2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by rman112

Going back to this..

Would be curious to see some kind of experiment done where people are shown a headline, then later told information showing that headline to be off base. Then see if the views end up changing.

A similar sort of study was done: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...ange-our-minds

Thanks to the BO member that supplied this.

Edit: may have even been discostu or free(numbers) that posted it.

It was one of the smarter left leaning posters. Almost half as smart as me and rman, at least.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by discostu

Please post one lie.

And I'm in no way asking for restraint in posting more if you so choose.

Should be an easy ask of this is your stance.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by Clark

I bet you could find thousands of examples of this over the past 4 years. This one is terribly irresponsible imo.

Still doesn't excuse President Trump from being an insufferable obnoxious blowhard.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Clark

I died when the MSNBC guy says “play it again Alex” and the caption says “YEAH ALEX!!!”

[irv]

Originally Posted by Clark

I didn't think discostus was actually serious when he wrote that??

It's beyond me how anyone this day and age doesn't think the media is unbiased.
Certainly living in a different world than me.

I wonder how many remember this one, you know the one where CNN fabricated a story about a 15 yr old kid, Nick Sandman, all because he was wearing a MAGA hat?
Long story short, Nick, and his family's life was turned upside down until he sued CNN for $275 million. He also is in the process of suing a few other left leaning MSM sites like MSNBC, The Washington Post. The NY Times, etc.

Also sounds like, because CNN just can't help themselves and clearly the lawsuit didn't do anything to deter their fake news stories, Kyle Rittenhouse is also suing them for the same fake news B.S. as well as Joe Biden. Rittenhouse has retained the same lawyer as Nick's, but has been blocked from posting on Twitter and Facebook. Nah, no liberal bias here people. Move along now.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nati...246142010.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSkp...JgaLDKxkjP3oAw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQBqBY7fm4

Ben Shapiro PROVES that Lincoln Memorial native American is a LIAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQbqJ3c7YfU

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by irv

I didn't think discostus was actually serious when he wrote that??

It's beyond me how anyone this day and age doesn't think the media is unbiased.
Certainly living in a different world than me.

I wonder how many remember this one, you know the one where CNN fabricated a story about a 15 yr old kid, Nick Sandman, all because he was wearing a MAGA hat?
Long story short, Nick, and his family's life was turned upside down until he sued CNN for $275 million. He also is in the process of suing a few other left leaning MSM sites like MSNBC, The Washington Post. The NY Times, etc.

Also sounds like, because CNN just can't help themselves and clearly the lawsuit didn't do anything to deter their fake news stories, Kyle Rittenhouse is also suing them for the same fake news B.S. as well as Joe Biden. Rittenhouse has retained the same lawyer as Nick's, but has been blocked from posting on Twitter and Facebook. Nah, no liberal bias here people. Move along now.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nati...246142010.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSkp...JgaLDKxkjP3oAw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQBqBY7fm4

Ben Shapiro PROVES that Lincoln Memorial native American is a LIAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQbqJ3c7YfU

These are all just honest mistakes guys c'mon. Media is just trying to do their job. Trump makes it so hard for them. #medialivesmatter

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[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I bet you could find thousands of examples of this over the past 4 years. This one is terribly irresponsible imo.

Still doesn't excuse President Trump from being an insufferable obnoxious blowhard.

The edit changes nothing. The man has created a environment where we have to sift through facts, lies, jokes and fairytales. Sure he says we can’t shoot but is that really the message everyone will walk away with. Hence the danger of normalizing this cavalier hate speech.

[Onions]

Journalists should absolutely be a check on our government. I agree with that fully. The issue lies within the fact that they are only a check on one side. They carry water for the other. They have no curiosity to explore the left's failings.

Legacy media is a disaster.

I don't watch much Fox, but it is rich to see the left complain that Trump calls out "Fake News" at the same time they rail against what they call "Faux News" and discredit any news outlet that is slightly right of center. Everything is agenda driven now and the vast majority of it is leftist.

The about-face towards the POTUS that is about to occur within the MSM will be something to see. The weak minded, low information folks will eat it up.

The left goes insane over Barr supposedly running cover for Trump, but they had no problem with Eric Holder proudly proclaiming that he was Obama's "wingman" during his administration. Can you imagine if Barr were to say something like that? Yikes.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Onions

Journalists should absolutely be a check on our government. I agree with that fully. The issue lies within the fact that they are only a check on one side. They carry water for the other. They have no curiosity to explore the left's failings.

Legacy media is a disaster.

I don't watch much Fox, but it is rich to see the left complain that Trump calls out "Fake News" at the same time they rail against what they call "Faux News" and discredit any news outlet that is slightly right of center. Everything is agenda driven now and the vast majority of it is leftist.

The about-face towards the POTUS that is about to occur within the MSM will be something to see. The weak minded, low information folks will eat it up.

