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[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

Which of the young guys gets their contract extended first? I think we need to lockdown Grayson as he looks like he’s a legitimate ace. But will we be able to afford extending him, Gunnar, and Adley? Probably not.

And I can see all of them wanting to test the market when they become eligible.

With old ownership - there would be no chance of multiple contract extensions for most / all / maybe any of the above. In the hands of the new Owners?

[Oriole Way]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

Maybe Webb can be the new closer? Tonight he looked really sharp!

Nah, Webb is too unreliable. Prone to giving up homers.

Tyler Wells is going to be this team's closer when he comes back from the IL.

[excel_b]

Originally Posted by Oriole Way

Nah, Webb is too unreliable. Prone to giving up homers.

Tyler Wells is going to be this team's closer when he comes back from the IL.

I second this. Wells is better off as a closer than a SP.
Means and Bradish are coming back... I don't want to see Suarez back as a RP; perhaps put Means as a long inning reliever (as he don't damage his elbow right at the start).

Urias is becoming a disappointment. He just can't hit. Mateo is fighting to keep his job by getting on bases and stealing bases. I am eager to see Connor Norby in an Orioles uniform!

[excel_b]

Grayson Rodriguez going to IL, reinstating John Means today.

Smart move by the O's to rest GRod for 15 days...

[DLub8]

Originally Posted by excel_b

I second this. Wells is better off as a closer than a SP.
Means and Bradish are coming back... I don't want to see Suarez back as a RP; perhaps put Means as a long inning reliever (as he don't damage his elbow right at the start).

Urias is becoming a disappointment. He just can't hit. Mateo is fighting to keep his job by getting on bases and stealing bases. I am eager to see Connor Norby in an Orioles uniform!

Originally Posted by excel_b

Grayson Rodriguez going to IL, reinstating John Means today.

Smart move by the O's to rest GRod for 15 days...

Urias has always been a disappointment. The love affair with him has always been a joke to me. Him and McKenna both. Mateo and the Orioles may have found a role that actually suits him and I'm fine with it short term. I think his profile will always have value regardless with his speed and defensive flexibility.

In terms of Wells, definitely belongs in the pen, but let's all just accept Kimbrel's the closer and that's fine. Yes, the two Oakland games sucked, but he's been solid otherwise. A few more implosions and you may change my mind, but think there's some recency bias with Kimbrel for sure.

Suarez has run his course in my opinion. Great story, but either he can work as a reliever or move on. I just don't see the upside at this point keeping him in the rotation. Means is going to get a shot to prove he's still John Means. If he doesn't do that, he will end up in the pen like you said.

G-Rod definitely feels like a phantom IL move to open a roster spot for means and give him a quick breather with Means and Bradish both coming back, as well Irvin and Dean throwing the ball well as of late. Hopefully that's all that move really is.

[Ianhatcher]

Headed to the game tonight so hoping for a good game.

I went Sunday and a fan about 10 rows down from us behind home plate caught 3 foul balls in a row on I think it was 4 pitches. It was nuts. None of them were straight to him they just bounced off different places and ended up going right to him. Was crazy.

[teosdesserts]

Originally Posted by DLub8

Urias has always been a disappointment. The love affair with him has always been a joke to me. Him and McKenna both. Mateo and the Orioles may have found a role that actually suits him and I'm fine with it short term. I think his profile will always have value regardless with his speed and defensive flexibility.

In terms of Wells, definitely belongs in the pen, but let's all just accept Kimbrel's the closer and that's fine. Yes, the two Oakland games sucked, but he's been solid otherwise. A few more implosions and you may change my mind, but think there's some recency bias with Kimbrel for sure.

Suarez has run his course in my opinion. Great story, but either he can work as a reliever or move on. I just don't see the upside at this point keeping him in the rotation. Means is going to get a shot to prove he's still John Means. If he doesn't do that, he will end up in the pen like you said.

G-Rod definitely feels like a phantom IL move to open a roster spot for means and give him a quick breather with Means and Bradish both coming back, as well Irvin and Dean throwing the ball well as of late. Hopefully that's all that move really is.

He has had a below average xfip for a reliever once since 2018 and his postseason numbers are even worse.... He is not a reliable option for a team with high aspirations.

[DLub8]

Originally Posted by teosdesserts

He has had a below average xfip for a reliever once since 2018 and his postseason numbers are even worse.... He is not a reliable option for a team with high aspirations.

You're right- Elias and the baseball folks are clueless. We should have 0 faith in them at all and their decision making process behind Kimbrel.

I'm so sick of this from fellow O's fans right now. This idea that Kimbrel can't continue to be the closer because of one series. He has thrown the ball well so far- I'm very aware that's a small sample size. Did we ever think that they chose him for a reason? Maybe analytics/pitching lab folks saw something they could tweak and felt good about it?

We were spoiled by how good Felix was a year ago. That's not the norm for a closer. The idea there is currently a better option on this roster is insanity. Jacob Webb was awesome last night- I don't need him to see him pitch another 9th inning this year.

[teosdesserts]

Originally Posted by DLub8

You're right- Elias and the baseball folks are clueless. We should have 0 faith in them at all and their decision making process behind Kimbrel.

