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Old 01-22-2022, 05:32 PM   #6326
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Allen should be suspended at least 10 games.

This pretty much seals any chance the Bulls had of finishing with a top seed, coming from one of the teams poised to pass them.
Unfortunately this. Going to be a tougher road, but hope to see them healthy in the playoffs.
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Old 01-22-2022, 05:46 PM   #6327
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anyone have a slo-mo view of the allen/caruso foul that can explain how it was so bad? as i was watching it live last night and seeing the replay, i didnt see it as malicious. allen fouled him in the air to prevent a layup/dunk and a secondary swipe at the ball to prevent him from getting an and one. it didnt look like he made a swipe at his head or anything. i didnt think it looked malicious, especially to the extreme of wishing allen to get injured or being suspended for several games. i would love to hear a break down explaining your stance to the contrary and am willing to change my opinion.

Flagrant Foul Penalty 2: Unnecessary and excessive contact committed by a player against an opponent

The refs deemed it excessive. He had no reason to swipe with the right, Caruso wasn’t going to make the basket. Is preventing one basket worth yanking an airborne player to the ground with both hands? In the ref’s eyes, no. And I think the NBA will state the same thing with his inevitable fine and/or suspension.

This was way more egregious than Lebron hitting Stewart and he got spanked by the league.
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Old 01-22-2022, 05:51 PM   #6328
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anyone have a slo-mo view of the allen/caruso foul that can explain how it was so bad? as i was watching it live last night and seeing the replay, i didnt see it as malicious. allen fouled him in the air to prevent a layup/dunk and a secondary swipe at the ball to prevent him from getting an and one. it didnt look like he made a swipe at his head or anything. i didnt think it looked malicious, especially to the extreme of wishing allen to get injured or being suspended for several games. i would love to hear a break down explaining your stance to the contrary and am willing to change my opinion.
Shown multiple times. Fouled in the air... I think the second arm was the reason? Kinda looks like he "threw" him down? I don't see it any different than most fouls with guys in the air. Hard fall by Caruso for sure. Van Gundy thought not a flagrant at first. He was falling anyway. Not sure Allen did anything extra to make him land harder.

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Old 01-22-2022, 06:14 PM   #6329
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Why even question it being malicious when the perp is Grayson Allen lmfao, dude's a dirty player and always has been
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Old 01-22-2022, 06:35 PM   #6330
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anyone have a slo-mo view of the allen/caruso foul that can explain how it was so bad? as i was watching it live last night and seeing the replay, i didnt see it as malicious. allen fouled him in the air to prevent a layup/dunk and a secondary swipe at the ball to prevent him from getting an and one. it didnt look like he made a swipe at his head or anything. i didnt think it looked malicious, especially to the extreme of wishing allen to get injured or being suspended for several games. i would love to hear a break down explaining your stance to the contrary and am willing to change my opinion.
It was extremely dangerous. When Allen makes the contact on Caruso's wrist, Alex was on the air with incredible momentum potentially causing him to lose balance.

But that's not the worst part. Instead of hitting the arm hard, he ends up "grabbing" the wrist pulling it down. At that speed, it means the person is gonna crash to the floor fast no matter what they do.

The cherry on top is the second wipe at the head. It's one of the most disgusting plays I've seen. It makes Draymond and D Wade kicking people's balls like child play.
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Old 01-22-2022, 06:37 PM   #6331
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Unfortunately this. Going to be a tougher road, but hope to see them healthy in the playoffs.
This sucks man. AC is the heart of that team. Without him, Zo and Zach, they can easily fall to the 6th seed.
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Old 01-22-2022, 07:03 PM   #6333
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That is not that bad a foul. Come on now.

In saying that, making no real play at the ball should see a decent consequence.

You can foul hard without grabbing guys.
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Old 01-22-2022, 07:54 PM   #6334
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Shown multiple times. Fouled in the air... I think the second arm was the reason? Kinda looks like he "threw" him down? I don't see it any different than most fouls with guys in the air. Hard fall by Caruso for sure. Van Gundy thought not a flagrant at first. He was falling anyway. Not sure Allen did anything extra to make him land harder.
thanks for posting the video. im still not sure. it looks like hes making a play on the ball to me. any contact has the potential to cause some kind of injury. intent is important and watching it doesnt look like intent is there. i dont know all of allens history, i do know alot of people dont like him. wishing injury upon him is excessive imo.
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Old 01-22-2022, 08:27 PM   #6335
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In other news, apparently the Lakers offered THT, Nunn and a 2027 draft pick to the Pistons for Jerami Grant.

