2018 Free Agency and Offseason Thread - Page 26

Cavaliercards · 07-07-2018, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aaron2

Ditch Porter? I didn’t watch the Wizards at all this year but I thought he was a decent third guy (albeit, slightly injury prone).

Not a fan of the $26, $27, and $28 mil he is making in upcoming seasons

packman80 · 07-08-2018, 04:45 PM

Bucks sign Brook Lopez to 1 year deal at bi-annual exp of 3.4 million

yiguiri2002 · 07-08-2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Funny how everyone who complains about the Warriors ignores the fact that the reason many others teams can't compete with the Warriors is because they waste money by signing mediocre players to horrible contracts.

The Warriors, on the other hand, haven't agreed to a single bad deal since Bob Myers became GM.

Nick Young.
Shaun Livingston.
Even Iggy - although that made more sense because of the cap.

asujbl · 07-08-2018, 07:33 PM

Spurs decline to match Kyle Anderson...

Sup SA. We are Cleveland. Nice to meet you.

Andy5 · 07-08-2018, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Spurs decline to match Kyle Anderson...

Sup SA. We are Cleveland. Nice to meet you.

drobfan8 · 07-08-2018, 08:29 PM

I have zero problems with SA not matching for Kyle. Solid player but we can find 2nd rounders as good as him.

mfw13 · 07-08-2018, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Nick Young.
Shaun Livingston.
Even Iggy - although that made more sense because of the cap.

None of those are "bad" deals....Livingston & Iggy are key contributors.....Swaggy was one a 1-year MLE deal.

BAD = team trying to dump the contract 12-18 months after agreeing to it.

rhigh2390 · 07-08-2018, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Nick Young.
Shaun Livingston.
Even Iggy - although that made more sense because of the cap.

Just wondering, but how are any of those 3 players on bad contracts??

pennywise · 07-08-2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

I have zero problems with SA not matching for Kyle. Solid player but we can find 2nd rounders as good as him.

I'm actually pretty bummed that "we" didn't match. Anderson was a solid piece for SA and he's only getting better. Will be interesting to watch him presumably take on an even bigger role in Memphis.

But yeah, haven't been thrilled with any SA news since the chip in 2014, besides the Aldridge signing. Duncan retiring, Simmons walking, Kawhi injury/drama/trade, Parker, Anderson, Manu nearing the end... I'm excited about the future, but this team isn't going to be recognizable by opening night in October. Weird times if you've followed the team since the beginning of the Duncan era. We're not really used to inconsistency.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yiguiri2002 · 07-09-2018, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

None of those are "bad" deals....Livingston & Iggy are key contributors.....Swaggy was one a 1-year MLE deal.

BAD = team trying to dump the contract 12-18 months after agreeing to it.

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Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Just wondering, but how are any of those 3 players on bad contracts??

If you define "bad" as teams trying to dump the contract a year after, there are not many of those around. There are guys like Allen Crabbe or Jeff Teague who are overpaid but teams are not looking to dump their contracts.

I define bad as where the price tag is too big for the production. That happened with Swaggy last season. Same with Livingston. Iggy's case is special because they couldn't do much because of their cap situation and it was only a slight overpay; feel free to take that one off.

Also, who says they don't try to move Livingston in the next few months?

yiguiri2002 · 07-09-2018, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pennywise

I'm actually pretty bummed that "we" didn't match. Anderson was a solid piece for SA and he's only getting better. Will be interesting to watch him presumably take on an even bigger role in Memphis.

But yeah, haven't been thrilled with any SA news since the chip in 2014, besides the Aldridge signing. Duncan retiring, Simmons walking, Kawhi injury/drama/trade, Parker, Anderson, Manu nearing the end... I'm excited about the future, but this team isn't going to be recognizable by opening night in October. Weird times if you've followed the team since the beginning of the Duncan era. We're not really used to inconsistency.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't get the Anderson deal either. He's been getting better, he's entering his prime and unless he falls off a cliff, he's gonna be worth that contract and more. Even if you are rebuilding, he would be making less than 10% of the cap while being a key rotation player. Why not resigning him?

drobfan8 · 07-09-2018, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I don't get the Anderson deal either. He's been getting better, he's entering his prime and unless he falls off a cliff, he's gonna be worth that contract and more. Even if you are rebuilding, he would be making less than 10% of the cap while being a key rotation player. Why not resigning him?

Why not resign him?
Because they can move someone far cheaper in to that role.
D. White and Lonnie are probably 2 guys they want to get in to that role.

I liked Anderson but he's really not necessary.

If Kawhi was to come back Anderson's role would decrease. If we trade Kawhi for Ingram, Anderson's role would decrease.

