2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 2669

TheHeel · 12-09-2020, 11:22 AM

Another "source" goes down.

More than a month after the election, YouTube to remove misleading fraud claims

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...claims-rcna195

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HeadstrongRSS

I think there is a problem with religious exemptions. Meaning, if a lockdown occurs, I'm sorry - but belief in some man in the sky doesn't cut it when actions are taken that endanger the public. And republican governments can get overreaching in Christian policies like making abortion impossible for those that need it, defending planned parenthood, etc. Messing with other people's lives by making laws based on the "word of god" is quite simply, wrong.

Dripping w/ condescension.

Your belief that people who have faith are "less than" as it relates to a lockdown hierarchy is insulting. And it's exactly why creating religious exemptions is crucial for state and federal driven policy; so people like you do not exert control over others.

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

Another "source" goes down.

More than a month after the election, YouTube to remove misleading fraud claims

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...claims-rcna195

This is quite awful and we continue to become China lite with each passing day.

Very sad news here.

TheHeel · 12-09-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

This is quite awful and we continue to become China lite with each passing day.

Very sad news here.

What is even worse and even more sad is that this kind of rhetoric is dangerous because so many people believe the nonsense. Good thing this private company is blocking the garbage.

rcmb3220 · 12-09-2020, 11:34 AM

George Conway is the father of Clark from The Office. Probably.

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

What is even worse and even more sad is that this kind of rhetoric is dangerous because so many people believe the nonsense. Good thing this private company is blocking the garbage.

OK.

Let me know when YouTube decides to take down all videos relating to Russian collusion and the election of 2016. "This kind of rhetoric is dangerous because so many people believe this nonsense"

Ohh wait; this doesn't apply to the Russian collusion narrative? Huh. Almost as if it has nothing to do w/ rhetoric and has everything to do with control.

Astros19 · 12-09-2020, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

What is even worse and even more sad is that this kind of rhetoric is dangerous because so many people believe the nonsense. Good thing this private company is blocking the garbage.

For all of you have thrown the word around numerous times, now is when the word nazi should enter the conversation.

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rcmb3220 · 12-09-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

What is even worse and even more sad is that this kind of rhetoric is dangerous because so many people believe the nonsense. Good thing this private company is blocking the garbage.

I support YouTube’s right to free speech, but I oppose any attempt at nationalizing them.

jdandns · 12-09-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Dripping w/ condescension.

Your belief that people who have faith are "less than" as it relates to a lockdown hierarchy is insulting. And it's exactly why creating religious exemptions is crucial for state and federal driven policy; so people like you do not exert control over others.

People who are "exerting control" over others are primarily comprised of those who won't, for instance, take medicine or exercise simple precautions that would make them less infectious to others during a widespread outbreak of disease. These contrarian instructions are made at the behest of someone (and there are a whole lot of these "someones") known only to them, making the veracity and wisdom of what they have been told difficult to verify. It is the government's responsibly these very people do not wield such undue influence, and it shall continue to.

JustRachel · 12-09-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Dripping w/ condescension.

Your belief that people who have faith are "less than" as it relates to a lockdown hierarchy is insulting. And it's exactly why creating religious exemptions is crucial for state and federal driven policy; so people like you do not exert control over others.

This is about as backward as it gets.

People that have faith being "less than" isn't the issue. The issue is those people believing they are "more than" and the rules don't apply.

Religious exemptions are nonsensical. They allow believers to ignore regulations that others must follow. Believers have been thrusting that nonsense into politics for as long as this country has existed, and it needs to stop. And you seriously have the nerve to suggest non-believers are exerting control over others? Paaaaa- LEASE!

Edit to Add:. I'm all for religious freedom. People are free (as they should be) to think, believe, and practice their religion however they see fit...within the boundaries of our laws. What I am talking about in the above post is exemptions, not religion in general. I do not think religion is entitled to special treatment.

TheHeel · 12-09-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

OK.