I don't know if that package gets you cash considerations much less a good player on a decent contract like Grant.
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Old 01-22-2022, 08:42 PM   #6336
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That’s a good offer for someone who clearly doesn’t care about winning and is just padding his stats to qualify for a massive extension after next season.

If Detroit could get a 1st round pick for it, they should take it and run. That 1st round pick also fits Cunningham’s timeline with the Pistons.
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Old 01-22-2022, 08:55 PM   #6337
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J. Grant came out when he left Denver and said he wanted to be the man and have the ball.

So I really doubt he would want to go to the Lakers where he'll see far less of it and also get blamed when the team loses.
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Old 01-22-2022, 09:17 PM   #6338
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In other news, apparently the Lakers offered THT, Nunn and a 2027 draft pick to the Pistons for Jerami Grant.

I don't know if that package gets you cash considerations much less a good player on a decent contract like Grant.
must mean nunn is a no go for the rest of the year. without knowing any of the cap info, i dont like the deal straight up.
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I don’t understand what the fascination with THT is… he sucks. The lakers are not getting a +asset if he if the main part of the deal. I feel like these rumors are just the lakers trying to pump up the value of their assets even though they’re negatives
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Old 01-22-2022, 11:05 PM   #6340
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Why even question it being malicious when the perp is Grayson Allen lmfao, dude's a dirty player and always has been
That is 100% an uber dick move by an uber dick guy. When you get that much arm or wrist on the first shot, you know there is no way he is making the shot, so to fire an additional shot or swing..... You just don't see these types of plays from anyone. It's only from certain guys.
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Old 01-22-2022, 11:37 PM   #6341
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15 pts, 17 rebounds for the Rookie of the year front runner, Evan Mobley.

Cavs just can't stay healthy though, with Lauri Markannen suffering a bad ankle sprain.

It's remarkable that not only have they overachieved this much, but they've done it despite a lot of major injuries.
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I heard that OKC vs CLE was nationally televised today but somehow just couldn't find the time after SFO vs GNB with the playing surface turning white from snowfall.

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This sucks man. AC is the heart of that team. Without him, Zo and Zach, they can easily fall to the 6th seed.
Definitely can see that with how tight the East is.
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J. Grant came out when he left Denver and said he wanted to be the man and have the ball.

So I really doubt he would want to go to the Lakers where he'll see far less of it and also get blamed when the team loses.
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I don’t understand what the fascination with THT is… he sucks. The lakers are not getting a +asset if he if the main part of the deal. I feel like these rumors are just the lakers trying to pump up the value of their assets even though they’re negatives
I'm not sure other teams are that interested in him but the Lakers don't have any other money they want to trade beside THT (also they should've re-signed Caruso if it was one or the other). THT/Nunn/2027 1st is a garbage package though with the pick being most interesting because the Lakers could suck in 5 years.
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looks like the league handed grayson allen a 1 game suspension.
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Tatum drops 51.
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Tatum drops 51.
Tatum sucks and Luka is 10x better...don't forget.
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anyone have a slo-mo view of the allen/caruso foul that can explain how it was so bad? as i was watching it live last night and seeing the replay, i didnt see it as malicious. allen fouled him in the air to prevent a layup/dunk and a secondary swipe at the ball to prevent him from getting an and one. it didnt look like he made a swipe at his head or anything. i didnt think it looked malicious, especially to the extreme of wishing allen to get injured or being suspended for several games. i would love to hear a break down explaining your stance to the contrary and am willing to change my opinion.
That's how I felt as well, but of course I am a biased Bucks fan.

I don't think Allen has had any dirty plays since he's been in the NBA?
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That's how I felt as well, but of course I am a biased Bucks fan.

I don't think Allen has had any dirty plays since he's been in the NBA?
yeah i dont know his history. but the league must have not thought it was to egregious to only give him a game.
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