The Official NBA Regular Season Thread—-20/21 Edition

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Net Rating
Jokic +7.6
Lebron +9.4
Giannis +10.5
Durant +10.5
Embiid +11.3

Lol

Is it just me or does it feel like Jokic has played more games than everyone else on this list has combined?

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by k13

Win Shares
1. Nikola Jokić • DEN 14.2
2. Rudy Gobert • UTA 10.3
3. Giannis Antetokounmpo • MIL 9.2
4. Zion Williamson • NOP 8.7
5. Jimmy Butler • MIA 8.5
6. Damian Lillard • POR 8.4
7. Kawhi Leonard • LAC 8.1
8. Chris Paul • PHO 8.1
9. Stephen Curry • GSW 8.1
10. Bam Adebayo • MIA 8.1
11. Joel Embiid • PHI 8.1

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Net Rating is entirely dependent on whether you're on a winning team or not.

Gobert > Embiid
Joe Ingles > Durant
Conley > Everyone

Career PER:

9. CP3 24.86
8. Kevin Durant 25.26
7. Bob Pettit 25.34
6*. BOBAN! 25.90



What's really hood?

[MrMasterpiece]

The Knicks are playing some damn good ball. Does anybody think Julius Randle can make third team All-NBA? His stats are very comparable to other star forwards.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

Lol

Is it just me or does it feel like Jokic has played more games than everyone else on this list has combined?

He has.. and the takeaway on this has a lot to do with defining what we are arguing here.

If its a discussion of who should be MVP, its gotta be Jokic. He’s been the most consistent, played the most games, therefore had the most overall impact.

If the discussion is about who is the best player, when fully healthy, there’s not a guy on that list i wouldnt take over Jokic, and only Embiid is debatable.

That being said, there is nothing wrong with being in the discussion for the top 5 players on the planet, and its a testament to how great Jokic has played this season.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by tjforce

He has.. and the takeaway on this has a lot to do with defining what we are arguing here.

If its a discussion of who should be MVP, its gotta be Jokic. He’s been the most consistent, played the most games, therefore had the most overall impact.

If the discussion is about who is the best player, when fully healthy, there’s not a guy on that list i wouldnt take over Jokic, and only Embiid is debatable.

That being said, there is nothing wrong with being in the discussion for the top 5 players on the planet, and its a testament to how great Jokic has played this season.

A healthy, driven Embiid is a force that is probably best in the NBA. But no such version exists ... he's always broken and as the last two weeks have shown, he can mail in games when he doesn't care. Once the MVP was a lock for Jokic, he stopped caring and hasn't done #*(%. Watching him have games lately where he goes 7/18 and 4/13 without his FT's (against lousy centers and teams) makes it clear he's not always there.

[Dame]

Originally Posted by MrMasterpiece

The Knicks are playing some damn good ball. Does anybody think Julius Randle can make third team All-NBA? His stats are very comparable to other star forwards.

I would be surprised if he doesn’t make it. Dont see anyone more deserving of that spot, though the voters may put Zion in.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

A healthy, driven Embiid is a force that is probably best in the NBA. But no such version exists ... he's always broken and as the last two weeks have shown, he can mail in games when he doesn't care. Once the MVP was a lock for Jokic, he stopped caring and hasn't done #*(%. Watching him have games lately where he goes 7/18 and 4/13 without his FT's (against lousy centers and teams) makes it clear he's not always there.

I’ve seen the exact same thing and noticed he let off the gas once the MVP was in the bag for Jokic. Which I’m fine with if it’s for playoff preservation reasons, but I fully expect him to smash everyone come playoff time.

[cinnakaok]

Originally Posted by MrMasterpiece

The Knicks are playing some damn good ball. Does anybody think Julius Randle can make third team All-NBA? His stats are very comparable to other star forwards.

I wouldn’t be shocked if he made second team. I don’t think it will happen but I wouldn’t be shocked.

[mfw13]

One player who should get some MVP votes but won't because he's not a stat god is Chris Paul.....he's the main reason that the Suns are at the top of the Western Conference.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

A healthy, driven Embiid is a force that is probably best in the NBA. But no such version exists ... he's always broken and as the last two weeks have shown, he can mail in games when he doesn't care. Once the MVP was a lock for Jokic, he stopped caring and hasn't done #*(%. Watching him have games lately where he goes 7/18 and 4/13 without his FT's (against lousy centers and teams) makes it clear he's not always there.

Which is why I mentioned he's debatable. I really wouldn't take issue with either side of the argument. Both players are dominant in different ways, yet don't have the high stakes resume that LeBron and KD have, or the now 3 years of regular season dominance that Giannis has.

[kd the sniper]

This is gonna be another good one.. Nets on tv, pels on phone

[bigjbasketball]

Nets-Bucks already shaping up for another great game after the 1st. Nice block by KD on Giannis to end the quarter...I’m hoping this one goes to OT.

[packerfan4200]

Giannis just took it to Blake there haha. 18 points, 9:25 remaining in 2nd...

[kd the sniper]

Has a playoff feel to it

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Nets-Bucks already shaping up for another great game after the 1st. Nice block by KD on Giannis to end the quarter...I’m hoping this one goes to OT.

Originally Posted by packerfan4200

Giannis just took it to Blake there haha. 18 points, 9:25 remaining in 2nd...

Originally Posted by kd the sniper

Has a playoff feel to it

Just came to say all of this.... Feels like basketball that matters!

[kd the sniper]

This is another good one..Can't wait for the playoffs!!

[rhigh2390]

Nets are going to be in big trouble when they play Milwaukee in the playoffs.

Every time down the floor, Milwaukee is exposing the Nets zero-interior defense.

[kd the sniper]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Nets are going to be in big trouble when they play Milwaukee in the playoffs.

I think they will be alright..

[kd the sniper]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Nets are going to be in big trouble when they play Milwaukee in the playoffs.

Definitely gonna be a battle tho

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by kd the sniper

I think they will be alright..

What makes you think that? Genuinely curious because I don't see how Brooklyn can possibly get enough stops to beat them in a series.

[bigjbasketball]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

What makes you think that? Genuinely curious because I don't see how Brooklyn can possibly get enough stops to beat them in a series.

The Nets are still missing a former MVP still in his prime, and one of the most gifted scorers in modern NBA history. I think they’ll be OK in the playoffs...as long as they’re healthy.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Nets are going to be in big trouble when they play Milwaukee in the playoffs.

Every time down the floor, Milwaukee is exposing the Nets zero-interior defense.

This is all contingent on the return of strip club patron.

[kd the sniper]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

What makes you think that? Genuinely curious because I don't see how Brooklyn can possibly get enough stops to beat them in a series.

They might not get all the stops, but with harden back, the floor general, I don't think bucks can out gun them.

[yiguiri2002]

Did I miss something? Why didn't the Nets foul after the DDV rebound? Why didn't they tried for a quick 3?

[escapegoat]

nets effort was terrible the last ~15ish secs, only 2 score game.