✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by BBases31

A US1 PSA 10 Update Black finished at 9k last week and that bidding looked legitimate. Today a S2 PSA 10 Black goes for only 4300. The last S2 PSA 10 Black that sold earlier in the season went for what looked like too little as well. Maybe the Update parallels are winning out?

Anything high end will continue to be lumpy. A Bowman Blue 9.5 pitching auto just went for 9.2k. that was a 12-15k card a month ago. I wouldn't necessarily compare prices like that unless auctions were running close to parallel

I'll also add that euphoria buying has subsided now and people are "disappointed" he isn't hitting 62 home runs. Many people have recency bias and still don't comprehend how great this year was/is. They will in hindsight.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Anything high end will continue to be lumpy. A Bowman Blue 9.5 pitching auto just went for 9.2k. that was a 12-15k card a month ago. I wouldn't necessarily compare prices like that unless auctions were running close to parallel

They were only a week apart. 1-2k difference I wouldn't think anything of but double the price is drastic. I noticed alot of higher end stuff is off the insane hype peak right before the All-Star peak. A BC Blue PSA 10 sold for 12.5k this week and you got 17k for yours if I remembering right?

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I'll also add that euphoria buying has subsided now and people are "disappointed" he isn't hitting 62 home runs. Many people have recency bias and still don't comprehend how great this year was/is. They will in hindsight.

This is what I saying back around the All-Star break. I didn't think prices would rise from there unless he hit well over 50 HRs

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Anything high end will continue to be lumpy. A Bowman Blue 9.5 pitching auto just went for 9.2k. that was a 12-15k card a month ago. I wouldn't necessarily compare prices like that unless auctions were running close to parallel

I'll also add that euphoria buying has subsided now and people are "disappointed" he isn't hitting 62 home runs. Many people have recency bias and still don't comprehend how great this year was/is. They will in hindsight.

I think it's going to be a very Ohtani Christmas.

Arthur

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by BBases31

They were only a week apart. 1-2k difference I wouldn't think anything of but double the price is drastic. I noticed alot of higher end stuff is off the insane hype peak right before the All-Star peak. A BC Blue PSA 10 sold for 12.5k this week and you got 17k for yours if I remembering right?



This is what I saying back around the All-Star break. I didn't think prices would rise from there unless he hit well over 50 HRs

Yeah, I sold one for 17k at peak. I still think the 700 wins out over the US1 long term. The sample sizes are just so small right now and I doubt most people realize the pedigree difference between cards.

Also, to echo your point, unless you were drunk at margaritaville, it was clear as daylight that the in-season peak would be pre-AS break

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Yeah, I sold one for 17k at peak. I still think the 700 wins out over the US1 long term. The sample sizes are just so small right now and I doubt most people realize the pedigree difference between cards.

Also, to echo your point, unless you were drunk at margaritaville, it was clear as daylight that the in-season peak would be pre-AS break

Do you have any advice for the low to mid end raw collector (such as myself) as to what cards I should be targeting this off season (seems the wisdom is SP and SSP cards such as refractors, parallels/image variations, rainbow foils, and numbered cards)? Any predictions of when the off season lows will occur? Any predictions as to when the next peak will hit?

[michaelstcloud]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Do you have any advice for the low to mid end raw collector (such as myself) as to what cards I should be targeting this off season (seems the wisdom is SP and SSP cards such as refractors, parallels/image variations, rainbow foils, and numbered cards)? Any predictions of when the off season lows will occur? Any predictions as to when the next peak will hit?

go for numbered 700 and 150 parallels


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[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Do you have any advice for the low to mid end raw collector (such as myself) as to what cards I should be targeting this off season (seems the wisdom is SP and SSP cards such as refractors, parallels/image variations, rainbow foils, and numbered cards)? Any predictions of when the off season lows will occur? Any predictions as to when the next peak will hit?

Not sure I understand your goal, but if it's to invest in the card types that will show the most appreciation, the answer is always going to be high pedigree RC non-insert sets (Flagship, Bowman, Heritage) that are serial #d, known low PR, or autographed. Pedigree and scarcity almost always win out over time. Once you meet the pedigree/scarcity criteria, you can buy five Ford Fiestas or one Lexus. It's just preference.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Not sure I understand your goal, but if it's to invest in the card types that will show the most appreciation, the answer is always going to be high pedigree RC non-insert sets (Flagship, Bowman, Heritage) that are serial #d, known low PR, or autographed. Pedigree and scarcity almost always win out over time. Once you meet the pedigree/scarcity criteria, you can buy five Ford Fiestas or one Lexus. It's just preference.

Investing in card types that show the most appreciation is one of the goals! The other is to buy what I like, have fun, and hopefully not lose (to much) money. I am excited for the off season to come and to find some deals.

As for the other questions...what month from now until spring training do you think will be the best for price hunting? When do you predict the next peak will come?

And here are my most recent pick ups!

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Investing in card types that show the most appreciation is one of the goals! The other is to buy what I like, have fun, and hopefully not lose (to much) money. I am excited for the off season to come and to find some deals.

As for the other questions...what month from now until spring training do you think will be the best for price hunting? When do you predict the next peak will come?

And here are my most recent pick ups!

Nice pickups, Sean!

Buy what you like and you will never be disappointed and TB spoke truth...Bowman 1st - Topps - Topps Chrome + numbered/SP/SSP will always serve you well.

[tblood]

Originally Posted by hammertime

Hopefully he turns down the HRD next year.

Hopefully he is invited to the HRD next year but turns it down.


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[al3xmac10]

Originally Posted by tblood

Hopefully he is invited to the HRD next year but turns it down.


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He said immediately after this year's Home Run Derby that he would like to join again if invited, but who knows, he might change his mind...

