Rolling 2018 Bowman Chrome Autograph Checklist Thread - Page 26

bulljh · 09-27-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona

I’ve lost hours of sleep over it

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I know your joking and I’m with you. Though with how often this topic gets brought up and how some people express the disappointment over it, I wouldn’t be surprised.

reddragonthe · 09-27-2018, 06:35 PM

I could also be persuaded that 3600 is a better number for HTA cases in the print run. If you take out the 26 2018 bowman guys who MAY not have HTA exclusive autos you end up with that. But that would ALSO alter a bunch of the other numbers including maybe most prominently the number of base autos each signed (much lower number).

phil · 09-27-2018, 07:08 PM

Nobody has bothered to post HTA odds or it would be easy to tell.

Jaypers · 09-27-2018, 07:46 PM

Attachment 431890

HTA Odds.

phil · 09-27-2018, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

Attachment 431890

HTA Odds.

Thanks!

Yes numbers are very confusing. Choice Prospect auto color indicates 6300 cases but everything else including balancing Supers etc. with Hobby indicates closer to 4000 cases. It may in fact only be 3600 (figured from Prime Chrome Signatures Orange) which would be 10500 combined.

KhalDrogo · 09-27-2018, 08:55 PM

I posted in BST, but can anybody help me out completing the Sterling set? I need Roberts, Devers, and Robles. Will pay $10 shipped. Thanks!

reddragonthe · 09-27-2018, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phil

Thanks!

Yes numbers are very confusing. Choice Prospect auto color indicates 6300 cases but everything else including balancing Supers etc. with Hobby indicates closer to 4000 cases. It may in fact only be 3600 (figured from Prime Chrome Signatures Orange) which would be 10500 combined.

Which makes sense if you remove the 26 2018 Bowman subjects from the choice prospect autos.

brios8 · 09-27-2018, 08:57 PM

Better buy?

LUIS URIAS or LUIS GARCIA ?

Luis garcia is maybe 20% more expensive

phil · 09-27-2018, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by reddragonthe

Which makes sense if you remove the 26 2018 Bowman subjects from the choice prospect autos.

54 Choice color prospects would be in the 4200-4300 case range, which matches Super distribution reasonably well.

phil · 09-27-2018, 09:15 PM

So best evidence seems to be around 6900/4200

imbluestreak23 · 09-27-2018, 09:39 PM

We are living in an era where nearly 11,000 cases of Bowman Chrome are being made?

Crazy times indeed

phil · 09-27-2018, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

We are living in an era where nearly 11,000 cases of Bowman Chrome are being made?

Not quite as crazy as 12500 cases of 2014 Topps Chrome NFL

kyle121592 · 09-28-2018, 07:58 AM

Seeing prices around $1300 hobby $1600 HTA. How much further do they drop before taking off like last years chrome?

IamRalpho · 09-28-2018, 08:35 AM

Wait, how much are cases of this now?!

messier2 · 09-28-2018, 10:32 AM

How much is your LCS charging for a box of each version?

WalterAZ31 · 09-28-2018, 10:36 AM

the display of fail on "1st Chrome" logos never ceases to amaze me when it comes to these releases

Daulton Varsho

"1st Chrome" designation on non-autos, but nothing on his Autos

Im pretty sure Jeren Kendall's Chrome base have "1st Chrome" on them, even though he was clearly in 2018 Bowman w/Chrome as a...…….'1st chrome"

*EDIT*

Add Luis Garcia to that list, had 2017 Bowman Chrome 1st chrome, and yet for 2018 Bowman chrome, theres the ole "1st Chrome" once again

haha, geez, they are so incredibly lazy

KhalDrogo · 09-28-2018, 11:32 AM

I don’t get why Jeren Kendall is in Chrome with the same damn card as Bowman.

marlinsmaniac20 · 09-28-2018, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle121592

Seeing prices around $1300 hobby $1600 HTA. How much further do they drop before taking off like last years chrome?

I don't think these will ever spike to the same levels of 2017 BC. They are loaded with redemptions and an 80 player chrome auto checklist is very expansive, with a few too many being redemptions and intentional/unintentional SPs.

mageq1 · 09-28-2018, 11:50 AM

Sitting on 4 cases. 2 of each. Got in for a lot less than $1300 and $1600

Dbacksbaseball · 09-28-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mageq1

Sitting on 4 cases. 2 of each. Got in for a lot less than $1300 and $1600

I would not be sitting on a product with a huge--mostly bad--checklist with an 11k print run. These will drop. People are losing...bad...on this stuff.

premium1981 · 09-28-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

People are losing...bad...on this stuff.

Bad is an understatement. This is a horrendous break even at a good buy in. Factor in the inflated case prices and it gets that much worse. People are losing lots of money. I had two cases ordered and canceled due to being in between selling and buying a house. So happy right now.

cardmole · 09-28-2018, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

I would not be sitting on a product with a huge--mostly bad--checklist with an 11k print run. These will drop. People are losing...bad...on this stuff.

This is great example of a product where I can thank this forum for saving me a lot of money that can be better wasted on something decent.

HadWayTooMuch · 09-28-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cardmole

This is great example of a product where I can thank this forum for saving me a lot of money that can be better wasted on something decent.

This is where it gets interesting. What exactly defines this product as a failure aside from the BO Message Board? And what affect does BO negativity have on the product?

