2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by discostu

This is the insanity of Q in a nutshell.



Someone plants a seed with completely benign information.



The larpers plant that seed into their imaginative and conspiratorial brains and poof...Deep State. Military takeover. Pizza. Trump wins. Pedophilia. Hugo Chavez. Storm.

4.2.11 Georgia. Savantla is coming.

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[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

4.2.11 Georgia. Savantla is coming.

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And a IP Check on your account.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

And a IP Check on your account.

I'm in Germany at a pizza shop full of Satanic servers.

Where are you?

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[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

I'm in Germany at a pizza shop full of Satanic servers.

Where are you?

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We will see.

[DegaBama]

Enough political talk, Biden won, let's accept it and move on.

COVID is still here. I find this so fascinating. Top 6 states with COVID cases, 3 with harsh lockdowns and 3 with virtually zero.

California, worst amount of tested cases.
New York, about to be at their worse amount of tested cases.
Illinois, just peaked with their worst amount of tested cases.
Florida, trending to hit their worst amount of tested cases.
Georgia, worst amount of tested cases.
Texas, worst amount of tested cases.

What does this tell us? Absolutely nothing. You lock down, doesn't matter. You open up, doesn't matter. Have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter. Don't have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Enough political talk, Biden won, let's accept it and move on.

COVID is still here. I find this so fascinating. Top 6 states with COVID cases, 3 with harsh lockdowns and 3 with virtually zero.

California, worst amount of tested cases.
New York, about to be at their worse amount of tested cases.
Illinois, just peaked with their worst amount of tested cases.
Florida, trending to hit their worst amount of tested cases.
Georgia, worst amount of tested cases.
Texas, worst amount of tested cases.

What does this tell us? Absolutely nothing. You lock down, doesn't matter. You open up, doesn't matter. Have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter. Don't have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter.

If only there was a better way to look at the data instead of just raw numbers.

You know, something like testing positivity rate percentages. That would be great information, I wonder why no one is thinking of that.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Enough political talk, Biden won, let's accept it and move on.

COVID is still here. I find this so fascinating. Top 6 states with COVID cases, 3 with harsh lockdowns and 3 with virtually zero.

California, worst amount of tested cases.
New York, about to be at their worse amount of tested cases.
Illinois, just peaked with their worst amount of tested cases.
Florida, trending to hit their worst amount of tested cases.
Georgia, worst amount of tested cases.
Texas, worst amount of tested cases.

What does this tell us? Absolutely nothing. You lock down, doesn't matter. You open up, doesn't matter. Have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter. Don't have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter.

But that’s good because herd immunity.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Enough political talk, Biden won, let's accept it and move on.



COVID is still here. I find this so fascinating. Top 6 states with COVID cases, 3 with harsh lockdowns and 3 with virtually zero.



California, worst amount of tested cases.

New York, about to be at their worse amount of tested cases.

Illinois, just peaked with their worst amount of tested cases.

Florida, trending to hit their worst amount of tested cases.

Georgia, worst amount of tested cases.

Texas, worst amount of tested cases.



What does this tell us? Absolutely nothing. You lock down, doesn't matter. You open up, doesn't matter. Have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter. Don't have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter.

Odd that you'd choose that stat.

Per capita, here are your worst six states as of Dec 3. It's a bit different than your list, since your list is basically just a list of populous states.



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[chezball]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Enough political talk, Biden won, let's accept it and move on.

COVID is still here. I find this so fascinating. Top 6 states with COVID cases, 3 with harsh lockdowns and 3 with virtually zero.

California, worst amount of tested cases.
New York, about to be at their worse amount of tested cases.
Illinois, just peaked with their worst amount of tested cases.
Florida, trending to hit their worst amount of tested cases.
Georgia, worst amount of tested cases.
Texas, worst amount of tested cases.

What does this tell us? Absolutely nothing. You lock down, doesn't matter. You open up, doesn't matter. Have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter. Don't have a hard mask mandate, doesn't matter.

The Danish study shows that it doesn't matter if you wear a face diaper or not.

[jdandns]

Highlights from President Trump's super spreader event in Georgia last night.

Opens up with some red meat for the base:

"Let me begin by wishing you all a very Merry Christmas. Remember the word? Remember? We started five years ago, and I said, "You're gonna be saying 'Christmas' again." We say it proudly again. Although they'll, they'll be trying to take that word again out of the vocabulary. We're not gonna let 'em do that."

To the President's credit he gives the Georgia run-off Republican candidates a couple of minutes out of his speech BEFORE he launches in to his real reason for being there, the one-hour and forty minute construction of a most impressive monument to the art of sore losing.