Let me know when YouTube decides to take down all videos relating to Russian collusion and the election of 2016. "This kind of rhetoric is dangerous because so many people believe this nonsense"

Ohh wait; this doesn't apply to the Russian collusion narrative? Huh.

Of course take down any false information pertaining to Trump and Russia.

Unfortunately, for all of us, the Republican-led Senate found that Russia wanted Trump and did as much as they could to sway uninformed voters.

But, yes, I hope YouTube takes down any false information Trump and Russia.

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

Of course take down any false information pertaining to Trump and Russia.

Unfortunately, for all of us, the Republican-led Senate found that Russia wanted Trump and did as much as they could to sway uninformed voters.

But, yes, I hope YouTube takes down any false information Trump and Russia.

LOL, go type in Russia hacked election into YouTube, and when you spend the rest of your life watching 1/1000th of the videos, you can feel safe knowing that YouTube is only leaving up the "true" information and taking down the "false" information.

Continue to cheer on speech suppression and before you know it, your voice will no longer be heard.

TheHeel · 12-09-2020, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

For all of you have thrown the word around numerous times, now is when the word nazi should enter the conversation.

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Really? A private company in a capitalistic society taking down false information created to divide the United States even more is....Nazism?

Nazis didn't want certain people to have rights and freedoms.....you know, like many of Trump's policies. Remember, he surrounds himself with only the best people like Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka.

Right.

January 20, 2020 cannot come soon enough.

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

Really? A private company in a capitalistic society taking down false information created to divide the United States even more is....Nazism?

Nazis didn't want certain people to have rights and freedoms.....you know, like many of Trump's policies. Remember, he surrounds himself with only the best people like Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka.

Right.

January 20, 2020 cannot come soon enough.

100% false. Not a single Trump policy has done this and you look like a fool for suggesting it.

rcmb3220 · 12-09-2020, 11:44 AM

What about a private company taking down true information about card alteration?

jdandns · 12-09-2020, 11:45 AM

The key is only to watch music videos and concerts from one's youth on Youtube, and nothing else.
It's a beautiful thing, used that way, and look, ma, no conspiracy theories!

TheHeel · 12-09-2020, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

100% false. Not a single Trump policy has done this and you look like a fool for suggesting it.

Ask LGBTQ+ military members.

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

Ask LGBTQ+ military members.

I don't have to ask them anything. Post the policy, or concede you made up the very same conspiracy theory you pretend to applaud YouTube for taking down.

wood minis · 12-09-2020, 11:51 AM

The idea of a vaccine mandate is troubling to me. If you have ever met someone whose child was injured because of a vaccine, you might feel differently. I mean the National Vaccine Injury Compensation program has paid out over 4 billion in compensation, and that doesn't include anyone who has been denied or anyone that doesn't have the litigation inclination.

If you have a problem with it being called religious exemption, then lets call it a conscientious or philosophical objection.

What State governments are doing removing 'religious' exemption has caused families to become refugees of the States that are imposing them...uprooting families who, for their own unique and specific reasons, choose medical freedom when it comes to what is injected into their children's bodies.

A large percentage of the population is in favor of taking the ever expanding list of vaccines. So as far as herd immunity, why the mandate?

TheHeel · 12-09-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I don't have to ask them anything. Post the policy, or concede you made up the very same conspiracy theory you pretend to applaud YouTube for taking down.

Here ya go.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...effect-n993826

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

Here ya go.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...effect-n993826

Like I said, conspiracy theory.

What right was stripped?

JustRachel · 12-09-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

100% false. Not a single Trump policy has done this and you look like a fool for suggesting it.

Lol.

Another disaster of a comment.

Trump policies have attempted to curtail the rights of several minority groups. LGBTQ comes to mind.

https://transequality.org/the-discri...administration

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Lol.

Another disaster of a comment.

Trump policies have attempted to curtail the rights of several minority groups. LGBTQ comes to mind.