The left goes insane over Barr supposedly running cover for Trump, but they had no problem with Eric Holder proudly proclaiming that he was Obama's "wingman" during his administration. Can you imagine if Barr were to say something like that? Yikes.

Could you possibly paint with even more broad strokes?

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Could you possibly paint with even more broad strokes?

Not sure.

Maybe you can help me out and show me where I am wrong.

Can you imagine if Barr came out and flat out said he was Trump's "wingman"? Half of the people in this thread would go completely insane.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by irv

I didn't think discostus was actually serious when he wrote that??

It's beyond me how anyone this day and age doesn't think the media is unbiased.
Certainly living in a different world than me.

I wonder how many remember this one, you know the one where CNN fabricated a story about a 15 yr old kid, Nick Sandman, all because he was wearing a MAGA hat?
Long story short, Nick, and his family's life was turned upside down until he sued CNN for $275 million. He also is in the process of suing a few other left leaning MSM sites like MSNBC, The Washington Post. The NY Times, etc.

Also sounds like, because CNN just can't help themselves and clearly the lawsuit didn't do anything to deter their fake news stories, Kyle Rittenhouse is also suing them for the same fake news B.S. as well as Joe Biden. Rittenhouse has retained the same lawyer as Nick's, but has been blocked from posting on Twitter and Facebook. Nah, no liberal bias here people. Move along now.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nati...246142010.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSkp...JgaLDKxkjP3oAw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQBqBY7fm4

Ben Shapiro PROVES that Lincoln Memorial native American is a LIAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQbqJ3c7YfU

Rittenhouse - a murderer that the Right just loves to paint as a victim...

Disgusting to even utter this a$$hats name.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by Onions

Not sure.

Maybe you can help me out and show me where I am wrong.

Can you imagine if Barr came out and flat out said he was Trump's "wingman"? Half of the people in this thread would go completely insane.

Barr's actions speak louder than any words.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

Barr's actions speak louder than any words.

Mark one down for no problem with Holder overtly running cover for Obama.

Much of the right is not real happy with Barr. Was the left ever upset with Holder?

[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by Onions

Mark one down for no problem with Holder overtly running cover for Obama.

Much of the right is not real happy with Barr. Was the left ever upset with Holder?

I would think members of a president’s cabinet are considered their wing people

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by Onions

Mark one down for no problem with Holder overtly running cover for Obama.

Much of the right is not real happy with Barr. Was the left ever upset with Holder?

The rights hard-on's for Hillary and Obama, 4 years after they left is truly amazing.
Holder's actions as AG do not even hold a candle to what Barr has done - not even close my friend.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Zedlaw

I would think members of a president’s cabinet are considered their wing people

Exactly, but why the different treatment from Obama's cabinet to Trump? Those that serve at the Presidents will should be of no surprise to anyone. The difference of the media coverage is striking. That is the point.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

The rights hard-on's for Hillary and Obama, 4 years after they left is truly amazing.
Holder's actions as AG do not even hold a candle to what Barr has done - not even close my friend.

*Citation needed. Gonna have to show your work on this one.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Onions

Exactly, but why the different treatment from Obama's cabinet to Trump? Those that serve at the Presidents will should be of no surprise to anyone. The difference of the media coverage is striking. That is the point.

Conflating the two administrations is mistake #1

[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by Onions

Exactly, but why the different treatment from Obama's cabinet to Trump? Those that serve at the Presidents will should be of no surprise to anyone. The difference of the media coverage is striking. That is the point.

Why would you expect anything different when a minority party is in charge? The overall platform is unpopular by definition.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Conflating the two administrations is mistake #1

We cannot compare the media's treatment between administrations?

I guess we can play pretend if you want. Mistake #2.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

Rittenhouse - a murderer that the Right just loves to paint as a victim...

Disgusting to even utter this a$$hats name.

We'll see how it plays out?
https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/kyle-r...defense-claim/

Any words or thoughts on the fake news stories about Nick Sandman, or are you not disputing the media is biased and corrupt?

[Ty Hope]

Biden’s cancer research charity takes in millions and uses ZERO towards cancer research:

https://www.google.co.jp/amp/s/nypos...ch-report/amp/

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by irv

We'll see how it plays out?
https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/kyle-r...defense-claim/

Any words or thoughts on the fake news stories about Nick Sandman, or are you not disputing the media is biased and corrupt?

What is your address - we will send you tin foil for new hats.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Onions

We cannot compare the media's treatment between administrations?

I guess we can play pretend if you want. Mistake #2.

The media's treatment of each administration has to be looked at in relation to the actions of each administration individually.
If a U.S. President wants to act like an authoritarian leader he'll get scrutinized accordingly.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

The media's treatment of each administration has to be looked at in relation to the actions of each administration individually.
If a U.S. President wants to act like an authoritarian leader he'll get scrutinized accordingly.

These things were happening from the media's end before Trump was even the President.