"We're gathered here tonight to ensure -- A very important word, ensure. Because these are two great, great people, that I know so well, and respected by everybody in Washington and beyond. That David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler win the most important congressional runoff probably in American history. I really believe that. I think it's an American -- There's never been a time like this where you have two at one time. At least you have two beauties. And you know what, you also have two beauties running against him, but beauty in a different way. They're two beauties. But there's never been, uh, a case where a state has had this prominence on Senate races, 'cause they're never together. And, uh, this is something that's very important, and you have to get out, you have to vote, you have to make sure you have every vote counted. Everyone has to count. And you gotta make sure they don't throw away any ballots. You gotta make sure that when they collect the ballots and they start bragging about how many ballots they already have, you gotta make sure your Secretary of State knows what the hell he's doing. And you gotta make sure your Governor gets a lot tougher than he's been. He's gotta get a lot tougher. Because at stake in this election is control of the U.S. Senate, and that really means control of this country. The voters of Georgia will determine which party runs every committee, writes every pieces of legislation, controls every single taxpayer dollar. Very simply, you will decide whether your children will grow up in a socialist country or whether they will grow up in a free country. And I will you this, uh, socialist is just the beginning for these people. These people wanna go further than socialism. They wanna go into a communistic form of government."

To the heart of the matter:

"But, listen to this. These are the facts, and each fact is like, irrefutable, and it, it means win. President Trump receives [inaudible] one of the most brilliant political people. President Trump received more votes than any previous incumbent president in history, and we lost, and we lost. So we receive more votes than anybody in history, any incumbent in history, and we lost supposedly."

Go onnnnnn:

"I won them all by a lot. And I have to say, if I lost, I'd be a very gracious loser. If I lost, I would say, "I lost." And I'd go to Florida and I'd take it easy, and I'd go around, and I'd say, "I did a good job." But you can't ever accept when they steal and rig and rob. Can't accept. [Crosstalk] Well, the Democrats did try to steal the presidency."

They're getting a little restless, Donnie. Reel 'em back in:

"Oh, they won, I don't think so. Okay, I don't think so. We knew that a long time ago. They wanna take away your jobs, take away your borders, take away your freedom, take away your religion. And they even wanna take away your beautiful Christmas that we just got back. I have to be very careful, you know when I sort of imitate that, right?"

Show me the money!!!

"I mean, it's really, uh -- It's very, uh -- Well, of course, I just raised $250 million, I should say. I didn't raise it, it just came. I said, "How're we doing on that front?" you know, because we didn't get great publicity. Boy, were they -- They were so happy, these guys. Don't -- You might not be happy in a few weeks, you know, you might not. No, they were so happy. I said, "How's fundraising going?" They said, "Sir, uh, about $250 million." I said, "$250 million what?" Dollars. How the hell did that happen? Because people believe in what we're doing, that's why."

On locally grown produce:

"Who does cucumbers around here? Because I like cucumbers. I'm the only one. I like cucumbers."

Senators Loeffler and Perdue, are called to the stage by Trump. In a 100 minute+ plus rally, each is allowed exactly 30 seconds to praise Trump, before the President continues the discredited litany of false assertions regarding his own election loss, including watching along with the audiences a poorly produced OANN video that was somewhat jarring to see airing on FoxNews, where I viewed this rally. Fox actually is able to produce professional-looking polished propaganda, but they're on the outs with Trump currently. They know what they did.

"The next great victory for our movement begins right here on January 5th, and then we are going to win back the White House. We're gonna win it back. And we're gonna take back the House in 2022. And then in 2024 and hopefully, I won't have to be a candidate, we're gonna win back the White House again. A friend of mine said, "Oh, don't worry about it, sir. You're way up in the polls. You'll win in 2024." I said, "I don't wanna wait till 2024. I wanna go back three weeks."

Good luck with that.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by discostu

If only there was a better way to look at the data instead of just raw numbers.

You know, something like testing positivity rate percentages. That would be great information, I wonder why no one is thinking of that.

Deaths per capita is my favorite measure of policy effectiveness.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by chezball

The Danish study shows that it doesn't matter if you wear a face diaper or not.

So now you're getting your info from breakfast pastries?
Lemme guess? The meaning is derived from the random cinnamon swirls that aren't so random, provided one knows how to read them?

Oh, well, that's a better than getting stuff from "Q", plus you can enjoy the transmissions afterward with a nice cup of coffee.

Baby steps, my friend.
Together, we can conquer this terrible affliction!

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Highlights from President Trump's super spreader event in Georgia last night.

Opens up with some red meat for the base:

"Let me begin by wishing you all a very Merry Christmas. Remember the word? Remember? We started five years ago, and I said, "You're gonna be saying 'Christmas' again." We say it proudly again. Although they'll, they'll be trying to take that word again out of the vocabulary. We're not gonna let 'em do that."

