2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by discostu

Agreed.

Since day 1, he's shown an unconscionable amount of disrespect for the gravity and history of the office.

Well, he's not getting search warrants on reporters, sending Asians to internment camps or #**!ing interns.

It's the tweets I tell ya! For the love of God THE TWEETS!

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Are you seriously comparing Trump to Stalin just because of his retweets, etc. I'm sorry there is a big difference between a leader making orders to his soldiers and what you are accusing President Trump of supposedly doing. I never said unless your the trigger man then you aren't accountable.

So then, is he accountable, at least in part?

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

What I find funny is people hate Trump because of what he says about people and then they turn right around and do the same things?? Makes no sense to me at all.

It doesn't? Hmmm.
Well I can't help with that.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

So then, is he accountable, at least in part?

I'm sorry He is not.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

It doesn't? Hmmm.
Well I can't help with that.

I don't need the help anyhow.. It's called being a hypocrite. That is why people do it and to me being a hypocrite like that makes no sense to me.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Well, he's not getting search warrants on reporters, sending Asians to internment camps or #**!ing interns.

It's the tweets I tell ya! For the love of God THE TWEETS!

Those tweets are making people do evil things...

[discostu]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

And the people that stoop to levels of calling him and his supporters all sorts of offensive names, etc. are no better then. Nice try though

I'm Congressman Joe Wilson, and I approve this message. The blatant disregard for the respect of a sitting president is downright un-American!

You all saw what happened. Stick down, gloves off, he challenged the President. Called us names, CALLED US NAMES!

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by discostu

I'm Congressman Joe Wilson, and I approve this message. The blatant disregard for the respect of a sitting president is downright un-American!

You all saw what happened. Stick down, gloves off, he challenged the President. Called us names, CALLED US NAMES!

Not sure what you are referencing,


Never mind I think I know what you are talking about when he yelled "you lied " at President Obama?

Kind of Like Pellosi ripping up the State of the Union Speech for all the world to see?

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I'm sorry He is not.

The American majority disagreed and held him accountable.

Thanks 'Murica.

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[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Well, he's not getting search warrants on reporters, sending Asians to internment camps or #**!ing interns.

It's the tweets I tell ya! For the love of God THE TWEETS!

You're a smart guy, you know there is harm done when he says something radical if its from a tweet or press conference. There's no difference.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

The American majority disagreed and held him accountable.

Thanks 'Murica.

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Sure he lost the election, because at least Biden says nice things in a nice tone, who cares what he promotes and what he and his regime want to do the country.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I don't need the help anyhow.. It's called being a hypocrite. That is why people do it and to me being a hypocrite like that makes no sense to me.

People do it because it's called being a hypocrite?

It seems we make no sense to each other.

Im not the "turn the other cheek type". I'm more of a "whats good for the goose is good for the gander" or "turnabout is fair play" type.

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[MIRRABB]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Well, he's not getting search warrants on reporters, sending Asians to internment camps or #**!ing interns.

It's the tweets I tell ya! For the love of God THE TWEETS!

I mean we could list extremely bad policies of his and be here until next week, but that doesn't matter at this point anyway.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Sure he lost the election, because at least Biden says nice things in a nice tone, who cares what he promotes and what he and his regime want to do the country.

What does he promote? What does he and his "regime" want to do to the country?

Does he plan on exposing a satanic deep state pedophilic sex trafficking ring being run out of a pizza parlor by his political opponents?

Does he plan on building a wall between us and one of our largest trade partners and making them pay for it?

Does he plan on incarcerating his political rivals?

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[irv]

Many on here.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by irv

Many on here.

Yes! This is the problem. People like that exist. There are hundreds of thousands of them, maybe millions.

You and I can make fun of them or whatever. We are not the president. The president has more responsibility than we do.

Some seem to want a president that laughs at these people and pushes them even further. Others want a president that doesn't do that. I am in the latter category.

[discostu]

It's weird, are Trump's attorneys merely tweeting out crazed election conspiracy theories or are they actually taking crazed election conspiracies to the courts?