I haven't seen too many false moves from SA over the years. I'll trust them.

alias21 · 07-09-2018, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Nick Young.
Shaun Livingston.
Even Iggy - although that made more sense because of the cap.

You realize iggy is a finals mvp and Livingston has been a huge piece....no? Ok

spurs50fan · 07-09-2018, 08:00 AM

Kyle turned into a nice facilitator and defender but I'm not sold that he fit long term. I was more upset when Simmons left. Plus given the situation the Spurs are in, I think losing Kyle is the least of the Spurs worries. Cool that folks saw his value though. Spurs did well with that 30th pick and I'm glad he got his payday. But trust.....there are some stallions in the stables

Bertans re-signs for 4-20mil

I actually think he will take a big leap next year.

yiguiri2002 · 07-09-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by alias21

You realize iggy is a finals mvp and Livingston has been a huge piece....no? Ok

Do you realize Iggy's MVP was before the contract and your 7th or 8th best player is not really a huge piece?

Siberian13 · 07-09-2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Do you realize Iggy's MVP was before the contract and your 7th or 8th best player is not really a huge piece?

Does it really matter what they are being paid at this point? They just won 3 out of 4 championships and could of had 4 straight. Maybe they know what they are doing?

Jasondr91 · 07-09-2018, 10:13 AM

Let's say it again.....we are living in the Twilight Zone! Tony Parker plays for the Hornets, Lebron is a Laker....and Zach Lavine just GOT PAID. Insanity......dude is basically Desmond Mason.....only Mason could play a whole season.

aaron2 · 07-09-2018, 10:15 AM

Rumor has it the Kings are looking at Rodney Hood....I could see them overpaying for him.

jcardstore · 07-09-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by aaron2

Rumor has it the Kings are looking at Rodney Hood....I could see them overpaying for him.

Cavs will match, I'm sure

SteveO21 · 07-09-2018, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by aaron2

Rumor has it the Kings are looking at Rodney Hood....I could see them overpaying for him.

"Someone, please take our money!!!"

elee712 · 07-09-2018, 06:31 PM

Looks like Rockets will sign Melo.

JMarchand1981 · 07-09-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elee712

Looks like Rockets will sign Melo.

There goes that chemistry

mfw13 · 07-09-2018, 06:58 PM

Rockets lose Mbah a Moute.....another step backwards.

If they do a sign & trade for Melo, that'll be another bad move.....they need defense, not offense.

the27guy · 07-09-2018, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Rockets lose Mbah a Moute.....another step backwards.

If they do a sign & trade for Melo, that'll be another bad move.....they need defense, not offense.

Think he’s getting stretched and then signing a minimum deal.

Why are you thinking S&T?

ninjacookies · 07-09-2018, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Not a fan of the $26, $27, and $28 mil he is making in upcoming seasons

For a 15/6 guy, you are absolutely right.

07-08-2018, 07:33 PM	#629
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,423 ohiosundevils	Spurs decline to match Kyle Anderson... Sup SA. We are Cleveland. Nice to meet you. __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

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drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 17,809 drobfan8 drobfan8	I have zero problems with SA not matching for Kyle. Solid player but we can find 2nd rounders as good as him. __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

07-09-2018, 10:13 AM	#642
Jasondr91 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Behind the Pokemon cards at WalMart Posts: 4,549 Jasondr91	Let's say it again.....we are living in the Twilight Zone! Tony Parker plays for the Hornets, Lebron is a Laker....and Zach Lavine just GOT PAID. Insanity......dude is basically Desmond Mason.....only Mason could play a whole season. __________________ Still collecting certain Aleksandaя "Sasha" Pavlovic items since 2004. "The United States has become a place where professional athletes and entertainers are mistaken for people of importance." - Robert Heinlein

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packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 16,981	Bucks sign Brook Lopez to 1 year deal at bi-annual exp of 3.4 million

07-09-2018, 08:00 AM	#639
spurs50fan Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 3,874	Kyle turned into a nice facilitator and defender but I'm not sold that he fit long term. I was more upset when Simmons left. Plus given the situation the Spurs are in, I think losing Kyle is the least of the Spurs worries. Cool that folks saw his value though. Spurs did well with that 30th pick and I'm glad he got his payday. But trust.....there are some stallions in the stables Bertans re-signs for 4-20mil I actually think he will take a big leap next year.

07-09-2018, 10:15 AM	#643
aaron2 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,500	Rumor has it the Kings are looking at Rodney Hood....I could see them overpaying for him.

07-09-2018, 06:31 PM	#646
elee712 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,635 elee712	Looks like Rockets will sign Melo.

07-09-2018, 06:58 PM	#648
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,256	Rockets lose Mbah a Moute.....another step backwards. If they do a sign & trade for Melo, that'll be another bad move.....they need defense, not offense.