To the President's credit he gives the Georgia run-off Republican candidates a couple of minutes out of his speech BEFORE he launches in to his real reason for being there, the one-hour and forty minute construction of a most impressive monument to the art of sore losing.

"We're gathered here tonight to ensure -- A very important word, ensure. Because these are two great, great people, that I know so well, and respected by everybody in Washington and beyond. That David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler win the most important congressional runoff probably in American history. I really believe that. I think it's an American -- There's never been a time like this where you have two at one time. At least you have two beauties. And you know what, you also have two beauties running against him, but beauty in a different way. They're two beauties. But there's never been, uh, a case where a state has had this prominence on Senate races, 'cause they're never together. And, uh, this is something that's very important, and you have to get out, you have to vote, you have to make sure you have every vote counted. Everyone has to count. And you gotta make sure they don't throw away any ballots. You gotta make sure that when they collect the ballots and they start bragging about how many ballots they already have, you gotta make sure your Secretary of State knows what the hell he's doing. And you gotta make sure your Governor gets a lot tougher than he's been. He's gotta get a lot tougher. Because at stake in this election is control of the U.S. Senate, and that really means control of this country. The voters of Georgia will determine which party runs every committee, writes every pieces of legislation, controls every single taxpayer dollar. Very simply, you will decide whether your children will grow up in a socialist country or whether they will grow up in a free country. And I will you this, uh, socialist is just the beginning for these people. These people wanna go further than socialism. They wanna go into a communistic form of government."

To the heart of the matter:

"But, listen to this. These are the facts, and each fact is like, irrefutable, and it, it means win. President Trump receives [inaudible] one of the most brilliant political people. President Trump received more votes than any previous incumbent president in history, and we lost, and we lost. So we receive more votes than anybody in history, any incumbent in history, and we lost supposedly."

Go onnnnnn:

"I won them all by a lot. And I have to say, if I lost, I'd be a very gracious loser. If I lost, I would say, "I lost." And I'd go to Florida and I'd take it easy, and I'd go around, and I'd say, "I did a good job." But you can't ever accept when they steal and rig and rob. Can't accept. [Crosstalk] Well, the Democrats did try to steal the presidency."

They're getting a little restless, Donnie. Reel 'em back in:

"Oh, they won, I don't think so. Okay, I don't think so. We knew that a long time ago. They wanna take away your jobs, take away your borders, take away your freedom, take away your religion. And they even wanna take away your beautiful Christmas that we just got back. I have to be very careful, you know when I sort of imitate that, right?"

Show me the money!!!

"I mean, it's really, uh -- It's very, uh -- Well, of course, I just raised $250 million, I should say. I didn't raise it, it just came. I said, "How're we doing on that front?" you know, because we didn't get great publicity. Boy, were they -- They were so happy, these guys. Don't -- You might not be happy in a few weeks, you know, you might not. No, they were so happy. I said, "How's fundraising going?" They said, "Sir, uh, about $250 million." I said, "$250 million what?" Dollars. How the hell did that happen? Because people believe in what we're doing, that's why."

On locally grown produce:

"Who does cucumbers around here? Because I like cucumbers. I'm the only one. I like cucumbers."

Senators Loeffler and Perdue, are called to the stage by Trump. In a 100 minute+ plus rally, each is allowed exactly 30 seconds to praise Trump, before the President continues the discredited litany of false assertions regarding his own election loss, including watching along with the audiences a poorly produced OANN video that was somewhat jarring to see airing on FoxNews, where I viewed this rally. Fox actually is able to produce professional-looking polished propaganda, but they're on the outs with Trump currently. They know what they did.

"The next great victory for our movement begins right here on January 5th, and then we are going to win back the White House. We're gonna win it back. And we're gonna take back the House in 2022. And then in 2024 and hopefully, I won't have to be a candidate, we're gonna win back the White House again. A friend of mine said, "Oh, don't worry about it, sir. You're way up in the polls. You'll win in 2024." I said, "I don't wanna wait till 2024. I wanna go back three weeks."

Good luck with that.

If Trump goes back in will you be one of the ones that help tear the country up? Amazing with all this going on I don't see Conservatives acting like animals all over the country. Well we know who does all the lloting and burning now. Look at it like this if Trump goes back in the looters will have a great Merry Christmas but there won't be anywhere to celebrate it. I guess you could always go to Pelosi's house and eat the $30 a gallon ice cream while vets and homeless people starve.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

If Trump goes back in will you be one of the ones that help tear the country up? Amazing with all this going on I don't see Conservatives acting like animals all over the country. Well we know who does all the lloting and burning now. Look at it like this if Trump goes back in the looters will have a great Merry Christmas but there won't be anywhere to celebrate it. I guess you could always go to Pelosi's house and eat the $30 a gallon ice cream while vets and homeless people starve.