I'm not defending it. I've broken none of it. No clue good or bad. But I do wonder the affect these boards have.

When has Bowman Chrome been good from the standpoint of a break? I did a group break of the Bryant year and the case was terrible. And it was going for $1500-$1800 a case at the time.

What is the expectation that would make this a good product with this message board? These guys are prospects. There aren't any sure things in it.

Your thoughts?

sigmachi · 09-28-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

This is where it gets interesting. What exactly defines this product as a failure aside from the BO Message Board? And what affect does BO negativity have on the product?

I'm not defending it. I've broken none of it. No clue good or bad. But I do wonder the affect these boards have.

When has Bowman Chrome been good from the standpoint of a break? I did a group break of the Bryant year and the case was terrible. And it was going for $1500-$1800 a case at the time.

What is the expectation that would make this a good product with this message board? These guys are prospects. There aren't any sure things in it.

Your thoughts?

I've had excellent luck with it in group breaks. I'm a big fan of it this year.

Davis · 09-28-2018, 01:52 PM

Maybe this has been discussed already here, but has anyone else noticed what they did with Jeren Kendall?

They put the exact same card in both 2018 Bowman and 2018 Bowman Chrome. Same image, same number (BCP23), same everything. I'm curious if there will be 2 of every serial number card (i.e. two orange refractors numbered 5 out of 25). All the cards in Bowman Chrome are numbered BCP151 to BCP250, except the random BCP23 on the checklist.

edit..lol, i see Khaldrogo had the same thought as me today.

09-27-2018, 06:35 PM	#627
reddragonthe Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3,359 rddrgnthe	I could also be persuaded that 3600 is a better number for HTA cases in the print run. If you take out the 26 2018 bowman guys who MAY not have HTA exclusive autos you end up with that. But that would ALSO alter a bunch of the other numbers including maybe most prominently the number of base autos each signed (much lower number). __________________ I’m here for the pack odds

09-27-2018, 07:46 PM	#629
Jaypers Bowman Scout Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IL Posts: 51,651 cardboardconglomerate	Attachment 431890 HTA Odds. __________________ Impervious to baiting. Last edited by Jaypers; 10-04-2020 at 03:58 PM.

09-27-2018, 09:39 PM	#636
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,794 shortslabs	We are living in an era where nearly 11,000 cases of Bowman Chrome are being made? Crazy times indeed __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

09-28-2018, 08:35 AM	#639
IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 17,704 IamSilly	Wait, how much are cases of this now?! __________________ If you have under 25 iTrader feedback or any negative, I will ask you to send first I do not ask for much, but please leave feedback if everything goes well with our deal.

09-28-2018, 10:36 AM	#641
WalterAZ31 Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 8,268	the display of fail on "1st Chrome" logos never ceases to amaze me when it comes to these releases Daulton Varsho "1st Chrome" designation on non-autos, but nothing on his Autos Im pretty sure Jeren Kendall's Chrome base have "1st Chrome" on them, even though he was clearly in 2018 Bowman w/Chrome as a...…….'1st chrome" EDIT Add Luis Garcia to that list, had 2017 Bowman Chrome 1st chrome, and yet for 2018 Bowman chrome, theres the ole "1st Chrome" once again haha, geez, they are so incredibly lazy Last edited by WalterAZ31; 09-28-2018 at 10:41 AM.

09-27-2018, 07:08 PM	#628
phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,734	Nobody has bothered to post HTA odds or it would be easy to tell.

09-27-2018, 08:55 PM	#631
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,309	I posted in BST, but can anybody help me out completing the Sterling set? I need Roberts, Devers, and Robles. Will pay $10 shipped. Thanks!

09-27-2018, 08:57 PM	#633
brios8 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: South Padre Island, TX Posts: 6,992 brios8 brios8	Better buy? LUIS URIAS or LUIS GARCIA ? Luis garcia is maybe 20% more expensive

09-27-2018, 09:15 PM	#635
phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,734	So best evidence seems to be around 6900/4200

09-28-2018, 07:58 AM	#638
kyle121592 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: United States Posts: 3,407	Seeing prices around $1300 hobby $1600 HTA. How much further do they drop before taking off like last years chrome?

09-28-2018, 10:32 AM	#640
messier2 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 15,295	How much is your LCS charging for a box of each version?

09-28-2018, 11:32 AM	#642
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,309	I don’t get why Jeren Kendall is in Chrome with the same damn card as Bowman.

09-28-2018, 11:50 AM	#644
mageq1 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,772 mageq1	Sitting on 4 cases. 2 of each. Got in for a lot less than $1300 and $1600 __________________ Main collection: 1948 Bowman, 1957 Topps, 1961 and 1986 Fleer Vintage Basketball, and Chronology Basketball and Inscription.

09-28-2018, 01:52 PM	#650
Davis Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Denver Posts: 6,515	Maybe this has been discussed already here, but has anyone else noticed what they did with Jeren Kendall? They put the exact same card in both 2018 Bowman and 2018 Bowman Chrome. Same image, same number (BCP23), same everything. I'm curious if there will be 2 of every serial number card (i.e. two orange refractors numbered 5 out of 25). All the cards in Bowman Chrome are numbered BCP151 to BCP250, except the random BCP23 on the checklist. edit..lol, i see Khaldrogo had the same thought as me today. Last edited by Davis; 09-28-2018 at 01:54 PM.