while Dad was Vice President. Seems like a big story that journalists would want to crack on their network yes?

Yes, I can get a lot of info from Daily Wire, Free Bacon, Real Clear etc, but I think its stupid that I cannot get a real story from NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, NPR, Reuters etc anymore because of what theyve become. I only hear about thongs that damage Rs and nothing more.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

There is no doubt that both left and right wing have their PR teams working round the clock to minimize/maximize the damage done from media reports, stories, investigations etc. But the issue here is that the media only feeds us the information they want to; not the truth. And theres a reason 98% of political donations end up in Dems hands from this institution.



There was a time when information was presented, with a slant depending where it came from. Today, the information is being supressed and were being told what a class of people think we should know.



Thats terrible.

You want underregulated capitalism? You got it.

Be careful what you wish for.

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[HeadstrongRSS]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I don't think comparing this and the Hillary emails is a fair comparison. What if the FBI does find more as they are investigating, regardless of the timing if there was something criminal going on and Joe Biden was tied to it, it's absolutely wrong that it was ignored.

Pardon me while I give this absolutely zero f**ks as the country is right in the middle of an attemped coup to subvert the will of the people, invalidate votes, and have electors flip the outcome while repugnant human beings urge it on - so long as they win in the end.

[HeadstrongRSS]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

But wasnt there nobility from journalists to break stories that informed the public? Isnt that valuable?

The son of the Democratic party nominee for president under investigation for money laundering w/ China while Dad was Vice President. Seems like a big story that journalists would want to crack on their network yes?

Yes, I can get a lot of info from Daily Wire, Free Bacon, Real Clear etc, but I think its stupid that I cannot get a real story from NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, NPR, Reuters etc anymore because of what theyve become. I only hear about thongs that damage Rs and nothing more.

Full on confirmation bias mode right here. Shockingly, you only consider outlets that share your world view as valid, and "look what all the others have become". Nonsense.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by HeadstrongRSS

Full on confirmation bias mode right here. Shockingly, you only consider outlets that share your world view as valid, and "look what all the others have become". Nonsense.

No, thats my point. The ones I said I go to like DW, RC and FB only give me the things that hurt Ds. But these are clearly labeled ad right wing outlets.

At the very least, the public should know AP, CBS, NBC, ABC, Reuters etc are their.counterpart, left wing outlets.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by HeadstrongRSS

Pardon me while I give this absolutely zero f**ks as the country is right in the middle of an attemped coup to subvert the will of the people, invalidate votes, and have electors flip the outcome while repugnant human beings urge it on - so long as they win in the end.

Lol. A bit overdramatic, no?

Those halfwit clowns couldn't execute a coup if it was served to them on a graham cracker crust and covered in cream cheese. Relax.

SCOTUS gave them the back of its hand already, legislatures and courts across the country are laughing harder than we are (and that's pretty hard) these days, and all this nonsensical talk of the Insurrection Act being invoked is even more hilarious than what's taken place so far.

Sit back and enjoy the show, my friend. There's nothing left to do now but smile as those bucketheads continue to bury themselves deeper in the muck.

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[NeedChapmans]

And u have proven the point w/ the graph. Reuters, AP, NPR etc are no where close to the middle and that is the con they continue to get away with

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by HeadstrongRSS

Pardon me while I give this absolutely zero f**ks as the country is right in the middle of an attemped coup to subvert the will of the people, invalidate votes, and have electors flip the outcome while repugnant human beings urge it on - so long as they win in the end.

Sure let your hate for someone get in the way of an investigation in possible criminal activity and the medias complete blowing it off when all the while more information is coming out. 74 million people voted for the guy that you hate but who cares what they think. You just hate them as much as you do Trump.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Lol. A bit overdramatic, no?

Those halfwit clowns couldn't execute a coup if it was served to them on a graham cracker crust and covered in cream cheese. Relax.

SCOTUS gave them the back of its hand already, legislatures and courts across the country are laughing harder than we are (and that's pretty hard) these days, and all this nonsensical talk of the Insurrection Act being invoked is even more hilarious than what's taken place so far.

Sit back and enjoy the show, my friend. There's nothing left to do now but smile as those bucketheads continue to bury themselves deeper in the muck.

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So I suppose the 17 states that are joining the suit to ensure integrity of the election are just trying to destroy democracy and are part of the coup that you say can't be done anyways.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

So I suppose the 17 states that are joining the suit to ensure integrity of the election are just trying to destroy democracy and are part of the coup that you say can't be done anyways.

I'd leave out the "destroy democracy" part, but other than that...yes.