It depends.
I just ordered a stylish black beanie cap from J.Crew, but it's on back-order.

[arek]

Originally Posted by chezball

The Danish study shows that it doesn't matter if you wear a face diaper or not.

Responses on the BMJ site shed light on the conclusions for mask effectiveness

From the BMJ
“The trial is inconclusive rather than negative, and it points to a likely benefit of mask wearing to the wearer—it did not examine the wider potential benefit of reduced spread of infection to others—and this even in a population where mask wearing isn’t mandatory and prevalence of infection is low.”

From Reuters

“The study's findings should not be used to conclude that a recommendation for everyone to wear masks in the community would not be effective in reducing SARS-CoV-2 infections, because the trial did not test the role of masks in source control of SARS-CoV-2 infection," the authors wrote.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by chezball

The Danish study shows that it doesn't matter if you wear a face diaper or not.

Is a face diaper the thing BabyfaceP wears?

At least two threads want you to take those bets, by the way.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

If Trump goes back in will you be one of the ones that help tear the country up? Amazing with all this going on I don't see Conservatives acting like animals all over the country. Well we know who does all the lloting and burning now. Look at it like this if Trump goes back in the looters will have a great Merry Christmas but there won't be anywhere to celebrate it. I guess you could always go to Pelosi's house and eat the $30 a gallon ice cream while vets and homeless people starve.

Come January 21, Elvis Presley, Jimmy Hoffa, and Snuffleupagus all have the same odds of being President as Donald Trump.

An invasion by an alien race from the fourth moon of Jupiter is more likely than Trump being President.

The New York Jets have better odds of winning an Emmy for Best Supporting Actor than Trump has of being President after Inauguration Day.

You have slightly better odds of regaining your sanity than Trump has of retaining the presidency.



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[marl1220]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Is a face diaper the thing BabyfaceP wears?

At least two threads want you to take those bets, by the way.

You really have to question the intelligence of someone who uses this term.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Odd that you'd choose that stat.

Per capita, here are your worst six states as of Dec 3. It's a bit different than your list, since your list is basically just a list of populous states.



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Well, some of those states seem to be on the downturn of this wave. So what does that mean?

[IgnatiusJReilly]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

If Trump goes back in will you be one of the ones that help tear the country up? Amazing with all this going on I don't see Conservatives acting like animals all over the country. Well we know who does all the lloting and burning now. Look at it like this if Trump goes back in the looters will have a great Merry Christmas but there won't be anywhere to celebrate it. I guess you could always go to Pelosi's house and eat the $30 a gallon ice cream while vets and homeless people starve.

Or have the $3 waters sold by Mar-a-lago to the secret service and paid by your tax dollars. Not a strong argument.

I don’t think rioting caused be decades of systemic racism culminating in the cold-blooded murder of people should be equated with people upset that they don’t understand how to count votes.


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[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by discostu

If only there was a better way to look at the data instead of just raw numbers.

You know, something like testing positivity rate percentages. That would be great information, I wonder why no one is thinking of that.

Well, yea. Why is no one talking about dying "with" or "from"? What about hospitalizations? The things that ACTUALLY matter. Im just going off of the narrative, which are cases.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by chezball

The Danish study shows that it doesn't matter if you wear a face diaper or not.

Masks work very little looking at data. I always go off this:

Masks may work in some capacity, but let's say you are asymptomatic and have COVID. You put on your clothes for the day, you've been inside for 4 hours. You then go out to Wal-Mart. You may have COVID on your clothes. Now, you open the freezer door and your shirt touches the handle. Or, your hand touched your shirt and now the door.

There are SO MANY ways to transfer germs. The mouth and nose is a small part of it.

Do masks help? I think they help but it's VERY little.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Masks work very little looking at data. I always go off this:

Masks may work in some capacity, but let's say you are asymptomatic and have COVID. You put on your clothes for the day, you've been inside for 4 hours. You then go out to Wal-Mart. You may have COVID on your clothes. Now, you open the freezer door and your shirt touches the handle. Or, your hand touched your shirt and now the door.

There are SO MANY ways to transfer germs. The mouth and nose is a small part of it.

Do masks help? I think they help but it's VERY little.

So the CDC is wrong?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-gui...-outside-home/

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by marl1220

So the CDC is wrong?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-gui...-outside-home/

I'm not saying they are or aren't. Is the Danish study? Or the actual data? Why are cases spiking at their highest where there are mask mandates and a massive amount of people are wearing it? Even in Alabama, 95+% of people are wearing a mask.

What I am saying is if you're so concerned about getting COVID or giving COVID to someone else, the best thing for you is to stay home.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by marl1220

So the CDC is wrong?



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-gui...-outside-home/

They haven't exactly been perfectly right that's for sure.

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