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Normally I don't respond to you because I don't want you to feel attacked but in this instance, I'm going to make an exception.

No such policy exists. Perhaps you're confusing it with creating a special set of rights for this group; but not a single freedom or right has been stripped in this administration. Not a single one.

NeedChapmans · 12-09-2020, 12:03 PM

It's funny. One poster on here is saying that going to church infringes on public safety so the right to assemble should be stripped.

I've got another poster in here cheering the removal of speech from YouTube because it's ideas he doesn't like.

These are actual, real rights. And yet, the argument is that somehow, Trump is stripping rights by not allowing some people to join the military. Do you people hear yourselves? Do you understand what it is you are saying and what it is you are trying to convey? Shutting people up and locking them inside is totally OK, but how dare you stop a transgender person from joining the military!!!!

Dear Lord, I need strength today. All you can provide please.

DegaBama · 12-09-2020, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It's funny. One poster on here is saying that going to church infringes on public safety so the right to assemble should be stripped.

I've got another poster in here cheering the removal of speech from YouTube because it's ideas he doesn't like.

These are actual, real rights. And yet, the argument is that somehow, Trump is stripping rights by not allowing some people to join the military. Do you people hear yourselves? Do you understand what it is you are saying and what it is you are trying to convey? Shutting people up and locking them inside is totally OK, but how dare you stop a transgender person from joining the military!!!!

Dear Lord, I need strength today. All you can provide please.

What's a "Lord"?

Trump is also a fascist, somehow. How people can say he strips away rights as he spent months pushing people to open up, while Democratic policies pushed for control, is laughable.

But hey, your son who is hitting puberty can go into a girls locker room if he just says he is a girl!

https://www.wxyz.com/news/plymouth-c...der%20identity

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12-09-2020, 11:22 AM	#66701
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jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 23,346	The key is only to watch music videos and concerts from one's youth on Youtube, and nothing else. It's a beautiful thing, used that way, and look, ma, no conspiracy theories! __________________ AliceNArtieSellinApplesInArkansas

12-09-2020, 11:51 AM	#66719
wood minis Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 4,093	The idea of a vaccine mandate is troubling to me. If you have ever met someone whose child was injured because of a vaccine, you might feel differently. I mean the National Vaccine Injury Compensation program has paid out over 4 billion in compensation, and that doesn't include anyone who has been denied or anyone that doesn't have the litigation inclination. If you have a problem with it being called religious exemption, then lets call it a conscientious or philosophical objection. What State governments are doing removing 'religious' exemption has caused families to become refugees of the States that are imposing them...uprooting families who, for their own unique and specific reasons, choose medical freedom when it comes to what is injected into their children's bodies. A large percentage of the population is in favor of taking the ever expanding list of vaccines. So as far as herd immunity, why the mandate? __________________ Allen & Ginter wood mini collector

12-09-2020, 12:03 PM	#66724
NeedChapmans Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 31,800 ProspectCincy NeedChapmans	It's funny. One poster on here is saying that going to church infringes on public safety so the right to assemble should be stripped. I've got another poster in here cheering the removal of speech from YouTube because it's ideas he doesn't like. These are actual, real rights. And yet, the argument is that somehow, Trump is stripping rights by not allowing some people to join the military. Do you people hear yourselves? Do you understand what it is you are saying and what it is you are trying to convey? Shutting people up and locking them inside is totally OK, but how dare you stop a transgender person from joining the military!!!! Dear Lord, I need strength today. All you can provide please. __________________ It is my legal right to freely profit from the notoriety of people who are actively suffering and possibly even dying and for a few hundred dollars I will gladly seek to maximize those profits.

12-09-2020, 11:34 AM	#66705
rcmb3220 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 4,136	George Conway is the father of Clark from The Office. Probably.

12-09-2020, 11:44 AM	#66715
rcmb3220 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 4,136	What about a private company taking down true information about card alteration?