These are the same theories and lawsuits that seek to upend a pillar of our democracy.

It's kind of a big deal.

Bringing in GOP state officials in the hope that they'll swing the election his way, totally normal. It's just a series of friendly, meet and greets I'm sure with no ulterior motive.

You can be blind, deaf and dumb to it...it doesn't make it go away.

This is his legacy, throwing his own shade over positives he could hold his hat on.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by discostu

It's weird, are Trump's attorneys merely tweeting out crazed election conspiracy theories or are they actually taking crazed election conspiracies to the courts?

These are the same theories and lawsuits that seek to upend a pillar of our democracy.

It's kind of a big deal.

Bringing in GOP state officials in the hope that they'll swing the election his way, totally normal. It's just a series of friendly, meet and greets I'm sure with no ulterior motive.

You can be blind, deaf and dumb to it...it doesn't make it go away.

This is his legacy, throwing his own shade over positives he could hold his hat on.

I am reminded of a quote from a Michigan Court of Appeals judge in her response to one of these lawsuits.

"C'mon."

- Her Honor, Judge Cynthia Stevens

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[fungi2510]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

My point is too many people make about the person not the office. The names he has been called, etc is appalling to me. I would never do that just because I don't like someone. I didn't like President Obama at all and I mean at all, but I respected the office of the President.

Unfortunately, you have only been on here for 3 years, so we cannot validate that claim. I know SO many people who make this claim are outright lying. Obama was degraded by the right at a similar clip and he didn't exactly say the things Trump has said. No scandals, no women, nothing like that, but he was black and for some that was all that was needed.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by fungi2510

Unfortunately, you have only been on here for 3 years, so we cannot validate that claim. I know SO many people who make this claim are outright lying. Obama was degraded by the right at a similar clip and he didn't exactly say the things Trump has said. No scandals, no women, nothing like that, but he was black and for some that was all that was needed.

Tried and came up short, huh?

[HeadstrongRSS]

I mean, if Trump's plan is to invite certifiers of swing states he lost and threaten them to make them overturn valid votes and make him the winner, against the will of the people and democracy, then quite simply 45 needs to be "taken out".

And the silence of his supporters proves the only thing that matters to them is winning. Doesn't matter how. Willingly, forced, legal or illegal. They're complicit in an attempted coup.

[JustRachel]

There have been ten (including Trump) one-term presidents that lost a bid for reelection. How many of the other nine are remembered fondly?

George HW Bush
Carter
Ford
Hoover
Taft
Harrison
Van Buren
John Quincy Adams
John Adams

I suppose John Adams is remembered fondly by many, but not because of his presidency. The rest? Not so much. Trump will not break the pattern.

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[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by HeadstrongRSS

I mean, if Trump's plan is to invite certifiers of swing states he lost and threaten them to make them overturn valid votes and make him the winner, against the will of the people and democracy, then quite simply 45 needs to be "taken out".

And the silence of his supporters proves the only thing that matters to them is winning. Doesn't matter how. Willingly, forced, legal or illegal. They're complicit in an attempted coup.

"If
If
If
If
If
Then Donald Trump should be assassinated."

I am terribly saddened to see so many people just jump right off the deep end. Add another one to the list.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by discostu

It's weird, are Trump's attorneys merely tweeting out crazed election conspiracy theories or are they actually taking crazed election conspiracies to the courts?

These are the same theories and lawsuits that seek to upend a pillar of our democracy.

It's kind of a big deal.

A distinction w/o a difference. No matter how "bombshell" you and the media have tried to make Trump's words over four years; none of it has stuck.

Because they're just words. Sticks and stones, ya know?

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Yes! This is the problem. People like that exist. There are hundreds of thousands of them, maybe millions.

You and I can make fun of them or whatever. We are not the president. The president has more responsibility than we do.

Some seem to want a president that laughs at these people and pushes them even further. Others want a president that doesn't do that. I am in the latter category.

There aren't only two options.

Some people have real things going on in life and have enough perspective than to let the words of a president warp their entire existence. Anyone who's that bothered by him could simply turn off the TV/news.