Seventeen more states are going to feel the back of SCOTUS' hand across their faces. It's that simple.

Any schmuck can file a lawsuit, haha. All you gotta do is pay the filing fee and fill out a form or two. The fact that a suit has been filed means absolutely nothing in terms of its merit or likelihood of success.

Do you seriously believe any of this has even the tiniest chance of success? Really?

It's over. It's been over. Anybody that tells you different is lying to you. For real.

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[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

The woke uproar fizzled out real quick. Never forget: stay outraged.

Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as “racists.”

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

I'd leave out the "destroy democracy" part, but other than that...yes.

Seventeen more states are going to feel the back of SCOTUS' hand across their faces. It's that simple.

Any schmuck can file a lawsuit, haha. All you gotta do is pay the filing fee and fill out a form or two. The fact that a suit has been filed means absolutely nothing in terms of its merit or likelihood of success.

Do you seriously believe any of this has even the tiniest chance of success? Really?

It's over. It's been over. Anybody that tells you different is lying to you. For real.

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I've never said that there is a chance of anything being changed. I do think there is some merit to the states saying that unconstitutional changes were made in PA. I am one that says we need to make sure the election was done correctly for future, my end game is not to get results flipped to President Trump.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I've never said that there is a chance of anything being changed. I do think there is some merit to the states saying that unconstitutional changes were made in PA. I am one that says we need to make sure the election was done correctly for future, my end game is not to get results flipped to President Trump.

Well there you go.

I suspect some form of election reform may actually come of all this, though I doubt the courts will make it so. But it won't happen on Trump's watch and it won't be republicans making it happen, at least not for the next couple of years.

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[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I've never said that there is a chance of anything being changed. I do think there is some merit to the states saying that unconstitutional changes were made in PA. I am one that says we need to make sure the election was done correctly for future, my end game is not to get results flipped to President Trump.

The thing in PA is odd. I'm not positive, as I haven't read everything about it all, but my understanding of the courts' rulings (all of them haha) on the matter is that they had little to do with the legality of the election laws and more to do with the lack of an acceptable remedy. In other words, the courts said nothing that was done is worth invalidating millions of votes, but they never said everything was done correctly.

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[HeadstrongRSS]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Sure let your hate for someone get in the way of an investigation in possible criminal activity and the medias complete blowing it off when all the while more information is coming out. 74 million people voted for the guy that you hate but who cares what they think. You just hate them as much as you do Trump.

How do we know the 74 million votes are real? I think we could just as easily turn this circus around.

This isnt about HUNTER Biden. Im glad the media did not permit the discussion to be around the adult son of the nominee. Unless you all forget, hes not on the ballot or part of the administration. Biden, like all presidents until 45, doesn't add his family that has zero political experience to important govt roles - only authoritarian dictators do that.

And make no doubt, I do hate die hard trumpies. No question. I dont find them to be redeemable people. For example, I get glee at watching videos of antifa-proud boys confrontation simply to watch MAGA get punched in the face. Even tho I hate antifa, I dont get that same smile. But don't mistake that with Trump voters. A huge segment there have a variety of reasons for voting republican w/o deep throating 45. I have no hate for those. If you're just conservative fiscally or are an abortion issue voter, we're cool. If you attend rally, chant lock her up, ect....yep, I hate you.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Well there you go.

I suspect some form of election reform may actually come of all this, though I doubt the courts will make it so. But it won't happen on Trump's watch and it won't be republicans making it happen, at least not for the next couple of years.

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The only part that I don't understand is Republicans not pushing for it. Seems they are the ones that are looking into all of this because according to Democrats and Trump haters it's all about him who cares if PA went against their constitution, etc.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by HeadstrongRSS

How do we know the 74 million votes are real? I think we could just as easily turn this circus around.



This isnt about HUNTER Biden. Im glad the media did not permit the discussion to be around the adult son of the nominee. Unless you all forget, hes not on the ballot or part of the administration. Biden, like all presidents until 45, doesn't add his family that has zero political experience to important govt roles - only authoritarian dictators do that.



And make no doubt, I do hate die hard trumpies. No question. I dont find them to be redeemable people. For example, I get glee at watching videos of antifa-proud boys confrontation simply to watch MAGA get punched in the face. Even tho I hate antifa, I dont get that same smile. But don't mistake that with Trump voters. A huge segment there have a variety of reasons for voting republican w/o deep throating 45. I have no hate for those. If you're just conservative fiscally or are an abortion issue voter, we're cool. If you attend rally, chant lock her up, ect....yep, I hate you.

This made me laugh...in a good way. Not pulling punches today, eh?

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[jdandns]

Well, bless their hearts!!!