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Investing in card types that show the most appreciation is one of the goals! The other is to buy what I like, have fun, and hopefully not lose (to much) money. I am excited for the off season to come and to find some deals.

As for the other questions...what month from now until spring training do you think will be the best for price hunting? When do you predict the next peak will come?

And here are my most recent pick ups!

I feel like spring training hype starts earlier and earlier every season. It was to the point where we didn't see much of a dip in the off season last year. To be honest (and I'd need to look further), but we may be near the low end of Ohtani pricing, at least for rarer cards. The disappointment of him slumping already has some impatient people cutting bait. I'd probably start picking some stuff now that has seen substantial dips and slowly add later in the year. Like any investment, nobody times it 100% correctly.

I just picked up that Bowman Blue auto that popped up and sold. The seller was antsy and relisted it for best offer after a deadbeat bid and accepted 7.5. That's comparatively a steal to where base is ending ($5k+). I'll gladly cash out an impatient seller with house money.

[al3xmac10]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I feel like spring training hype starts earlier and earlier every season. It was to the point where we didn't see much of a dip in the off season last year. To be honest (and I'd need to look further), but we may be near the low end of Ohtani pricing, at least for rarer cards. The disappointment of him slumping already has some impatient people cutting bait. I'd probably start picking some stuff now that has seen substantial dips and slowly add later in the year. Like any investment, nobody times it 100% correctly.

I just picked up that Bowman Blue auto that popped up and sold. The seller was antsy and relisted it for best offer after a deadbeat bid and accepted 7.5. That's comparatively a steal to where base is ending ($5k+). I'll gladly cash out an impatient seller with house money.

beautiful purchase!

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I just picked up that Bowman Blue auto that popped up and sold. The seller was antsy and relisted it for best offer after a deadbeat bid and accepted 7.5. That's comparatively a steal to where base is ending ($5k+). I'll gladly cash out an impatient seller with house money.

Definitely crack that. Centering doesn't even look off to me

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I feel like spring training hype starts earlier and earlier every season. It was to the point where we didn't see much of a dip in the off season last year. To be honest (and I'd need to look further), but we may be near the low end of Ohtani pricing, at least for rarer cards. The disappointment of him slumping already has some impatient people cutting bait. I'd probably start picking some stuff now that has seen substantial dips and slowly add later in the year. Like any investment, nobody times it 100% correctly.

I just picked up that Bowman Blue auto that popped up and sold. The seller was antsy and relisted it for best offer after a deadbeat bid and accepted 7.5. That's comparatively a steal to where base is ending ($5k+). I'll gladly cash out an impatient seller with house money.

I didn't know that True Blue was a metaphor! Congrats, what is that three at the moment?

[here2havefun]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Investing in card types that show the most appreciation is one of the goals! The other is to buy what I like, have fun, and hopefully not lose (to much) money. I am excited for the off season to come and to find some deals.

As for the other questions...what month from now until spring training do you think will be the best for price hunting? When do you predict the next peak will come?

Just after Thanksgiving, thru Christmas day.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Definitely crack that. Centering doesn't even look off to me

We'll see. The blue has always had a tough top left corner that BGS is far more lenient than PSA. Cracking these slabs always takes some stones.

Originally Posted by al3xmac10

beautiful purchase!

Thank you!!

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

I didn't know that True Blue was a metaphor! Congrats, what is that three at the moment?

Four now. I've owned a total of 8 (at one time or another) after this one, so I feel like I'm getting pretty intimate with the print run . Thanks man

[sakibomb523]

With the Home Run Derby being in Los Angeles next season it should be an easier couple days for him if he is invited. Can just commute home.

[seanrs1]

I forgot to ask when I posted these...

[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know the print run on the 2018 Heritage #17 (or the #600 action or variations like the trade, color swap, error or sho time)?

And does anyone know the print run on the 2018 Topps opening day foil parallels?

[NYRE2PECT]

Always fun to pull your guy from packs!




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[tblood]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

I forgot to ask when I posted these...

Does anyone know the print run on the 2018 Heritage #17 (or the #600 action or variations like the trade, color swap, error or sho time)?

And does anyone know the print run on the 2018 Topps opening day foil parallels?[/QUOTE]


Curious about these PR’s as well. I don’t recall seeing them anywhere


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[brios8]

another 3 strikeout game.. no chance he beats Vladdy for the HR title.

Great season, but he urgently needs a vacation ..

[jgb1219]

For anyone who missed it...Ohtani made Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People of 2021 list.

FWIW, a data point on his broader cultural impact.

"Shohei Ohtani is having an extraordinary season, one like we have never seen before. His skill on the mound, coupled with his dominance at the plate, is unparalleled throughout the major leagues.

He’s the modern-day Bambino—and yet even Babe Ruth wasn’t stealing 20-plus bases, hitting 40-plus homers and throwing 100 m.p.h. in the same season. Only Shohei can. If you were to Frankenstein every unique talent into one player, you’d get Shohei Ohtani. He has the power of Bryce Harper, the pitching of Max Scherzer and the speed of Trea Turner.

Not only is he incredible on the field, but off the field he’s a gentleman. His teammates have only good things to say about Shohei, and he is great with the media and fans too. You can tell he is a hard worker, from his improvement year to year and his vertical-jump increase to the career-year he’s put together in 2021.

Shohei has been a true joy to watch this year. I am a huge fan, and he is easily worth the price of admission. I can’t wait to see how he finishes the season."

https://time.com/collection/100-most...shohei-ohtani/

[brios8]

another 0-5 Ohtani game.. with 2 strikeouts..

seriously HE NEEDS A VACATION

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by brios8

another 0-5 Ohtani game.. with 2 strikeouts..

seriously HE NEEDS A VACATION

Lol I’m sure those trying to milk every last dime out of their “investment” are sweating bullets!