I'm so sick of this from fellow O's fans right now. This idea that Kimbrel can't continue to be the closer because of one series. He has thrown the ball well so far- I'm very aware that's a small sample size. Did we ever think that they chose him for a reason? Maybe analytics/pitching lab folks saw something they could tweak and felt good about it?

We were spoiled by how good Felix was a year ago. That's not the norm for a closer. The idea there is currently a better option on this roster is insanity. Jacob Webb was awesome last night- I don't need him to see him pitch another 9th inning this year.

As a placeholder until a better option, internal or external, opens up. He seems out of gas earlier than expected which will require a replacement sooner than we would've liked. It's still the same intended path, just expedited.

[DLub8]

Originally Posted by teosdesserts

As a placeholder until a better option, internal or external, opens up. He seems out of gas earlier than expected which will require a replacement sooner than we would've liked. It's still the same intended path, just expedited.

I’m going to tell you I don’t think their intention was a short term placeholder. I just don’t. Not for $13 million. I think their intention was for him to be the guy this year so they could just install Felix next year without paying anyone else/committing significant prospect resources to acquire someone else.

Now, do I believe they’ll look for other external options now? Yes. They always felt, on paper at least, a little in the pen this year. But on this current iteration, he’s still the best option for the 9th.

[palmetto7]

As a Yankee fan I must admit that this Baltimore team is exciting to watch. Should be a great decade for you fans. Too much talent? Who do you trade? Minors appear loaded.

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[teosdesserts]

I’d be happy to never watch Kimbrel pitch for us again. At least he didn’t kill the lead off batter….

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by teosdesserts

I’d be happy to never watch Kimbrel pitch for us again. At least he didn’t kill the lead off batter….

He’s absolute garbage. That should be the last save attempt he gets.

[finfangfan]

Yeah… we don’t need an ulcer inducing closer.

[teosdesserts]

While we are airing our grievances with Kimbrel, I have to mention again that every day Mullins is stealing a lineup spot from Kjerstad or another prospect and I have no idea why.

[finfangfan]

Hayes is coming back soon too… which likely means McKenna gets the boot.

[excel_b]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

Hayes is coming back soon too… which likely means McKenna gets the boot.

No offense to Hays - he hasn’t been playing well this year. I rather have Keston start / play more. Promote Mayo and let him taste the majors. Mayo proved every single minor league levels so far.

We have like 5 AAA’s players waiting to be promoted: Mayo, Norby, Povich, McDermott and one of those relievers who were part of McDermott’s no hitter last week.

Kimbrel is a wash now. Please put him as a set up or a reliever to get his head straighten out. Can’t dump him cuz of his $13 million contract and his veteran leadership.

[finfangfan]

Yeah… I prefer Cowser in left. Hopefully he doesn’t lose too many at bats. It’s getting a bit crowded.

[excel_b]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

Yeah… I prefer Cowser in left. Hopefully he doesn’t lose too many at bats. It’s getting a bit crowded.

Wouldn’t be too surprised if Elias is fielding calls on Hays (no trade bait), Mullins (good trade bait) and Santander (great trade bait). Santander is very important not just to his decent outfield work but to his switch hitting ability. All Orioles prospects are trade baits as well… Yes, finfang, the outfield is definitely bit crowded.

[finfangfan]

Hopefully they don’t trade Cowser. His power numbers tailed off last few weeks but I think a bunch of fans like dressing up as cows and/or Milkmen that they would be upset if he left. And what player wouldn’t love the sound of moos instead of boos.

[eye4talent]

What’s keeping Mayo down on the farm? Is it the strikeouts? Otherwise, it aure seems like they could make room in the infield.


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[finfangfan]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

What’s keeping Mayo down on the farm? Is it the strikeouts? Otherwise, it aure seems like they could make room in the infield.


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After Holliday’s promotion/demotion, I don’t think they rush Mayo. The team is currently playing .667 ball so it’s not like there is an emergency. Plus, as mentioned above, things are already crowded and Hays is coming back soon.

I do think we get a trade that might clear paths for some of these young guys and/or create new opportunities for them with other organizations. It’s a good problem to have.

[teosdesserts]

Originally Posted by excel_b

Wouldn’t be too surprised if Elias is fielding calls on Hays (no trade bait), Mullins (good trade bait) and Santander (great trade bait). Santander is very important not just to his decent outfield work but to his switch hitting ability. All Orioles prospects are trade baits as well… Yes, finfang, the outfield is definitely bit crowded.

Santander is hitting .169 against RH and .317 against LH. Are we sure he should be switch hitting right now? Platoon him with Kjerstad if we refuse to take out Mullins since he had that good season 3 years ago…

[excel_b]

Originally Posted by teosdesserts

Santander is hitting .169 against RH and .317 against LH. Are we sure he should be switch hitting right now? Platoon him with Kjerstad if we refuse to take out Mullins since he had that good season 3 years ago…

Santander can be slumping and get hot in like 3 times a season... He's been like that.
I do agree with you on platooning with Keston. Keston hasn't had a chance to shine yet... Gotta give him repetitions at the plate, and let him get comfortable. Hyde hasn't done that yet.

[Oriole Way]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

What’s keeping Mayo down on the farm? Is it the strikeouts? Otherwise, it aure seems like they could make room in the infield.


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The reason is, by far, his defense.